Where's the Holy Spirit

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I frequently hear the phrase of the Holy Spirit working in someone. How does that happen, why can’t it happen for me? I need the Holy Spirit to work in me so my faith can work for me. I need help from the Holy Spirit so my little flicker of faith can become a fire, instead of this little flame. Getting tired of trying so hard all the time. Where’s the Holy Spirit? How does the Holy Sprit thing work??
 
Give this prayer a try. It is reputed t be the only prayer that works each and every time it is offered:
Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and kindle in them the fire of your love. Send forth your Spirit and they shall be created. And You shall renew the face of the earth.
O, God, who by the light of the Holy Spirit, did instruct the hearts of the faithful, grant that by the same Holy Spirit we may be truly wise and ever enjoy His consolations, Through Christ Our Lord, Amen.
This is especially good before reading scripture. If you want a truly spiritual awakening, and are willing to submit yourself fully to the Holy Spirit, seek out a charismatic priest and ask for the “baptism in the Holy Spirit”
 
Pray, pray, pray, and pray.

Oh, and pray.

There is no other solution.

I have recently come back to the Church (January 2013). At that time, I was struggling with various grave sins. Little by little, I gave them all up. Perseverance in prayer is key. Things do not happen overnight. We grow in holiness day by day, brick by brick. It takes a lot of hard work. I have still lots and lots to improve and I still have areas where I’m struggling and days when I despair thinking that I’ve backtracked on my improvements. Being Catholic is not easy but the rewards are high!

Indeed, there are days when things seem to backslide after you think they have improved. It doesn’t matter! Just go pray some more.

I am still having many problems defending my Faith in public. But things are improving. I just ask God to fortify me every day.

God is kind and understands what you’re going through and knows what you wants. Just keep asking him and keep thanking him for what you have and praising him.

Key factors are: Fast, go to Mass often, pray, go to frequent confession and adoration, read Scriptures, and read the Catechism, say the Liturgy of the Hours when you can. Most importantly, pray the Rosary as often as you can. I found it helps almost more than anything else. Our Lady loves us so much and nothing she asks the Lord on our behalf will not be granted.

God bless you and may He keep you at His Side.
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There is a trap most of us fall into on a regular basis, including myself. We have a tendency to want evidence in order to have faith. For example, “If I pray for rain, and it rains, then I will have faith.” Conversely, “If I pray for rain and it does not rain, I will not have faith.” The key to overcoming that is in your thought processes. Do not pray incessantly for the intention(I’ll use rain for example throughout). He hears you the first time. He knows your heart even before you pray. Therefore, after you have prayed, you must trust God; not to grant the rain like a genie, but to do what is best. When doubt creeps in, say to yourself, “No, I have already prayed for rain, and I trust God’s will in regard to the rain.” Then go forth in life with joy and peace in all circumstances. Have belief at all times that God is doing what is best for you, even if it does not feel best at the time. After we learned to walk as toddlers, we fell and scraped knees painfully for years afterward as we honed our balance and coordination. We did not give up on walking and running despite the pain because we instinctively knew we wanted to be able to walk and run no matter what, and we knew that we would eventually. Have faith like that.
 
There is a trap most of us fall into on a regular basis, including myself. We have a tendency to want evidence in order to have faith. For example, “If I pray for rain, and it rains, then I will have faith.” Conversely, “If I pray for rain and it does not rain, I will not have faith.” The key to overcoming that is in your thought processes. Do not pray incessantly for the intention(I’ll use rain for example throughout). He hears you the first time. He knows your heart even before you pray. Therefore, after you have prayed, you must trust God; not to grant the rain like a genie, but to do what is best. When doubt creeps in, say to yourself, “No, I have already prayed for rain, and I trust God’s will in regard to the rain.” Then go forth in life with joy and peace in all circumstances. Have belief at all times that God is doing what is best for you, even if it does not feel best at the time. After we learned to walk as toddlers, we fell and scraped knees painfully for years afterward as we honed our balance and coordination. We did not give up on walking and running despite the pain because we instinctively knew we wanted to be able to walk and run no matter what, and we knew that we would eventually. Have faith like that.
I do agree that God always knows what’s in your heart (after all, he is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient). However, the Parable of the Persistent Widow (Luke 18) does show that if you keep asking for something the chances that you will receive it are higher than if you only pray for it once.

