Where in the Bible does it teach: "Only the Bible"?

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Tobylue

I want to thank you for the information.

I would enjoy more information about the Orthodox and Roman lists.

Can you give me more help. Do you know why there is a difference?

Again, thank you for the help.
 
Jim Baur:
Where in our Holy Scriptures does it teach: “Only the Bible”?

Also, how did we get the Bible if we say: “Only the Bible”?
The verse is found right between “By faith alone” and “Peter is not the Rock.” Just look–I’m sure you’ll find it.

We have the Bible because a bunch of fallible men have been arguing about it for centuries, and never came to an agreement. Still, you can depend on it–just as surely as you can depend on a perfectly constructed castle set on top of quicksand.

Peace.
John
 
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buffalo:
Ask them where the word bible appears in the bible.
Let me ask you this question. Where is the doctrine of sola scriptura in the Bible? Don’t bother cause you won’t find it. All most all Protestants and Fundamentalists will agree that the Bible alone is the authority in matters of Faith. As for Catholics we believe in Sacred Tradition as well as Sacred Scripture. The Bible tells us that we need more than the Bible itself. John 21:25 says,“not everything Jesus said and did is recorded in Scripture.” Now, do we sit back and say if it is not in the Bible then it never happened? That is where Sacred Tradition comes into play.

The Bible also states that Sacred traditon is to be followed alongside Sacred Scripture (2 Thess 2:15, 3:6).

There are a lot of passages in the Bible that proves “Sola Scriptura” is not to be practiced but for some reason Protestants still believe in it.

Protestants also believe that all you do not need a Church to be in relationship with God. They do that personnal relationship thing. 1 Tim 3:15 states, “you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” Sounds to me that you need more than just the Bible.

To answer the question “Only the Bible?” In nowhere will you find that you only need the Bible as the sole rule of Faith. That is what Protestnats want you to believe.
 
I want to thank you for the information.
I would enjoy more information about the Orthodox and Roman lists.
Can you give me more help. Do you know why there is a difference?
Again, thank you for the help.
Sorry but I really dont know. Maybe that question, as to the difference between Orthodox and Roman, can be directed to Ask an Apologist or sombody here with more knowledge than me can answer that. I seldom hear about Orthodox Canon and how they arrived at their books. As a matter of fact I myself have never seen an Orthodox Bible. I have read and seen many Protestant bibles and different Catholic Bibles, but never an Orthodox Bible. Maybe its because of the very small presence of Orthodox in the city where I live.
 
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Elzee:
What is ‘LXX’?
The Septuagint, which is the Greek Translation of the Old Testament. It took 70 Greek Scholars to translate it, hence the name.

This is also the cause of the debate of the Apochrypha books. St. Jerome, when debating the Canon of the OT, didn’t feel the seven books should be included, since there were only Greek Translations of them, none in Hebrew. He ended up giving in on this, but Martin Luther took up the ball, using St. Jerome’s protests, but mainly because it didn’t agree with so many of his new doctrines.

The only problem, is that the Dead Sea Scrolls included one of the Apochrypha Books in the original Hebrew language.

NotWorthy
 
1 TIMOTHY 3 :15= But if I should be delayed, you should know how to
behave in the household of God, which is the church of the
living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.
 
And the “church” is the beleivers - but thats a circular arguement - where does the Bible say “Make up anything you want” ?

I know, Peter was the first Pope - I forgot, basicaly it all hangs on the “fact” that Peter was the first Pope, which is historicaly and biblicaly inaccurate.
 
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ChristFollower:
And the “church” is the beleivers - but thats a circular arguement - where does the Bible say “Make up anything you want” ?

I know, Peter was the first Pope - I forgot, basicaly it all hangs on the “fact” that Peter was the first Pope, which is historicaly and biblicaly inaccurate.
What history and bible are you reading? It has been shown many times in these forums that these are accurate facts both historically and by the bible. Do a search and you will find them and then you may become a full Christ Follower.
 
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ChristFollower:
And the “church” is the beleivers - but thats a circular arguement - where does the Bible say “Make up anything you want” ?

I know, Peter was the first Pope - I forgot, basicaly it all hangs on the “fact” that Peter was the first Pope, which is historicaly and biblicaly inaccurate.
OK, you know you are on a Catholic Website. You know you just disputed a doctrine that is essential to the Catholic Faith. If you want to be treated even halfway with respect, you might find it helpful (to your cause) if you just included at least a little bit of fact in this post that backs up your statement.

You know, like maybe the “Petra/Petros” argument, or maybe “Peter’s Faith”, or “Jesus is the Rock”. I know, how about the “Get behind me, Satan” argument! Then there’s always the “Peter was never in Rome” argument. It’s always good for a few laughs.

Peace in Christ,

NotWorthy
 
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ChristFollower:
And the “church” is the beleivers - but thats a circular arguement - where does the Bible say “Make up anything you want” ?

