Where not using contraception can kill

[bella_mama]

The Pill does not destroy fertilized eggs; it prevents ovulation so that eggs are not released in the first place.

Non-hormonal solutions: If conception brings with it a threat to the mother’s life, then a permanent sterilization (i.e., tubal ligation for the woman or vasectomy for the man) would be the most effective. If conception would be desirable and medically approved in the future, then a non-hormonal copper IUD (i.e., Paragard) would be most effective. Also available: diaphragms, cervical caps, spermicides, etc.

In order to subscribe to the Church’s teachings on birth control and being open to life, none of these suggestions is condoned. If a woman is willing to risk her life by relying on Natural Family Planning alone, then she should be mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually prepared for the consequences.

Women who suffer from conditions such as PCOS generally opt for hormonal birth control methods, such as the Pill, the patch and the ring. However, the patch contains about 60% more estrogen than is necessary to manage fertility and it dramatically increases the risk of cardiovascular problems that are associated with hormonal birth control. At present, the ring is the lowest-dose combined hormonal birth control method on the market.

Without knowing what your specific medical condition is, it’s difficult for anyone to offer you specific solutions. I, for one, do not believe that God expects women to lay down their lives on the altar of obedience to Church teachings in order to have a satisfying sexual relationship with their husbands.

Speak with your priest. See what he says.

capt

Whoa there Capt!!
First of all, you are correct in that the Pill doesn’t destroy eggs…it destroys embryos (aka babies). The pill works in several ways…first, it attempts to prevent ovulation, then, it alters the lining of the uterus to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, thus, causing what is called a “chemical abotion”…it’s effect is the same as the “morning after pill”. Now, as far as IUD’s of any sort (Paraguard, etc), they prevent implanatation of a fertilized egg by irritating the lining of the uterus and also by causing a low-grade infection that assists in the altering of cervical mucous to help prevent sperm from getting through. While one might say since there is no “chemicals” involved, this device doesn’t cause “chemical abortions”, however, it’s main intent is to keep a fertilized egg from implanting, so by using one, it is causing a “direct abortion”. After 13 years working in women’s healthcare(in a birthing unit and OB’s office), I got my information straight from a Board-Certified OB/GYN and the pharmaceutical reps that visit her office promoting their contraceptive devices. While I no longer work in that field, having left it 2 years ago, I seriously doubt that those methods of contraception have changed in how they work and what they do since 2006. I’m a little surprised you would even post your obvious approval of contraception on here, especially those that are know abortifacients…do you work for Ortho pharmaceuticals or Planned Parenthood and do either give you a “kickback”??

 

[captbackfire]

Whoa there Capt!!
First of all, you are correct in that the Pill doesn’t destroy eggs…it destroys embryos (aka babies). The pill works in several ways…first, it attempts to prevent ovulation, then, it alters the lining of the uterus to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, thus, causing what is called a “chemical abotion”…it’s effect is the same as the “morning after pill”. Now, as far as IUD’s of any sort (Paraguard, etc), they prevent implanatation of a fertilized egg by irritating the lining of the uterus and also by causing a low-grade infection that assists in the altering of cervical mucous to help prevent sperm from getting through. While one might say since there is no “chemicals” involved, this device doesn’t cause “chemical abortions”, however, it’s main intent is to keep a fertilized egg from implanting, so by using one, it is causing a “direct abortion”. After 13 years working in women’s healthcare(in a birthing unit and OB’s office), I got my information straight from a Board-Certified OB/GYN and the pharmaceutical reps that visit her office promoting their contraceptive devices. While I no longer work in that field, having left it 2 years ago, I seriously doubt that those methods of contraception have changed in how they work and what they do since 2006. I’m a little surprised you would even post your obvious approval of contraception on here, especially those that are know abortifacients…do you work for Ortho pharmaceuticals or Planned Parenthood and do either give you a “kickback”??

“HC (the pill, the patch, and the vaginal ring) all contain a small amount of synthetic estrogen and progestin hormones. These hormones work to inhibit the body’s natural cyclical hormones to prevent pregnancy. Pregnancy is prevented by a combination of factors. The HC usually stops the body from releasing an egg from the ovary. HC also changes the cervical mucus to make it difficult for the sperm to find an egg. HC can also prevent pregnancy by making the lining of the womb inhospitable for implantation.”* ~ WebMD

So, yes, you are correct, but the primary function of hormonal birth control with regard to these methods is to stop the body from ovulating.

