"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."

[kimmielittle]

Thanks for your replies. I cannot, according to forums rules, paste links to racist websites. If you go to your favorite search engine, type in “Obama” “birth certificate” “racist” you might find the white power types are crawling out and squawking about how President Obama still is not a legitimate president. Why would you send me to such places?

Yuppers, it is. This is forum to post in.

 

[bbarrick8383]

Thanks for your replies. I cannot, according to forums rules, paste links to racist websites. If you go to your favorite search engine, type in “Obama” “birth certificate” “racist” you might find the white power types are crawling out and squawking about how President Obama still is not a legitimate president.

"This is not the time or place for such conversation.
I could care less about your racist cousins in the south. Go find another forum to talk about your family in. "

Yuppers, it is. This is forum to post in. Because a lot of racists are posting everywhere on line now that the birth certificate is fake. The racists are posting because they don’t believe a man of African American heritage can be a legitimate president of the US.

"Why? Nothing else has been barred to my knowledge. As far as I can see there are no boundaries to what can be dragged into this conversation. I for one believe a white president would never have felt the need to stoop to the indignity that occurred this morning. Is that opinion out of the non-existent limits of discussion on this issue? "

Thank you. The people squealing about President Obama’s birth certificate are not talking about President Obama’s policies.

Rather, they are upset about who President Obama IS Again, not what President Obama has done. But what he “is”

Pretty much the definition of bigotry.

The Catholic Church has never degraded people on the basis of their skin color.

Therefore faithful Catholics will discuss President Obama’s policies. Discussing whether Obama can be legitimately elected President because he’s of African American heritage is racist. I’m sure all good Catholics and other Christians agreed. Glad to know we’re all moving on. Oh, here is some teachings from the Catholic Church. Thank goodness we all agree …

Racial prejudice, which denies the equal dignity of all the members of the human family and blasphemes the Creator, can only be eradicated by going to its roots, where it is formed: in the human heart. It is from the heart that just or unjust behavior is born,(63) according to whether persons are open to God’s will-in the natural order and in the Living Word-or whether they close themselves up in those egoisms dictated by fear or the instinct of domination. It is the way we look at others that must be purified. Harboring racist thoughts and entertaining racist attitudes is a sin against the specific message of Christ for whom one’s “neighbor” is not only a person from my tribe, my milieu, my religion or my nation: it is every person that I meet along the way.
It is not through external means-legislation or scientific proofs-that racial prejudice can be uprooted. It is indeed not enough that laws prohibit or punish all types of racial discrimination: these laws can easily be gotten around if the community for which they are intended does not fully accept them. To overcome discrimination, a community must interiorize the values that inspire just laws and live out, in day-to-day life, the conviction of the equal dignity of all. ewtn.com/library/curia/pcjpraci.htm

I give the posters here the benefit of the doubt. I do not believe one of them is being racist in their intentions. To drop the race bomb because your cousins in the south said something, in the middle of a thread that has nothing to do with racism is flirting with race baiting. I could google all day long and find all the racist information I want, but I’d rather not read what they have to say. If you have a relevant news article about racism, Obama and the BC then by all means start a thread and I’d be more than happy to participate. But do not try and insinuate that those here discussing the birth certificate are doing so with the same intentions of those you are related to or have googled. The internet will tell you whatever you want it to say. That does not mean it should be discussed in the middle of a legitimate thread.

 

[William_Pitts]

Why? Nothing else has been barred to my knowledge. As far as I can see there are no boundaries to what can be dragged into this conversation. I for one believe a white president would never have felt the need to stoop to the indignity that occurred this morning. Is that opinion out of the non-existent limits of discussion on this issue?

Not so. I was flagged and penalized for something I wrote. Don’t bother to look for it. It was removed. I don’t agree that what I said was aimed at any particular person nor do I think I was out of line considering my past experiences. But I do agree with your post.

If people would spend the same amount of time praying for the president as they do in criticizing him our country would be better off than it is.

 

[kimmielittle]

Why? Nothing else has been barred to my knowledge. As far as I can see there are no boundaries to what can be dragged into this conversation. I for one believe a white president would never have felt the need to stoop to the indignity that occurred this morning.

And I believe, had Mr. McCain won the Presidency - He would have faced the same.

An archive search shows the question of McCain’s birth certificate and his eligibility to be president was actively pursued by** Democratic Party activists and the mainstream media** in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election, despite the ridicule now heaped upon those questioning Obama’s qualifications under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.

In an article published Feb. 28, 2008, months before McCain was nominated for president by the Republican Party, FactCheck.org, at the very center of Obama’s defense against eligibility questions, was itself raising them about McCain.

In a piece that led off with the question, “How can Panamanian-born McCain be elected president?” FactCheck.org conceded McCain did meet the natural-born citizen requirements. But the website qualified its answer, stating that if McCain did win the presidency, the issue could be challenged in court.

