Where will Christianity be in 100 years.

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About the same, with current trends only intensifying: both Catholics and Protestants will only get more and more extreme, more uncompromising, more intolerant, more neglectful of environmental concerns (eg birth control) and more obstructing scientific research (eg embryonic stem cells). A really happy world this is going to be. :rolleyes:
 
My vote was:

The Apocalypse will have started and those that are will know the error of their ways.

Now I am not basing this off anything really. I know that Jesus said no one but the Father will know when… I am just hoping… 😉
 
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JesusIsTheWay:
My vote was:

The Apocalypse will have started and those that are will know the error of their ways.

Now I am not basing this off anything really. I know that Jesus said no one but the Father will know when… I am just hoping… 😉
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Dear JesusIsTheWay,

ALL of history is apocalyptic. From the Creation to the Antichrist, all is apocalyptic. And, from the witness of the Catholic mystics, the current apostasy (and it certainly is an apostasy in the West) is not the end of the world. Rather, the mystics indicate that significantly before the end of the world and antichrist, a godless, faithless age, a minor apostasy, will come. It will be followed conditionally by a chastisement that, one way or another, will bring the world back to the RCC for an extended “Age of Peace.” Only after this sabbath rest from the sin of history will the great apostasy and antichrist come. Hence, on the immediate horizon is a chastisement, that will be followed by a near full restoration of Catholicism in the West and probably even much of the world. This is clearly symbolized by the Millennium of Revelation 20.

GB,
Scott
 
Heathen Dawn:
About the same, with current trends only intensifying: both Catholics and Protestants will only get more and more extreme, more uncompromising, more intolerant, more neglectful of environmental concerns (eg birth control) and more obstructing scientific research (eg embryonic stem cells). A really happy world this is going to be. :rolleyes:
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Dear Heathen Dawn,

I am very sad for you. If only you knew that LOVE is the meaning and fulfillment of existence. Maybe then you could understand the severe evils of artificial birth control and the massacre of embryos for stem cells.

have you ever heard of the four levels of happiness?
(we would perhaps need to start a new thread for this.)

Scott
 
In 2104 there will be 975,000 different denominations of Protestantism, 8174 different Orthodox denominations, and 2935 denominations of Catholicism. But still one scientology. Just kidding. These polls are getting a little strange. 😃

In the year 2104…(higher pitch)…in the year 2104…(lower pitch)…in the year 2104 (e.g. Conan Obrien)

Phil P
 
I would have gone with the second option if you gave it a few hundred more years. Maybe 250 to 1000. I firmly believe the Church will be one again.

Mel
 
I believe we are about to enter the time of the “Great Enlightenment” as was revealed to St. Faustina
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Whats the “Great Enlightenment”?
 
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Melchior:
I would have gone with the second option if you gave it a few hundred more years. Maybe 250 to 1000. I firmly believe the Church will be one again.

Mel
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Many of the approved Catholic mystics agree with your prediction. According to Birch’s research into the approved Private Revelations, there will be a minor apostasy significantly before antichrist and the end of the world that will be followed by a conditional chastisement and the REUNION OF CHRISTIANS. All indicators seem to point to the fact that we may veritably be in this minor apostasy already and can expect a chastisement and a return to the Church after that. Only thing is we don’t know the time frames.

also, Jesus may be treating of this in his prayer for Christian unity (John 17:20-23). Here, I think Christ implies that there will be TWO major conversions in history (of the Gentiles), the first being Christendom but with imperfections, i.e., severe Christian disunity. Because of the severe disunity, the world falls away (i.e., if Christians are NOT “one, as the Father and the Son are one,” then the world will NOT be able to “believe”). On the other hand, there will be a second conversion following the miracle of God’s Grace: God uses the minor apostasy to draw Christians together, and hence, the Christians finding unity enables the world to “believe.”

This is just my speculation, but it seems to be very good speculation in light of the aforementioned prophecy of the mystics.

