No I’m not kidding, and GROW UP!Youre kidding right? What have you proved? You just try to piggy back other people…you are way out of your league…go to bed.
No I’m not kidding, and GROW UP!
You’re acting younger than me! And I’m 15!
I have proved that you are the one bashing and OTCA is the one defending.
Why did I have to spell it out for you? You’re 43!
You are the one out of your league. Now go have fun looking at Uranus.
Oh, wait it was Jupiter I think. My bad!
No one is ever out of their league when it comes to defending their faith.
- did I call it or what…go to bed kid. Like I said, youre out of your league. Do yourself a favor, read your Bible, youre still young…you can find Christ and the Truth…
LOL youre funny kid. Wow, no support in a Catholic forum…well thats a newsflash! I admire your tenacity at such a young age…at your age I thought like you…you will see the Truth in time.No one is ever out of their league when it comes to defending their faith.
Is telling me to go to bed your way of shutting me up? Good luck.
Am I young? Yes.
Am I to young to discover the truth? No.
I have already found the truth, Avenger. The truth lies with the Church.
Take a look around. How much support are you getting here? NONE
What are the people saying about you? “He’s crazy”.
Your out of your league, man.
Take a rest old man. You need it.
Don’t play me down because I’m younger than you.LOL youre funny kid. Wow, no support in a Catholic forum…well thats a newsflash! I cant work over a kid, so go on your way.
Kid, this is beyond you…and you have already been found lacking…I admire the tenacity, but let it go.Don’t play me down because I’m younger than you.
I can take you on. Let’s go. I can refute any argument you have. I’ve gone up against anti-Catholics 10 times harder than you.
I want to see you try and beat me.
Trying to shut me up? That’s low.Kid, this is beyond you…and you have already been found lacking…I admire the tenacity, but let it go.
kid, Im not getting into this with you…suffice it to say that you need to re-read what you posted to see your lack of substance…really, let this go. I wont entertain a debate with a child.Trying to shut me up? That’s low.
Are you afraid of losing to a 15 year old?
Please, show me where I am lacking. I’m dying to know.
So you lose?kid, Im not getting into this with you…suffice it to say that you need to re-read what you posted to see your lack of substance…really, let this go. I wont entertain a debate with a child.
Congrats Cool Dude… I would take it that way… nothing Avenger has said in the last 2 pages has made a whit of sense… so YES I would definitely say you won that round…So you lose?
Avenger,You wrote:
"“I will tell you this if it were not for the Early Church Fathers who were CATHOLICS who WROTE the SCRIPTURES 300 years or so after Jesus went to Heaven…”
So which is it? Or you cant keep you nonsense straight?
Nothing to hide …no denomination to claim…Ive spent all day responding to diatribe as this all day, wont do it again hereAvenger,
Reading your posts is just mind-boggling. First of all, you come into a Catholic forum showing NO CHARITY whatsoever. There have been protestants in this forum before that are warm, caring, very Bible-literate, and genuine in their beliefs. But the difference is, they’re respectful of our beliefs and want a good, solid, real debate. You come in here insulting Catholics right and left with accusations of ludicrous stoicism and blatant disregard for the scriptures. I find those remarks insulting and ignorant.
Our faith in not innovative, as you’d like to pretend or suppose. Christ established ONE Church on this earth and He charged Peter with its governance. That governance is assured error-free and is directed from the holy spirit. Our faith has not changed but only grown in the various devotions and insights of our myriad of saints, theologians, and geniuses like Augustine, Aquinas, John Paul II and our current pope.
Our faith is sacramental, charitable, kind, and holy. Our faith is honest not giving people an empty promise of salvation through simple intellectual assent to faith. You make the silly charge that our Church teaches works as salvific. You obviously haven’t read the catechism but heard all this off of some lunatic anti-Catholic website. Our religion is based on works plus faith. If you can’t see Christ admonishing us to do good works and live our faith right and left in the Gospels, then you’re the one in need of Bible study.
You also don’t place your denomination in your profile…something to hide?
The Church came before the scriptures were even written and long before the cannon was finalized. The early church fathers, whom you seem NOT to respect, give us much insight into what the early church looked like. It was sacramental, episcopal in structure, had a firm faith in the Eucharist and the real presence therein, believed in the intercessions of the saints and Mary, and was definitely NOT a sola scriptura bible study group like you’d like to believe.
Now maybe you think you’re going to get brownie points with your pastor or even God by coming in here and blasting us lowly Catholics with your ‘enlightened’ Bible wizardry that you learned on an internet study coarse or at Holy Harvest Reformed First Church of God down the street, but you’re not impressing anyone. You’re also not winning followers or converts by treating people with rampant disrespect and condescention. You’re behaving like an angry troll on a forum for Catholics.
