Well, it was audio recorded by a Mormon who was about to leave the church. Mormons who go through the temple make a pledge not to reveal details of the ceremony (this used to accompany penalties that would go along with revealing these secrets like tearing out the tongue by the roots, or slitting the throat, or disembowelment, but those were removed in 1990), so the details aren’t coming from active Mormons.
because you haven’t been there yet. (or at least the endowment) if you read what Boyd K. Packer wrote on this then you know that you CAN discuss quite a lot of it. if you had been through the endowment then you would know which specific things you aren’t to discuss outside the temple.
Because they made him swear that if he tells, they will cut his throat and pull out his guts. At least that is what they used to swear to until this “Divinely Endowed” ritual was heavily changed so that it wouldn’t freak out today’s wussy participants.
lol … another way to put it
Now let’s be fair. Mormons aren’t allowed to talk about the temple ceremony even if everyone already knows what goes on in there or not. However, Zerinus also said that we shouldn’t trust information on anti-Mormon sites, but anti-Mormon sites do offer legitimate info like the temple ceremony tape recording. Zerinus shouldn’t start claiming that there is a conspiracy spreading lies about the LDS church. Out of all the websites I have visited that criticize Mormonism, I have never found one that offered blatantly false information.
You are right. But the real question is the credibility of mormonism and the fact that mormonism condemns every other Christian religion as “apostate” with particular emphasis on the Catholic Church as “The Great and Abominable Church”. This from a group who were founded by a cheap upstate New York con-artist who defrauded his neighbors and seduced their wives, dying a criminal’s death at the hands of a group of outraged citizens. This thimble -rigger stole the rituals of freemasonry and fobbed it off on his gullible marks as being “sent down from Heaven” and bound them to deadly and traitorous oaths. It is important, I think, to ensure that this charade is made generally known, so that the inquirer can at least be aware of what awaits him/her in the bowels of mormon “temples.”
Why does anyone care what Mormons do in their “temples.” The LDS post their teaching online. Their doctrines are easily refuted using logic alone. Their historical claims have no merit. They are a conspiracy driven organization. There is no reasoning with most of them.
I admit no such thing. When you criticise someone else’s theology, you do so on the basis of the correctness of your own theology. Therefore the only way that that other person can defend his own theological position is by demonstrating the error in your theological position. For example, when Catholics criticise the LDS doctrine of the Godhead or Trinity, you do so on the basis of the assumed correctness of your own Trinitarian theology.Therefore the only way that a Mormon can defend himself against that criticism is by exposing the errors of your Trinitarian theology. That is not anti-Catholicism.
zerinus
I have been there, and I don’t discuss any part of the temple ceremony with outsiders. I don’t care what anybody has said. There is plenty of subject matter about Mormonism to be discussed that there is no need to discuss what takes place in the temple.
Pseudo-freemasonry, done by people in funny outfits. End of story. No real need to discuss the false cult of mormonism.
You should. You said you can’t trust ex Mormon accounts. Clearly an audio tape is trustworthy evidence.
Fine, excuse me for misunderstanding the posts earlier in this thread. In that case by de facto your’e an anti-Catholic and I among others on here are anti-Mormon, because our views conflict. Let’s all just keep reasoning and debating with eachother.
Okay. And as I said, feel free to point out “flaws” in the Catholic Church on these forums. After all the flaws get refuted then maybe afterwards youll finally realize the Catholic Church is the True Church.
Yup, that’s what I call being an “oxymormon.” Some Mormons deny or misrepresent Mormon teachings because they’re simply unaware of them. Others, like Zerinus dude, are obviously uncomfortable with some teachings (and I can certainly understand that) and try to rationalize them by denying that they are teachings at all. But, if a belief is taught in Gospel Principles, if a whole chapter of the manual (like chapter 47 - Exaltation) is dedicated to teaching it, and if it even appears on the official LDS website as a Mormon teaching, then it IS an LDS teaching (DUH!) There is simply NO way to deny the fact through personal interpretation, or any other means, without taking a position that is CONTRARY to official LDS teachings. If such a position is taken, one is then stating disagreement with the both the traditional (in this instance) and current teachings of the church; and this is, of course, apostasy. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it does indicate that perhaps the individual should objectively review the entire set of dogmata and reassess his or her level of comfort with the integrity of the faith.
So, your efforts here are an attempt to proseltize Catholics?
To be honest, the more I hang out here, the more I am convinced that the Catholic church could NOT be the true church. The only prosletizing that happens around here is negative. Hose?