After all, do we not all pray daily for the Pope, or for our families? If we keep petitioning God for a particular intention, it is certain that he will take more notice of it. They key is to distinguish between verbal prayer and what is in our hearts. If we keep asking for, say, X to be converted, but deep down we don’t really care about whether X is converted or not, or we don’t believe that X WILL be converted, God is unlikely to pay much attention to our empty words. The key is for us to really want something in our hearts, trusting that God will grant it to us if it matches his Will. We must then persevere in our petition and trust that God will answer us.

Having said thus, it is also true that if we ask God for something verbally once, but then keep it in our Hearts and remind this intention in our prayers, He will surely take care of it.
 
Pray, pray, pray, and pray.

Oh, and pray.

There is no other solution.
What ^ said, verily - seeking God through prayer is ***the ***way through your concern (and thank you for being transparently honest in posting your concern & angst). You can find solace and peace in the study of His Word, yet prayer is the best way to communicate with God - never had a dropped call - EVER! 👍

The helper (Holy Spirit) which Jesus promises in John 14 through 16 WILL be working in, through and for you, though the timing and methods are never what we think or expect it to be. Please don’t think so little of God to think that He is some “cosmic vending machine” where your prayers result in your expectations. In short, have faith that God loves you, keep talking to Him from your heart & keep your chin up.

God loves you SO much more than you know!
 
There is a trap most of us fall into on a regular basis, including myself. We have a tendency to want evidence in order to have faith. For example, “If I pray for rain, and it rains, then I will have faith.” Conversely, “If I pray for rain and it does not rain, I will not have faith.” The key to overcoming that is in your thought processes. Do not pray incessantly for the intention(I’ll use rain for example throughout). He hears you the first time. He knows your heart even before you pray. Therefore, after you have prayed, you must trust God; not to grant the rain like a genie, but to do what is best.

I just wanted to say I liked the way you explained this and the rain analogy. When I think back to when I used to pray, it was more like letters to Santa Claus with multiple requests. Some were granted, some were not- my spirituality, if you can even call it that, was very quid pro quo. The rosary really helps keep me centered during prayer and the memorization of prayers. I still have intentions but it’s not the sole focus of my prayer, there’s adoration now, something that was completely missing before I started RCIA.
 
Pray, pray, pray, and pray.

Oh, and pray.

There is no other solution.

I have recently come back to the Church (January 2013). At that time, I was struggling with various grave sins. Little by little, I gave them all up. Perseverance in prayer is key. Things do not happen overnight. We grow in holiness day by day, brick by brick. It takes a lot of hard work. I have still lots and lots to improve and I still have areas where I’m struggling and days when I despair thinking that I’ve backtracked on my improvements. Being Catholic is not easy but the rewards are high!

Indeed, there are days when things seem to backslide after you think they have improved. It doesn’t matter! Just go pray some more.

I am still having many problems defending my Faith in public. But things are improving. I just ask God to fortify me every day.

God is kind and understands what you’re going through and knows what you wants. Just keep asking him and keep thanking him for what you have and praising him.
Exact same thoughts here, especially as a revert to Catholicism! 👍

If you want a classic prayer that is used to solemnly invoke the Holy Spirit on your soul, I’d recommend the Veni Creator Spiritus. Other than that, just pray and the seeds you plant will grow over time with proper watering.