I know, Peter was the first Pope - I forgot, basicaly it all hangs on the “fact” that Peter was the first Pope, which is historicaly and biblicaly inaccurate.
If you believe that, you are not in good company, historically. I mean, for Pete’s sake (get it?), find out what the early Fathers–any of the ones who bothered to write about Peter and his successors–said about how we identify the Church.
It turns out, we arent defining it as anything we want, but the same way THEY did, which happens to be both historical and Scriptural.

Peace.
John

BTW, there ain’t nothing more circular than trying to ID the Bible without Tradition.
 
john ennis:
The verse is found right between “By faith alone” and “Peter is not the Rock.” Just look–I’m sure you’ll find it.

We have the Bible because a bunch of fallible men have been arguing about it for centuries, and never came to an agreement. Still, you can depend on it–just as surely as you can depend on a perfectly constructed castle set on top of quicksand.

Peace.
John
Umm, why the sarcasm? :confused:
 
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johnpaullover:
Umm, why the sarcasm? :confused:
I think he’s trying to convey how unsound the “Only the Bible” theory is (and doing a marvelous job at it). The irony of “a foundation built on sand” I think adequately described the Protestant position on “By Faith Alone”, “Peter was not the Pope”, and “Only the Bible”.

I think the only problem with john ennis’s post is that he forgot to include that oldie but goodie, “Once Saved, Always Saved”!

NotWorthy
 
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NotWorthy:
I think he’s trying to convey how unsound the “Only the Bible” theory is (and doing a marvelous job at it). The irony of “a foundation built on sand” I think adequately described the Protestant position on “By Faith Alone”, “Peter was not the Pope”, and “Only the Bible”.

I think the only problem with john ennis’s post is that he forgot to include that oldie but goodie, “Once Saved, Always Saved”!

NotWorthy
Thanks. Yes, I only intended for the irony to highlight the nonexistence of biblical support for these, and that a proper perspective of Sola Scriptura would be to think of it as being as unfounded as Sola Fide and Peter’s not being the Rock.

Didn’t intend to convey irritation or impatience, Johnpaullover.

Peace.
John
 
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Malachi4U:
By the way it’s not the Bible only, it’s the King James Version ONLY!
Hahahahaha, I’m supposed to believe that until 1611 all Bibles were incorrect? Bwahahahahahahaha! I’ll stick with the decision of the Church founded by Christ, not by some petty human king.
 
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vrummage:
James White nor any other protestant apologist can successfully defend Sola Scriptura because it is a self refuting argument. If the Bible alone is the sole rule of faith and morals then the Bible must state that it is the sole rule of faith and morals because the proposition necessarily requires it. Since the Bible nowhere states that it is the sole rule of faith and morals the very doctrine of Sola Scriptura shows itself to be unbiblical (how ironic!). Therefore Sola Scriptura cannot be the “sole rule of faith” because there is at least one rule of faith that is not found in scripture- i.e. Sola Scriptura itself. Once that is admitted the entire proposition collapses like a house of cards since it violates a fundamental law of logic - the law of non-contradiction that states that no thing can both be and not be at the same time.
The reasoning is simple, but people won’t say it for fear of offending someone else. By saying “Bible alone” people are able to convince themselves that they do not need the Pope. They can be pope’s unto themselves. They do not like the idea of someone in authority over what they believe the Bible to say. And apparently it matters not a whit to them that Christ was the one who instituted it. Sadly, our separated brothers and sisters in Christ are reaping what they have sown, namely, 31,000 different Protestant denominations all with different theology.
 
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ChristFollower:
where does the Bible say “Make up anything you want” ?
Interesting question you may want to ask yourself regarding “Sola Scriptura.” Made up, and 100% NOT in the Bible.
 
Will Pick said:
1 TIMOTHY 3 :15= But if I should be delayed, you should know how to
behave in the household of God, which is the church of the
living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.

Excellent point Will, and we all know which Church is the household of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth (which is Jesus), ever present in the Blessed Sacrament. In fact, His Real Presence, ever present in the House of God, still is today, just as when He walked with them on the road and revealved Himself to them in the Breaking of the Bread (that is when they recognized HIM. Remember, He revealed all of Scripture to them(which is the Old Testament, He took them all about how it referred to HIM.) He sent the Holy Spirit to His Church, (those who in Acts of the Apostles(our first Bishops and Priests), Acts says, were praying with His Blessed Mother, and some of the other women, which we still do now. We Catholics are the People of God, the Body of Christ(He is the Head), and the temples of the Holy Spirit. We will be saved, are saved, and are being saved, by His grace alone. The Bible, which we compiled and wrote down was around long before some King named James deceided to write his version. The Bible alone has never been what Jesus taught,* He* is the Good News!!
 
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