"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."

[TMC]

It was an article about how the President made absolutely no reference or mention of the nature of Good Friday and Easter Sunday, the biggest religious holiday for Christians, while continually mentioning all of the Muslim holidays whenever they occur. For a man who is a self-described Christian, he certainly goes out of his way to not have that as common knowledge.

Huh? The president held an Easter prayer breakfast with a bunch of Christian clergy last week, talked about Easter in his weekly address and is hosting an Easter event at the White House as I type this.

 

[TMC]

Drudge linked to it and I suspect that overloaded their server. It pointed out that Obama did not make an Easter Proclomation and his Passover proclamation was directed at the “plight” of the Palestinians

I just went and read the president’s Passover message, and it does not say anything whatsoever about the “plight” of the Palestinians.

 

[duneman]

my wife and i keep ours in a box underneath the bed, doesn’t everybody ?!?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It was an article about how the President made absolutely no reference or mention of the nature of Good Friday and Easter Sunday, the biggest religious holiday for Christians, while continually mentioning all of the Muslim holidays whenever they occur. For a man who is a self-described Christian, he certainly goes out of his way to not have that as common knowledge.

So based on what TMC just posted, this information is incorrect.

Jim

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Huh? The president held an Easter prayer breakfast with a bunch of Christian clergy last week, talked about Easter in his weekly address and is hosting an Easter event at the White House as I type this.

What does brightly colored eggs have to do with the passion, suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus?

 

[SamH]

What does brightly colored eggs have to do with the passion, suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus?

Just when I thought the current team running the White House might have used up all its allotted mistakes comes word that President Obama failed to issue either an Easter or a Good Friday greeting to the nation.

Now, let’s forget for a moment that these greetings, which presidents issue on many holidays and commemorations of events, are largely perfunctory and symbolic gestures that nobody cares about.

Until there’s a problem with them.

Fox News first caught the blunder and put it into context that makes the omission insulting to Christians. The mistake is odd enough to call into question just what Obama’s priorities are.

By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

The White House . . . did release an eight-paragraph statement heralding Earth Day. Likewise, the president’s weekend address mentioned neither Good Friday or Easter.

whitehousedossier.com/2011/04/25/easter-greeting/

And as I noted last week, the president released a Passover greeting this month that compared the ancient Jewish exodus from Egypt to the Arab political awakening this year, which would be a beautiful thing if most Arabs didn’t seek Israel’s destruction.

The president is, of course, hosting the Easter Egg Roll at the White House today. But Easter isn’t really about rolling eggs on a manicured lawn, now is it?

UPDATE: Asked during this afternoon’s briefing about the issue, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney suggested Obama’s “high profile” visit to a church Sunday should suffice.

“I’m not sure if we put out a statement or not, but he obviously personally celebrated Easter with his family,” Carney said, adding ”the president took his family out to church in a very high-profile way.”

Was there no mention that this is a predominately black church because the media didn’t want the American people to know that our President chooses his church based on race?

It’s understandable that the President hasn’t been to eager to jump back into church life given that the one and only church our President has ever joined in his life is one of the biggest political sandbags he carried through the 2008 campaign.

 

[TMC]

What does brightly colored eggs have to do with the passion, suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus?

The charge was that the president had done nothing to acknowledge Easter, and I pointed out that was flatly untrue, as he has done at least three things. One was openly religious event, one was a inconsequential statement, and one was a cultural event. As for the cultural event - the Easter Egg Roll - if he had hosted an “Eid al Fitr Sack Hop” would you have said that has nothing to do with Islam because it was not an overtly religious event?

 

[markomalley]

It was an article about how the President made absolutely no reference or mention of the nature of Good Friday and Easter Sunday, the biggest religious holiday for Christians, while continually mentioning all of the Muslim holidays whenever they occur. For a man who is a self-described Christian, he certainly goes out of his way to not have that as common knowledge.

“This year, that ancient instruction is reflected in the daily headlines as we see modern stories of social transformation and liberation unfolding in the Middle East and North Africa.”

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

I was Greek Orthodox for 8 years. Its Cristos Anesti, to which you reply, Alithos Anesti.

And the eggs they use are red, all of the Orthodox traditions are based around the paschal mystery, not babylonian fertility rituals.

 

[estesbob]

The charge was that the president had done nothing to acknowledge Easter, and I pointed out that was flatly untrue, as he has done at least three things. One was openly religious event, one was a inconsequential statement, and one was a cultural event. As for the cultural event - the Easter Egg Roll - if he had hosted an “Eid al Fitr Sack Hop” would you have said that has nothing to do with Islam because it was not an overtly religious event?

Nobody said the president did not acknowledge Easter. What the article said was he did not issue an Easter proclamation as is normal. I don’t think this proves he is a closet Muslim, I just think it is further evidence that he is inept.

I believe Obama is a Christian although his faith is far from the center of his life.

 

[estesbob]

We must be reading different articles. The one that was linked from the article I linked to was a straightforward recitation of facts which, by the way ,pointed out that he had went to Easter services and that he was going to be hosting the annual Easter egg roll. What in the article did you find that was yellow journalism?

 

[Big_Ro]

All he has to do is turn it over.

The arrogance … its a honor to be the President of the United States.
It isnt too much to ask to turn over the birth certificate.