GB,
Scott
 
Well, in my opinion all is getting better, and the cofee catholics are going down, in the next generation these people won´t baptize their children and die, the west dies and the third world is going better and will be christian, these people will evangelize us, and I hope tha the Catholic Chuch will come back to practise excomunions to people that provoke scandals to the faithful people, greetings
 
100 years from now most western states will be Catholic countries.
 
Heathen Dawn:
About the same, with current trends only intensifying: both Catholics and Protestants will only get more and more extreme, more uncompromising, more intolerant, more neglectful of environmental concerns (eg birth control) and more obstructing scientific research (eg embryonic stem cells). A really happy world this is going to be. :rolleyes:
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Sacrificing one human for the benefit of another in the name of “scientific research” – which is what embryonic stem cell research is about – was once practiced exclusively by the Nazis. We were appalled by it; now we insist upon it. Utilitarianism rules.

Bulemia and contraception both render perfectly natural processes dysfunctional and thwart the Creator’s design. Natural Family Planning does not. Both contraception and NFP “control births.”

We’re making real progress toward self-annihilation, which seems to be our goal. The United States has grown old is dying. We’re having to import young people from other countries to do our work as a result of our anti-child attitudes. Europe is also dying.

The future of Christianity is in the hands of third world countries.

JMJ Jay
 
I think that in an hundred years many of the more orthodox Protestant churches will slowly dissolve as their members restore communion with Rome. However, I believe that overall the Catholic population worldwide may decrease. There will, I believe, be a greater number of what I like to consider “fringe” Christianites–such as radical OSAS churches, Mormons and Jehova’s Witnesses. I do not see the Orthodox Church restoring union with the Catholic Church anytime soon.
 
We’re making real progress toward self-annihilation, which seems to be our goal. The United States has grown old is dying. We’re having to import young people from other countries to do our work as a result of our anti-child attitudes. Europe is also dying.
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You make a good point Katholikos I can’t help but wonder if in the next 50 to 100 year (if not sooner) the US won’t be severly punished for our many sins if we thought 9/11 was bad I’d hate to see what will happen when God runs out of paitence with us (Minor Chastisment maybe?)
 
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starrs0:
You make a good point Katholikos I can’t help but wonder if in the next 50 to 100 year (if not sooner) the US won’t be severly punished for our many sins if we thought 9/11 was bad I’d hate to see what will happen when God runs out of paitence with us (Minor Chastisment maybe?)
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This is precisely what I said. Instead of just guessing, why not consider the abundance of approved Private Rev? After all, the mystics had intimate union with God. We should give weight to their predictions, especially if they were Revelations. And the mystics confirm that a Minor Chastisement awaits us soon if the world does not repent. But, regardless, the good news they predict is that the world will come home to Rome, and we’ll have a glorious “Age of Peace” that could last centuries. Hence, the Pope’s optimism for the Third Millennium is quite in line with the mystics’ predictions.
 
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spauline:
This is precisely what I said. Instead of just guessing, why not consider the abundance of approved Private Rev? .
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Does the Church “approve” private revelations ??? I don’t think so.

JMJ Jay
 
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Katholikos:
Does the Church “approve” private revelations ??? I don’t think so.

JMJ Jay
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Well, from what I gather, the Church never says we MUST believe in the approved ones, only that there is evidence of the supernatural in them and that we MAY believe in them if we wish, since there is nothing in such messages that contradicts PUBLIC Rev.

On the other hand, why spurn them? Communism came as Our Lady said at Fatima. Shall we then spurn her promise of the “Triumph of [Her] Immaculate Heart” and an “Era of Peace”? Many other approved Revelations foretell a similar Age of Peace. Hence, I would say it’s rather likely to occur.
 
