No we are quite close,? I dont accept the sin, but the person, you judge wrongly he has been through a lot of his own struggles and he has disabilities of asperian nature from his trauma with his brain tumor at five and got help for his anger issues, have you got help for your anger issues?
CJ,
Your behavior is influenced directly by your thinking/feeling and believing and your behavior and speaking can influence and cause you to think/feel and believe differently.
My son 29 had cancer at five and this trauma perpetuated lack of friendships and his SSA. He is slowly realizing about the world, but for that one problem with his SSA, he thinks it’s not wrong. He also knows that he wasn’t born that way, he doesn’t push that anymore. He tried that course too because he thinks he always was attracted to males. which when he goes over it, it seems it was around nine and really no memory before that. After the trauma. The attractions that he calls, were not sexual in nature, which he confused in his memory.
I agree:thumbsup:
Speak,My son 29 had cancer at five and this trauma perpetuated lack of friendships and his SSA. He is slowly realizing about the world, but for that one problem with his SSA, **he thinks it’s not wrong. ** He also knows that he wasn’t born that way, he doesn’t push that anymore. He tried that course too because he thinks he always was attracted to males. which when he goes over it, it seems it was around nine and really no memory before that. After the trauma. The attractions that he calls, were not sexual in nature, which he confused in his memory.
My son didn’t have the common problem with SSA, loss of father figure, mother that was overbearing. Other than the cancer, he had a good childhood within our family. It brought us even closer. For a long time I was confused, what I found out from experience, medical traumas are of a different nature toward the symptom of SSA. But still the same affect. Rejection of peers. Biggest factor. He was more sensitive and could not be athletic. Kids were cruel and was left out, no friends. More added to the problems. SSA is the symptom of many problems with the end result. Rejection that lead to the longing of being accepted. They confused sexuality for the person. Thanks to the activists that are confusing more and more people.
My son also discovered he **had anger issues **too with some Asperger traits because of his inability to see things clearly and get along with people at work., stemming from his radiations from Chemo, which he knew he has some disability, but this was intensifying as he was getting older. It started to really bother him so he got some help for that specific issue. He has improved, but still has to deal with the other issues that brought this SSA. Unfortunately most therapists are liberal and will not discourage the homosexual life as part of the problem.
Fortunately for his Asperian problems he isn’t living the lifestyle, by acting out. He already knows from experience not to** trust **people who pretend to be friends just because they have SSA. He is realizing the truth that his family is the most important thing that has always been there for him and loves him. He does believe in God. Thats a moving in the right direction. Living of life for God has been working for us, he sees that working in our lives because we came back to our faith because of this crisis and I thank God for that. Still more work to do.
These are my experiences and knowlege that I have learned as a parent and as a member of a support group of many parents that are fighting for the souls and the lives of their loved ones with Same Sex Attraction and are trying to live a holy life.
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Hope this helps I could write more, but it would be a novel.
God bless
Interestingly the thread that I recalled you mentioning your son taking your advice to go to reparative therapy and him leaving with his boyfriend has been edited by the moderator because it no longer applies anymore.
Dakota,
Fact is that no one can say what causes homosexual activity. We just have to deal with it as it is. When I was in college many decades ago, when it was outlawed, mu psychology professor came up with an interesting comment: Every child is “homosexual” until he/she reaches puberty, but then they discover the other sex. most people do, and when they do they find that that other sex is very hard to figure out. Boys are rather simple. They “love” with their penises. They can often satisfy their sexual desires by themselves. If they feel the need to partner to form a sexual relationship, however, they discovered this is very hard to do with most girls. That’s in part because girls “love”with their whole bodies. Now a boy or a girl will often find someone of their own sex attractive.Maybe because they want to be that person’s friend, or because they simply see him or her as a kind of reflection of themselves as they are or wish they were. Most of the time, that goes only so far, because people do understand the basic biological facts. But suppose they cross the line and get involved. Once they have done it, then it is harder to get back across the line. And because it is easier to “get along with another girl or boy then with those of the opposite sex, then why make the effort? In short, inclination leads to habit, and habits are hard to break.
As opposed to what, melancholia making one feel absolutely chipper which would seem a contradiction in principle.Dakota,
Anger is an emotion. Melancholia is an emotion. To say you are prone is to say it bothers you. Many people do not understand emotions and when they are understood they are nothing more than part of who we are and how we live. They are catalysts for change or signs along the highway saying dip ahead…but the journey continues.
DR,
Your recall is incorrect… Please get some help with your anger. I will pray for you.
Then what exactly was edited out by the moderators?
Are you talking about my one infraction over 2 years ago? A couple of words were deleted in the whole post, like it’s lie, referring to homosexuality be an inborn trait and I think I said go learn your faith at the end. I can’t remember exactly. I guess it was how I said it. I was a new member and obviously someone didn’t like it. I thought it was ridiculous, but I am more careful how I phrase things. My son was never mentioned. Other than that I don’t know what your talking about and why you need to know.
That always seemed pretty Muslim to me. Doesn’t Islam teach intents and thoughts really aren’t important but the actions are?
Dakota,
We may have some definitional issues here, as to exactly what do we mean by, or is the “scope” of, the word homsexuality.
I don’t think SSA is a choice either. I don’t think heterosexual pedophilia is a choice either. I very much doubt either are genetically heritable too.
Why is the distinction so hard to grasp? Everyone has inclinations not ordered correctly. Those disordered inclinations are not sins. Acting on them is a sin. Taking pleasure in immoral thoughts are a sin. How is that different from any other temptations?