The longer it goes on… I wonder what he is hiding too.

The laws of the State of Hawaii do not allow for the release of the so called long form certificte with or without approval. The President himself is only allowed to view it. He may not copy it nor remove it. Such foolishness. Why didn’t this topic stay banned?

 

[kimmielittle]

One last thing, pay close attention to this part of the article;

One last thing, pay close attention to what was said.

But those documents are state government property that can’t be released to anyone, even the president himself, said Joshua Wisch, special assistant to the state attorney general. Obama would be able to inspect his birth records if he visited the Health Department in person, but original records of live birth are never released, he said.
staradvertiser.com/news/b…120561054.html

BLATANT attempt at misdirection:

According to Hawaii Revised Statutes, Paragraph 38-13(a) specifies that the agency “shall, upon request, furnish an applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.” Further, subparagraph C allows that copies of birth certificates “may be made by photograph, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health.”

capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm

The Original Long Form can not be ** given** to the President…But a Copy of that Long Form - - can.

I’m a kid…and even I - didn’t fall for this attempted misdirection.

 

[kimmielittle]

The laws of the State of Hawaii do not allow for the release of the so called long form certificte with or without approval. The President himself is only allowed to view it. He may not copy it nor remove it. Such foolishness. Why didn’t this topic stay banned?

Please give reference for your statement.

Here is mine:

capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm

According to Hawaii Revised Statutes, Paragraph 38-13(a) specifies that the agency "shall, upon request, furnish an applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof." Further, subparagraph C allows that copies of birth certificates “may be made by photograph, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health.”

I can show others that have received the Long Forms. Since 2005 - 2010

 

[kimmielittle]

I haven’t done that - I’ve presented legitimate questions and examples -

 

[Big_Ro]

Please give reference for your statement.

Here is mine:

capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm

I can show others that have received the Long Forms. Since 2005

A State official from Hawaii was quoted as saying something to that effect. The quote was included in a previous post. Have it your Kimmie. I really don’t think its worth my time debating this foolishness. And, I think it’s pretty clear that the Birthers will simply not be persuaded by any amount of evidence. Still, I think its incumbant on the prosecution to present ample evidence. There is not one shred of credible evidence that the President was born outside the USA. I have researched each tidbit and they are each easily refuted, including the so called interview with the grandmother. If I were on a jury I could easily vote not guilty. Anyway, your welcome to your beliefs. God bless.

 

[kimmielittle]

Thank you

I think you will find - If I post something - I’ve researched both sides.

But when we start going on about ‘Babylonian rituals’ in other posts well things are getting silly indeed I’d say.

I try to shift my way through such stuff and get to the meat - On some weblinks it is very hard

 

[kimmielittle]

A State official from Hawaii was quoted as saying something to that effect. The quote was included in a previous post. Have it your Kimmie. I really don’t think its worth my time debating this foolishness. And, I think it’s pretty clear that the Birthers will simply not be persuaded by any amount of evidence. Still, I think its incumbant on the prosecution to present ample evidence. There is not one shred of credible evidence that the President was born outside the USA. I have researched each tidbit and they are each easily refuted, including the so called interview with the grandmother. If I were on a jury I could easily vote not guilty. Anyway, your welcome to your beliefs. God bless.

I gave you the Hawaii State Government web page and Ordinance numbers - They contradict what was said by that state employee

Yeppers!!! I actually researched hundreds of Hawaiian Laws - before I posted it.

I’m not a “birther” please don’t call or associate me with that - I AM, like a growing number of the public, expecting a President who chose as his platform “Transparency”, to have it start… at the Presidency.

I mean, do you think Mr. Obama would be embarrassed to show that in Kindergarten - He colored outside the lines?

C’mon…

 

[Hiskid1973]

And, I think it’s pretty clear that the Birthers will simply not be persuaded by any amount of evidence. Still, I think its incumbant on the prosecution to present ample evidence. There is not one shred of credible evidence that the President was born outside the USA. I have researched each tidbit and they are each easily refuted, including the so called interview with the grandmother. If I were on a jury I could easily vote not guilty. Anyway, your welcome to your beliefs. God bless.

I think he would gain some credibility and diffuse a lot of speculation if he would disclose what
all is being sealed/hidden…

 

[Joseph_L_Varga]

The Original Long Form can not be ** given** to the President…But a Copy of that Long Form - - can.

I’m a kid…and even I - didn’t fall for this attempted misdirection.

And then, when Phil Berg sues, or when the jailed Lt. Col. Terry Lakin’s defense asks for discovery, that is for access to Mr. Obama’s long form birth certificate, the President’s lawyers go to any length to block discovery.

The idea that some posters are peddling here, that showing the long-form birth certificate and making a photocopy of it are against the law, is ridiculous.

As we are exchanging these posts, an American hero, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is in jail. He is in jail because he correctly pointed out that Mr. Obama never proved his eligibility, and thus our military have legitimate doubts regarding his orders as “Commander In Chief”.

Granting the courts access to the long-form birth certificate would help dispel the doubts, and it’s not forbidden by law. But President Obama would rather spend millions (2.8 M so far, according to one source) to block access to his documents, than show those documents and come clean about his eligibility.