Someone said it above; America is increasingly individualistic. My own communion (United Methodism) has a movement from within to do away with the episcopacy (bishops). Another movement wants to form it’s own conference/diocese that is pro-homosexuality. I used to think this was primarily a United Methodist phenomenon, until I met Catholics who are of similar mindset. America is largely a country of rugged individualists.

American is quickly going in the same direction as Europe; increasingly secular. I’m of the opinion this is from poor (or non-existent) catechesis. Also, America is doing a very poor job of adult catechesis - there are many, many 30-40 yr olds were not raised in the church, and when liturgical traditions such as mine, Anglican/Episcopalian, Lutheran, E.O’s, and Catholics use prayer books, creeds, collects, prayers of confessions, and embrace a sacramental life - we lose these adults if we don’t instruct them in these foundational matters of the faith, worship, and tradition of the Church. I’m serving a parish that is growing - but I have baptized and confirmed as many adults as I have infants and youth. These are adults coming to the faith for the FIRST time. All our traditions need to adjust our RCIA’s for first-time Christians, not just converts.

The American Church is about 20 years behind society in addressing matters of technology, social mores, and the like. We’ve abdicated our role, and find more passion in politics and “electing our man/woman” to fix our problems. I suspect Jesus would expect us to give Caesar his due, but to render our hearts to God. We need to be less about electing politicians who compromise for a living (if they want to stay in office, anyway), and instead embrace the God of truth and light.

I too see more orthodox Protestants returning to an Apostolic tradition… but the more orthodox Protestants find the “same hymn, different verse” from Rome, and find themselves more in line with the Eastern Church and Byzantine Church - more faith and embrace of the mystery of faith and less politics and pat explanations. I tried to convert once and to seek ordination in the Catholic Church; I was politely told that I was more “catholic” than most priests in their diocese, but that the “hoop jumping” was more than they wanted to deal with. I have since found peace and confirmation in my vocation and being in the Methodist communion. But it, like most of the American Church, is dwindling. Given the trends and attitudes, I suspect the American Catholic Church is about 30 years behind us if catechism, conversion, and spiritual formation isn’t taken seriously.

Christianity has amnesia; my own Methodist tradition had a “method” that worked: personal and corporate piety, the daily offices of prayer, small-group accountability, embrace of the sacraments as a means of grace and the sustaining of our faith (weekly, if not daily, eucharist), living the Creed as our statement of faith, subscribing to holiness of heart and mind, and viewing the world as our parish. We’ve forgotten our method - how much have we forgotten of the Great Commission?

Pax,

O+
 
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BobCatholic:
In the USA, the Catholic Church shall be underground by the year 2050, having been either taxed or sued (under hate crimes laws) out of visible existence. Masses will be said in people’s home just as it was around Pagan Rome’s time. (Come to my home, if I have one, and say the password to get in 🙂 )

Protestantism will either cave in to the liberal ways and follow the hate crimes laws to the letter (no more teaching homosexual acts are bad) or be taxed or sued out of visible existence as well. These will eventually come and convert to Catholicism as we both are fighting the same battle, and doctrinal issues will resolve themselves.

Eastern Orthdox and the other apostolic churches (including schismatic catholic groups) also will be taxed or sued out of visible existence. They will also come join us as well.

Eventually, this will happen in all nations except one: Vatican City. The UN will attempt to impose liberalism on the Vatican State, and it won’t do it. It will be ejected from the UN, and the Pope will clap his hands with cheer as he receives the ejection notice. Then he speaks louder about the Truth, speaking loud against sin, angering many in the world.

From this point there will be one of two ways: a revolution (where the faithful around the world rise up and fight a war) or the apocalypse.

Of course, this is just my personal opinion. It is not some revelation I had in a dream or a nightmare.
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Don’t want to rub salt in the wound, but lawsuits from priestly scandals have devastated some parishes out of existence. So, while outside forces are against her, she is responsible for some of her own wrongful ways - which I know most if not all Catholics admit. The idea that it will only be outside forces is rather simplistic thinking.

Peace…
 
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