Which Homosexuals Are "Incurable"?

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Whether we be homosexual or heterosexual we are not permitted to sin.

The Bible doesn’t allow for fornication or sodomy.

The World tells us that homosexuals have no other choice but to continue to sin.

The World says that Teens will have sex and can’t be talked out of sin.

Of course, this line of thinking doesn’t consider moral teaching and abstinence.

Lust of all types can have deadly or ruinous consequences.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Why do so few people get this?? I wasn’t brought to a realization that I needed to change my lifestyle by people telling me how “disordered” I was or how big a sinner I was, and how my sin was the worst sin in the universe, outranking all other sins that I knew darn well the people lecturing me either engaged in or condoned with silence. The people who did that probably extended my time away from God.

I ended my 10 year relationship, committed to a celibate life and returned to the Church because of people that loved me first. They showed me unconditional love, which allowed me to understand the unconditional love of God.

I get it, it’s good to have that “worse sinner” around so that no matter what you do you can point to how much worse they are…but if the real goal is to lead everyone to God that isn’t going to help.
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Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone come back to the Church because some called them sick, vile or a slave of Satan.
 
Dakota_Roberts said:
Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone come back to the Church because some called them sick, vile or a slave of Satan.
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Dakota,

I agree.

I also believe that the individual makes changes not based on what they may hear from others rather other than that.
 
CopticChristian said:
Dakota,

I agree.

I also believe that the individual makes changes not based on what they may hear from others rather other than that.
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Being called disgusting, evil and sick drives people away and causes people to tune them out.
 
Coptic,
Kolbe300 said:
The piece you provided says that this gay-to-straight type of therapy helps reduce “symptoms” in 30% of cases. And “symptoms” disappear in another 30% of cases. I’m not exactly sure what a reduction in symptoms really means. If one is still attracted to the same sex, but a little less so, they’re still attracted to the same sex. I’ll leave the explaining of that up to those who have experienced it.

Here’s the question I have: If 30% of gay men who seek this therapy discover complete change in their sexual orientation (according to what you posted), that leaves 70% who don’t. In other words, the overwhelming majority.

What should we do for them? If most of the men who undergo therapy don’t come out heterosexual, what should we tell them? Do we tell them they didn’t work hard enough at it? Do we tell them to keep going until they’re one of the 30%?

Or can we tell them that there is a place in our Church fit for them? Can we tell them that a beautiful life can be lived, even for a homosexual person? I can do that. I can tell them that with ease. Can you? Are you even willing to try?
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