Good luck, I will be praying for you, in request that the Holy Spirit does work wonders through you, worthy of any saint! 😉
 
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I just wanted to say I liked the way you explained this and the rain analogy. When I think back to when I used to pray, it was more like letters to Santa Claus with multiple requests. Some were granted, some were not- my spirituality, if you can even call it that, was very quid pro quo. The rosary really helps keep me centered during prayer and the memorization of prayers. I still have intentions but it’s not the sole focus of my prayer, there’s adoration now, something that was completely missing before I started RCIA.
I also think many of us including myself have a tendency to procrastinate in praying for and helping others. “Fill ME with your Holy Spirit , Oh Lord and THEN I will go out and heal others by that power.” I keep thinking that we must let the Holy Spirit flow through us like living water flows through a pipe, cleansing the pipe as it goes, and flowing forth to serve others. I think I need to forget myself and all my little wants and needs with faith that He already knows about them as I pray and work to help others. Living water is not meant to be bottled up.
 
I frequently hear the phrase of the Holy Spirit working in someone. How does that happen, why can’t it happen for me? I need the Holy Spirit to work in me so my faith can work for me. I need help from the Holy Spirit so my little flicker of faith can become a fire, instead of this little flame. Getting tired of trying so hard all the time. Where’s the Holy Spirit? How does the Holy Sprit thing work??
“…so my little flicker of faith can become a fire, instead of this little flame.”

I guess this is what we all want. This is something we look at as a progression rather than and instant. Growth takes time and effort.

The first thing is to clean out and to clean up the soul, and give it a good scrubbing.
The Holy Spirit dosen’t work in filth. And obsticles are put in his way even in small ways.

I would suggest, if you are serious and not just wishing, that you look to this so that he can freely work in and thru you. You may be holding on to a few things that just make the work of the Holy Spirit difficult.

For instance, St. John the Baptist, as the forerunner to Jesus, told the people to prepare for the messiah by making straight their ways, or to stop sinning thru reform. He wasn’t preaching something he himself wasn’t doing, terminating sin.

So if we want the Holy Spirit, then we must start examing our own self to find out just what those things are in our life that we need to straighten out. Then he can operate.

May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.
 
Thanks for all the advice. It probably doesn’t help that I have an inconsistent prayer life. Right now my prayers are not very good. I have been going to adoration at least once a week but daily my prayers are up and down. Without a lot of faith around me I have to work all the time doing all I can to surround myself with it. I wish my faith could get fired up like it has at one time at least, when I first came back to church. Mostly I just go through the motions but I wish my faith could feel real and alive. Instead it’s only what I make it to be. If that makes sense. :confused:
 
“…so my little flicker of faith can become a fire, instead of this little flame.”

I guess this is what we all want. This is something we look at as a progression rather than and instant. Growth takes time and effort.

The first thing is to clean out and to clean up the soul, and give it a good scrubbing.
The Holy Spirit dosen’t work in filth. And obsticles are put in his way even in small ways.

I would suggest, if you are serious and not just wishing, that you look to this so that he can freely work in and thru you. You may be holding on to a few things that just make the work of the Holy Spirit difficult…

So if we want the Holy Spirit, then we must start examing our own self to find out just what those things are in our life that we need to straighten out. Then he can operate.
Yes, this is what I want, not a wish. The problem is I don’t know how to make it work, how to clean up and clean out my soul. It’s just the same stuff over and over, I don’t let go of things well. There is so much going on in my life, lots of things cluttered in my mind and in my heart. I just don’t let go well. I’ve built a trust in a God but maybe it’s not strong enough. My faith, though there, is too small and weak.But, I want to let the Holy Spirit work in me. I want to see it through.
 
+JMJ+
Yes, this is what I want, not a wish. The problem is I don’t know how to make it work, how to clean up and clean out my soul. It’s just the same stuff over and over, I don’t let go of things well. There is so much going on in my life, lots of things cluttered in my mind and in my heart. I just don’t let go well. I’ve built a trust in a God but maybe it’s not strong enough. My faith, though there, is too small and weak.But, I want to let the Holy Spirit work in me. I want to see it through.
Do you not realize that that “little flicker of faith” is the Holy Spirit Himself? :confused:
 
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