This really is a moot debate. No devout Catholic would ever risk using hormonal birth control methods or barrier methods.

I do have some experience with various forms of birth control, including Natural Family Planning which gifted me with my first spontaneous abortion. I employed several types of birth control methods with varying degrees of success over my 35 years of fertility I have the chutzpah to post my approval, my very strong approval, of contraception here because I am not a devout Catholic. I have a child who works in the field of gynecology and we discuss these matters all the time. That should demystify the subject somewhat.

May I ask: because I have offered information with which you disagree and about which you are apparently incensed, why are you compelled to propose the scenario that I am perhaps a drug rep or that I work for Planned Parenthood or, even more insulting, that I am getting some kind of “kickback” because I favor artificial birth control? We are each entitled to live and shape the lives that God gave us and there simply is no room for this kind of offensive presumption.

Disagree with me: fine. Correct me or add to my post: fine. Provide a link to a reputable website that can give me more current information: fine. Libel me in a public forum? That’s unacceptable and petty.

capt

 

[mdr]

You show me where I can find an old, married couple who have been together with no separation and no infidelity for, say, 50 years of absolute and complete abstinence, and I will be happy to ask them. I don’t trust I’ll get a frank answer, but I’d be happy to ask!

capt

Capt,

First of all, I’m so very sorry for your recent loss. Prayers for your comfort and strength go with you.

Second, I have a posthumous example pretty close to the above. My oldest aunt & uncle are now deceased, but they had twin beds for as long as I knew them. When their only child was born, my aunt almost died, and the doctor told them she could not risk having another child.

This was 1930 in rural Acadiana, cattle ranchers and rice farmers: birth control = separate beds. (Isn’t it interesting that 1930, the year in which the first major Christian denomination began to allow limited use of contraception for married couples in serious circumstances, was the same year in which the first research about women’s fertility cycles was published?)

They were a devoted couple to the end. When my aunt became bedridden and virtually paralyzed, my uncle and cousin learned to do the daily, non-strenuous home-health care that she needed, including turning her over every 2 hours around the clock to prevent bedsores. Uncle was so proud to show us that he had even learned how to maintain her feeding tube (we smiled while thinking “eew”). He was the sweetest man!

Sadly, Uncle died first - they were both well into their 80’s. Aunt wasn’t able to talk much, and nobody was sure how cognizant she was of what went on around her, but our cousin reported that after her dad passed away, her mom stopped calling for him. She did live a couple of years after that.

And I guess that would’ve been about 50 years’ duration, possibly longer. I don’t remember what year Aunt became ill, but it would’ve been mid-to-late 1980’s. They were good people.

God bless-

 

[captbackfire]

mdr,

Thanks for the condolences; much appreciated.

The more I think about this whole thing, the more it looks to me like sex is the wrench in the works. I have wondered more than once about the necessity of sex to keep the species going and how it is the most overrated activity among humans. It’s unfortunate that God chose this method to keep humans procreating. I think it would have been better if he had allowed us to enjoy asexual reproduction. Then we could all have nice relationships without all the danger, the drama, the curse, the rage, the resentment, the confusion, the miscommunication, the threats, the games.

Not sayin’ God goofed. I just think that maybe down the evolutionary line He might want to rethink this messy stuff.

capt

 

[mdr]

Maybe, maybe not. I think that the will to power will always be a wrench in human relations, with or without sex. Removing one drive, one source of power prob’ly wouldn’t prevent the games and heartache and manipulation IMO - just look at a group of same-gender middle-schoolers to see many of the same dynamics, for good or for ill. Betrayal by a bff is heartbreaking, too.

Guess it’s original sin rearing its head again. People thought communism would be so wonderful because it would have everyone share like one big happy family, and look how badly that worked out. There’s selfishness and greed and competition in any arena, no matter how hard we try to level the playing field. Not trying to be depressing at all, just acknowledging the situation as it is - gotta have an accurate diagnosis before starting treatment.

sigh Wish we could all just get along, eh?

Just have to be like Mother Teresa and see it all as opportunity to give real love. I think Polyanna is underrated - the “glad game” takes a lot of effort but is very well worth it.