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1holycatholic
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Ite missa estUnder who’s authority do you say this?
Ite missa estUnder who’s authority do you say this?
I don’t want to overwhelm you, so here’s one each:What??? Where on earth do you get your information? I have yet to hear about an Anglican or a Methodist or an Orthodox sex scandal my friend. I’m pretty certain its because there hasn’t been one. You can’t even come close to bending this issue enough to white-wash yourselves here so just admit it.![]()
The Catholic church did not have the doctrine of infallibility until centuries later.The schism that led to the “Eastern Orthodox” did not occur for more than 650 years after the Catholic Church infallibly established the Canon of Scripture.
That’s funny, I didn’t hear any of that in the news. You just couldn’t blow it up to the perspective of the sex scandal of the Roman Catholic church no matter which way you tried to. By the beginning of 2008, there were 107 Roman Catholic clergy members that were CONVICTED of sex abuse against children. I’m sure that the number has grown in the last year and a half. Was there 107+ members of the Anglican clergy or any other denomination for that matter convicted of such atrocities against children in any other sex scandal at any time?? I don’t think so.
You haven’t read the Early Church Fathers.The Catholic church did not have the doctrine of infallibility until centuries later.![]()
Sex abuse spans spectrum of churchesThat’s funny, I didn’t hear any of that in the news. You just couldn’t blow it up to the perspective of the sex scandal of the Roman Catholic church no matter which way you tried to. By the beginning of 2008, there were 107 Roman Catholic clergy members that were CONVICTED of sex abuse against children. I’m sure that the number has grown in the last year and a half. Was there 107+ members of the Anglican clergy or any other denomination for that matter convicted of such atrocities against children in any other sex scandal at any time?? I don’t think so.
And all we have to support what you’re saying here is…the say-so of the RC Church - a nice little example of circular reasoning.As a protestant, you are operating under the handicap of personal biblical interpretation. You do not have the benefit of the infallibility of the Magesterium of the Catholic Church ie: the Pope and bishops of the Church in union, speaking with authority on matters of faith and morality. protestants lack this charism and are forced to rely on their own opinions.
Proba maiorem!The canon of scripture was infallibly defined by the Catholic Church. Pick any chapter and verse you like.
Where is it knowledge that the Early Church fathers were Roman Catholic? I guess I and most of the rest of the Christian world missed that one.You haven’t read the Early Church Fathers.
Like I said on another thread, it’s all about exclusive authority with these folks.And all we have to support what you’re saying here is…the say-so of the RC Church - a nice little example of circular reasoning.
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Christ established one and only one Church, *the Catholic Church, *why do you have a problem with what Christ did?Like I said on another thread, it’s all about exclusive authority with these folks.
I won’t entertain your little game. Christ established a Church, not an exclusive institution. Show me otherwise in Scripture and I will submit to it.Christ established one and only one Church, *the Catholic Church, *why do you have a problem with what Christ did?
The Early Church Fathers were Catholic. “Roman Catholic” was a pejorative term coined by protestants, certainly you can find a thread or fifty on this forum with a quick search.Where is it knowledge that the Early Church fathers were Roman Catholic? I guess I and most of the rest of the Christian world missed that one.
The Catholic church is centered in Rome is it not? The Vatican is in Rome is it not? You can do better than that I would hope.The Early Church Fathers were Catholic. “Roman Catholic” was a pejorative term coined by protestants, certainly you can find a thread or fifty on this forum with a quick search.
Christ established an authoritative infallible Church. The Bible proceeds from the Church. Each time you refer to the Bible you honor the authority and infallibility of the Catholic Church.I won’t entertain your little game. Christ established a Church, not an exclusive institution. Show me otherwise in Scripture and I will submit to it.
The Catholic Church is centered on its founder, Christ.The Catholic church is centered in Rome is it not? The Vatican is in Rome is it not? You can do better than that I would hope.
Oh really? So then when Jesus proclaimed (as he did many times), “It is Written”, he was actually paying homage to the Catholic church? If this wasn’t so deplorable it would be hillarious.Christ established an authoritative infallible Church. The Bible proceeds from the Church. Each time you refer to the Bible you honor the authority and infallibility of the Catholic Church.
You dodged the question. You want to throw it in the face of Protestants but you won’t answer the question.The Catholic Church is centered on its founder, Christ.
You do know that Catholic means universal. Right? “Roman Catholic” is an oxymoron. It was coined by those who wanted to marginalize the Catholic Church. It gained most of its popularity in post-reformation England, along with terms like “papist” “popery” and “Romanism.” Over the centuries that followed the reformation, the term “Roman Catholic” lost much of its original pejorative meaning and many Catholics now refer to themselves as Roman Catholic because of the splintered nature of the post reformation Church. To clarify - we believe that the highest earthly authority for the Catholic Church is the successor to Peter - the bishop of Rome (who resides just outside of the city limits in Vatican City). But we believe the Church is universal in nature, with Christ as its head.The Catholic church is centered in Rome is it not? The Vatican is in Rome is it not? You can do better than that I would hope.