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Righteousone
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Huh??
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LaMar
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Did you forget what you wrote? Here it is:Huh??
That is because Catholics are content in what they believe. they don’t have to be in your face.
Same thing with Mormons, Muslims and Jews in my community too. They’re all content with what they believe also, and none of them gets into my face either.
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Jerusha
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Agreed. Again. This is getting scary.
I have never met any that were evil, and only one incident where one tried to push his religion on another person, and his friends apologized for his behavior.One problem in the US is that some people think that constitutional protection of religion means that people can do anything they want in the name of religion.:bigyikes: While Native Americans were granted religious freedom only fairly recently, as things go.
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Jerusha
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See Rebecca’s post. Your experience and information is very limited. They also have a tradition of meting revenge on the descendants “unto the third and fourth generation” of people who were “on the other side” of the Nauvoo war in 1844-1849. And murder, rape, and theft were the issues then. FLDS is a retrospective time capsule.
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luvlife
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I don’t worry about Mormon terroists. I can’t say the same about Muslims.
I don’t think there is any comparision whatsoever. While I disagree with their theology, I totally admire their morals. Plus there are the Osmonds. Love them. And Utah - how clean, safe & pretty is it?
I don’t think there is any comparision whatsoever. While I disagree with their theology, I totally admire their morals. Plus there are the Osmonds. Love them. And Utah - how clean, safe & pretty is it?
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inJESUS
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If we want to talk about the “fruit”, i’d say Mormonism is way much better. If we want to talk about the source of inspiration or method of revelation, they are the same : based on the claims of one man who claimed being visited by an angel resulting in giving a different book. So i’d say they are the same but the fruit goes to Mormons.
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Jerusha
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You are lucky. Two of my g’g grandparents were in Western Illinois in 1844. When I got to the relatively Mormon-free area I am in now, people thought I was joking when I called myself a refugee.
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LaMar
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We might be cousins.You are lucky. Two of my g’g grandparents were in Western Illinois in 1844. When I got to the relatively Mormon-free area I am in now, people thought I was joking when I called myself a refugee.
I call myself a refugee too. Every time I go back to St. George I gain new admiration for myself, for managing to leave the joint. Though it’s nowhere near as looney as it used to be. All those moderates from California have had a great impact on the place.
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LaMar
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I think Islam has contributed a great deal to the world, in the context of science and astronomy and medicine.
Whenever my fellow Mormons try to play the chauvinism card, and puff out their chests and claim they’re better than others, I always feel a little bit spooked. There is good in all peoples, and while we all have things to feel proud about, we should also acknowledge the great contributions of others.
The world would be a lesser place without Muslims, just like it would be less interesting and enlightened without the great contributions of Catholics.
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inJESUS
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LaMar, am not questioning the contributions of Muslims. I was talking from a “peace” point of view if you compare the rise of both religions in terms of spreading the faith and killing non-believers and conquering other lands with the power of the sword. There are good and bad people everywhere but i think ideology is what must be discussed. If Mormons have in their ideology what applies to Islam, then it’d change my point. And since you are a Mormon , maybe you can elaborate on this point, which is about ideology, not about conflicts/bloodshed that might occur for one reason or the other.
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LaMar
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Apologies if I misunderstood. You seem to be raising two points here. I’ll try to answer them both.
As far as conflicts or bloodshed, I don’t see Mormons or Muslims promoting such things today (except for offshoots of both, which don’t seem to be more than an embarassment to the adherents of both).
As far as trying to spread the messages or convince outsiders that they had the “one true way”, I’d place Mormons at a much higher level of guilt for this. I have never had two young guys trying to sell me Islam on Saturday morning. Mormons have a whole program based upon trying to convince non-Mormons to join up.
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catharina
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This is especially nice for white Mormons, huh?
(They only admitted blacks a generation ago.)
BTW, I voted for Islam as the more proper religion.
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nichjake
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I voted that Mormonism is better simply because I have yet to hear of the Mormons going around killing people because they don’t have the same faith as them. Theres far too much of that in Islam.
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IvanKaramozov
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Actually it was founded by an upright and moral merchant, who later became the leader of Medina. It is not steeped in anti-Christian/Jewish thought, nor was it anti western. There is a strong anti-western sentiment now, due primairly to colonialism
That’s really totally false, as has been pointed out Mormonism has been steeped in raceism and Xenophobia, and I beleive LaMar has pointed to their violent actions.
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MelanieAnne
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I’ll say one thing for Mormons ~ I haven’t heard of any of them plowing any airplanes into any buildings and killing thousands of people.
But I agree with the poster who said that both Islam and Mormonism are non-Christian religions that draw people away from Christianity. That’s not a good thing. No matter how nice your Mormon next door neighbor might be, the theology, when you actually know the facts about it, is just way too far out. Unfortunately the weirdest part of Mormonism is hidden from prospective members.
I have known of examples, even here in heavily-populated California, where people who left Mormonism were shunned, so there is at least some cult-like behavior, which seems rather strange in the 21st century. Supposedly, shunning is not the official position of the church, but I’ve seen it repeatedly happen, so it appears to be the de facto policy, at least in some places. That’s a strike against the whole “Mormons are tolerant” idea if they cannot stomach a member leaving their church.
But I agree with the poster who said that both Islam and Mormonism are non-Christian religions that draw people away from Christianity. That’s not a good thing. No matter how nice your Mormon next door neighbor might be, the theology, when you actually know the facts about it, is just way too far out. Unfortunately the weirdest part of Mormonism is hidden from prospective members.
I have known of examples, even here in heavily-populated California, where people who left Mormonism were shunned, so there is at least some cult-like behavior, which seems rather strange in the 21st century. Supposedly, shunning is not the official position of the church, but I’ve seen it repeatedly happen, so it appears to be the de facto policy, at least in some places. That’s a strike against the whole “Mormons are tolerant” idea if they cannot stomach a member leaving their church.
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catharina
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- I agree. Mormons teach a mythology of God, ending with ‘and someday if you’re a VERY good boy, you can become God.’
- Yes, Mormons can be highly puntive with those who flee their sect.
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luvlife
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And Muslims can be highly punitive with women who venture outside without a male chaperone.
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BartBurk
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That’s not even close. Mormons believe in the resurrection and try to live by Christian values. Mormonism is better than Islam. I don’t believe modern Mormons would ever be inclined to impose a Mormon state.
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