This is not the first time the question has been broached in a presidential election. Fellow Arizonian Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona territory before it was a state. And Mitt Romney’s father, George, ran for president in 1968, though he was born in Mexico.

factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_can_panamanian-born_mccain_be_elected_president.html

In addition to media scrutiny, Mr. McCain testified before a U.S. Senate committee and produced his long-form birth certificate for inspection.

wnd.com/?pageId=127362

 

[kimmielittle]

If people would spend the same amount of time praying for the president as they do in criticizing him our country would be better off than it is.

Do you mean prayer without acts?

When a President makes me part and party to something I know goes against God - Should I not speak-up?

When a President makes me part and party to something I know goes against the Constitution…?

When a President makes me part and party to something I know goes against stated platforms he promised…?

I dono

I firmly believe, the President and Congress is to answer to the people.

 

[dusty_david]

I give the posters here the benefit of the doubt. I do not believe one of them is being racist in their intentions. To drop the race bomb because your cousins in the south said something, in the middle of a thread that has nothing to do with racism is flirting with race baiting. I could google all day long and find all the racist information I want, but I’d rather not read what they have to say. If you have a relevant news article about racism, Obama and the BC then by all means start a thread and I’d be more than happy to participate. But do not try and insinuate that those here discussing the birth certificate are doing so with the same intentions of those you are related to or have googled. The internet will tell you whatever you want it to say. That does not mean it should be discussed in the middle of a legitimate thread.

President Obama released his long form birth certificate today. What’s the topic of this thread?
Oh, it’s “WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President.”
I think what I posted about President Obama’s birth certificate is relevant for this thread. If not, please let me know. And please cite rules of this website that I violated in this thread.

We have the following facts.

1. President Obama released his long form birth certificate today.
2. The release of his birth certificate shows President Obama is a US citizen.
3. President Obama is eligible to be president of the US.
4. President Obama was elected to the presidency in 2008.

The “birther” controversy is closed.

Further speculation whether or not President Obama is an American or a legitimate President to the United States is now proven to be racist.

Denying President Obama is an American or a legitimate president is racist because the birther argument is who about President Obama** IS.** Not President Obama’s policies. Not about President Obama’s position on various political issues. But who President Obama IS – a baby born in Hawaii to an American woman and a man who is a citizen of Kenya.

The laws of the United States say President Obama is a citizen of the United States.

President Obama is a citizen. President Obama won the presidential election in 2008. President Obama is President of the United States.

To keep bringing up discredited arguments about President Obama’s heritage and to continue to say he is not American – in the face of all these facts – is racist.

 

[kimmielittle]

President Obama released his long form birth certificate today. What’s the topic of this thread?
Oh, it’s “WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President.”
I think what I posted about President Obama’s birth certificate is relevant for this thread. If not, please let me know. And please cite rules of this website that I violated in this thread.

We have the following facts.

1. President Obama released his long form birth certificate today.
2. The release of his birth certificate shows President Obama is a US citizen.
3. President Obama is eligible to be president of the US.
4. President Obama was elected to the presidency in 2008.

The “birther” controversy is closed.

Further speculation whether or not President Obama is an American or a legitimate President to the United States is now proven to be racist.

Your Birth place has nothing to do with race - It’s geography…AND in the case of Elected Officials ALL ] - How that geography pertains to eligibility.

Please quit trying to make it racist.

It’s nonsense to even suggest this if you don’t even know my race - let alone any other posters.

 

[dusty_david]

The internet is buzzing about the release of President Obama’s birth certificate. I’ve kept posting links to this website. That means people reading about arguments about whether President Obama is a legitimate president or not are reading and linking to what people here are posting.

Many of posters here say they are devout Catholics So I hope devout people know, when they post here, that they are representatives of their faith.

Arguments among faithful Christians here, about whether a black man can be a legitimate President, will of course reflect back on posters’ faith. I hope Catholic posters follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.

 

[kimmielittle]

The internet is buzzing about the release of President Obama’s birth certificate. I’ve kept posting links to this website. That means people reading about arguments about whether President Obama is a legitimate president or not are reading and linking to what people here are posting.

Many of posters here say they are devout Catholics So I hope devout people know, when they post here, that they are representatives of their faith.

Arguments among faithful Christians here, about whether a black man can be a legitimate President, will of course reflect back on posters’ faith. I hope Catholic posters follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Hmmmm…What religion do you profess to be? No offense but “None” leaves me to wonder…

It’s nonsense to even suggest racist acts - if you don’t even know my race - let alone any other posters.

 

[dusty_david]

Your Birth place has nothing to do with race - It’s geography…AND in the case of Elected Officials ALL ] - How that geography pertains to eligibility.

Please quit trying to make it racist.

It’s nonsense to even suggest this if you don’t even know my race - let alone any other posters.