If you want to debate, do it with civility and kindness. But if all you have is insults and the tired and corny “you Catholics don’t read the bible!” boloney, give us all a break!
Now hold on here a minute. None of you can show a shread of evidence that the Roman Catholic church was the Early Church. I can see him pressing any and all of you for the information and all you can do is be strength in numbers upon one Protestant. But not one of you has answers; it’s just more of the same lame arguments about being ignorant of Catholic faith and so on and so on. Put your money where your mouth is if you are expecting everyone else to.Avenger,
Reading your posts is just mind-boggling. First of all, you come into a Catholic forum showing NO CHARITY whatsoever. There have been protestants in this forum before that are warm, caring, very Bible-literate, and genuine in their beliefs. But the difference is, they’re respectful of our beliefs and want a good, solid, real debate. You come in here insulting Catholics right and left with accusations of ludicrous stoicism and blatant disregard for the scriptures. I find those remarks insulting and ignorant.
Our faith in not innovative, as you’d like to pretend or suppose. Christ established ONE Church on this earth and He charged Peter with its governance. That governance is assured error-free and is directed from the holy spirit. Our faith has not changed but only grown in the various devotions and insights of our myriad of saints, theologians, and geniuses like Augustine, Aquinas, John Paul II and our current pope.
Our faith is sacramental, charitable, kind, and holy. Our faith is honest not giving people an empty promise of salvation through simple intellectual assent to faith. You make the silly charge that our Church teaches works as salvific. You obviously haven’t read the catechism but heard all this off of some lunatic anti-Catholic website. Our religion is based on works plus faith. If you can’t see Christ admonishing us to do good works and live our faith right and left in the Gospels, then you’re the one in need of Bible study.
You also don’t place your denomination in your profile…something to hide?
The Church came before the scriptures were even written and long before the cannon was finalized. The early church fathers, whom you seem NOT to respect, give us much insight into what the early church looked like. It was sacramental, episcopal in structure, had a firm faith in the Eucharist and the real presence therein, believed in the intercessions of the saints and Mary, and was definitely NOT a sola scriptura bible study group like you’d like to believe.
Now maybe you think you’re going to get brownie points with your pastor or even God by coming in here and blasting us lowly Catholics with your ‘enlightened’ Bible wizardry that you learned on an internet study coarse or at Holy Harvest Reformed First Church of God down the street, but you’re not impressing anyone. You’re also not winning followers or converts by treating people with rampant disrespect and condescention. You’re behaving like an angry troll on a forum for Catholics.
If you want to debate, do it with civility and kindness. But if all you have is insults and the tired and corny “you Catholics don’t read the bible!” boloney, give us all a break!
just pick up a bible and one will find out that you are indeed correct…how else would you been able to know that the bible you just picked up is indeed the word of God.Which Church is God’s true Church, and why? Is it the Roman Catholic Church?
I believe that it is the Roman Catholic Church.
What are your thoughts? Please support your opinions with facts. I will provide information, which all goes to support the fact that the Roman Catholic Church is the true Church, founded by Jesus Christ and the Church that God intended for all men…
OMG…thank you!!! I thought it was me…Now hold on here a minute. None of you can show a shread of evidence that the Roman Catholic church was the Early Church. I can see him pressing any and all of you for the information and all you can do is be strength in numbers upon one Protestant. But not one of you has answer; it’s just more of the same lame arguments about being ignorant of Catholic faith and so on and so on. Put your money where your mouth is if you are expecting everyone else to.
With all due respect… can any other Church trace their line all the way back to the apostles? Or can any other church lay claim to publishing and guarding the writings of the ECF’s? Historically we can prove both…Now hold on here a minute. None of you can show a shread of evidence that the Roman Catholic church was the Early Church. I can see him pressing any and all of you for the information and all you can do is be strength in numbers upon one Protestant. But not one of you has answers; it’s just more of the same lame arguments about being ignorant of Catholic faith and so on and so on. Put your money where your mouth is if you are expecting everyone else to.
Yes, absolutely we can indeed prove that the Roman Catholic Church is in line with the early church.Now hold on here a minute. None of you can show a shread of evidence that the Roman Catholic church was the Early Church. I can see him pressing any and all of you for the information and all you can do is be strength in numbers upon one Protestant. But not one of you has answers; it’s just more of the same lame arguments about being ignorant of Catholic faith and so on and so on. Put your money where your mouth is if you are expecting everyone else to.
Hi Blest,nice post gurneyhalleck1… haven’t seen you around lately… how ya doin?