I’m not sure how geography has anything to do with whether President Obama is an American or a legitimate President. President Obama was born in Hawaii a US state in 1961.

Senator John McCain was born in Panama. I haven’t’ seen questions from 2008 to now questioning if Senator McCain is an American and is eligible to be President. I’m not seeing nationwide organized protest groups demanding Senator McCain prove he is a US citizen in 2011.

I’m seeing questions here about whether President Obama is American and eligible to be President.

President Obama’s long form birth certificate is public knowledge.

There’s no more doubt whether President Obama is a US citizen or a legitimate President.

Continued arguments that President Obama is not an American and therefore not eligible to be President – an argument no other President has dealt – are based on President Obama’s skin color and heritage.

Arguing a black man cannot be President of the US is racist.

 

[Tighty_Whitey]

I’m not sure how geography has anything to do with whether President Obama is an American or a legitimate President. President Obama was born in Hawaii a US state in 1961.

Senator John McCain was born in Panama. I haven’t’ seen questions from 2008 to now questioning if Senator McCain is an American and is eligible to be President. I’m not seeing nationwide organized protest groups demanding Senator McCain prove he is a US citizen in 2011.

I’m seeing questions here about whether President Obama is American and eligible to be President.

President Obama’s long form birth certificate is public knowledge.

There’s no more doubt whether President Obama is a US citizen or a legitimate President.

This entire issue has absolutely nothing to do with whether Obama is American nor does it have to do with his race. Thank goodness the issue has been put to rest. Peace, g

Continued arguments that President Obama is not an American and therefore not eligible to be President – an argument no other President has dealt – are based on President Obama’s skin color and heritage.

Arguing a black man cannot be President of the US is racist.

 

[markomalley]

Don’t like it, you can leave

In the past two years, it is Amazing (yes, with a capital “A”) how many people have adapted the, “America, love it or leave it” attitude.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

America is attractive to millions of people who strive so hard to get here … because they LOVE the American attitude of American Exceptionalism …where you can escape the totalitarianism that exists in so many other countries of the world.

So, if someone loves the alleged advantages of strong central governments, they are free to immigrate to Zimbabwe which was once the breadbasket of Africa and now, having embraced socialism, is now the basketcase of Africa.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Barack Obama is your president. That’s who he is. If you do not believe he is a legitimate president, then of course you can leave the country. BTW since your family is from Canada, you may not know that “what is …” is used in white racist groups to refer to African Americans and other non-whites. Because “who is …” means you are referring to a person, i.e., a white man or woman. Of course you wouldn’t know that.
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I am an IT project manager, but it is not WHO I am. Figure out the difference.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

In the past two years, it is Amazing (yes, with a capital “A”) how many people have adapted the, “America, love it or leave it” attitude.

No kidding. We have become a hegemonous, nanny government, near police-state and if I don’t like it, I guess I should pack my bags and move to Costa Rica rather than do something about it. Some people in this country REALLY like them some big government.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

America is attractive to millions of people who strive so hard to get here … because they LOVE the American attitude of American Exceptionalism …where you can escape the totalitarianism that exists in so many other countries of the world.

So, if someone loves the alleged advantages of strong central governments, they are free to immigrate to Zimbabwe which was once the breadbasket of Africa and now, having embraced socialism, is now the basketcase of Africa.

 

[Hiskid1973]

So, if someone loves the alleged advantages of strong central governments, they are free to immigrate to Zimbabwe which was once the breadbasket of Africa and now, having embraced socialism, is now the basketcase of Africa.

I honestly don’t see the what the desire is for socialism,marxism, communism when you
see the results in various parts of the world…Granted greed has done a lot of damage here
but still what we have…Can you imagine this place run by Chaveze ?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Arguing a black man cannot be President of the US is racist.

I deleted the rest of your post because it is profoundly ignorant. I’ll stick to this one point however. I have yet to see in 700 posts a single entry that argues that Barack Obama should not be President because of the color of his skin. You are the only one obsessing about it.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

I honestly don’t see the what the desire is for socialism,marxism, communism when you
see the results in various parts of the world…Granted greed has done a lot of damage here
but still what we have…Can you imagine this place run by Chaveze ?

Considering that Chavez made a comment to Fidel Castro that they need to be careful or they will look conservative compared to Barack Obama is telling though. But, I think that the use of this thread has run its course and has intractably digressed to other subject matters. I’ll see you all in those.

 

[Hiskid1973]

I deleted the rest of your post because it is profoundly ignorant. I’ll stick to this one point however. I have yet to see in 700 posts a single entry that argues that Barack Obama should not be President because of the color of his skin.

So correct…We see the workings of fundamental change being enacted from a person with
radical influences…The last election showed that a large chunk of people do not like that change…The color of the person enacting those changes has nothing to do with it…Granted there is no doubt some are racist, but I don’t see that here or in the majority…