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Penitent60
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I got the impression it was implicated with those as there was a comma missing. Thank you for clearing that up.
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whatistrue
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No comment on sarcastic, but you always seemed reasonably direct and blunt to me. Note that I in no way say or intend to imply that those are bad things.
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Jbrady
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Stunning place for a vacation. But too many tin foil hats on the locals for me to even think about living there.
I am more direct and blunt on this forum, because matters of faith and morality are at stake, and nothing less will do. My exchanges out here in the community rarely pertain to either of these things — usually just retail transactions and pleasantries with neighbors. The “Southern way” is rarely to express outright displeasure and to be polite and gently-spoken in all of your dealings, even if the state of your mind is otherwise. Some would call this phony and inauthentic, I call it a way to get through life smoothly without making enemies unnecessarily.HomeschoolDad:
No comment on sarcastic, but you always seemed reasonably direct and blunt to me. Note that I in no way say or intend to imply that those are bad things.
For reasons I’d rather not get into, I am not presently an actively engaged member of my new parish on an interpersonal level. I just go to Mass, and that’s that, it’s a larger urban parish and I really don’t “know” anyone. The church is a half-hour drive from my home.
I’ve heard many nice things, and hope to make my way up there for a visit one of these days. I do know there are a lot of various flavors of traditionalist Catholics in eastern Washington and northern Idaho, as well as other people whose politics, religion, and lifestyle skew more right-wing than the nation as a whole. Some are more extreme than others. A lot would enter into deciding to move there (or anywhere else for that matter).HomeschoolDad:
Stunning place for a vacation. But too many tin foil hats on the locals for me to even think about living there.
catholic03
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No, my mistake.
It is true that some prelates dissent from Church doctrine. However, they are very rare and hard to come across.
Some bishops are more conservative that others. I am theologically very conservative, but I do recognise that, for example, Cardinal Blase Cupich is also orthodox, even if he takes an approach different to the one I might take if I were him
In this respect, yes, some dioceses are ‘more’ liberal than others.
You are very right. Especially the bolded part. If I ever came across as saying that he doesn’t have a right to prefer the Extraordinary Form, then I was wrong and I apolgise. I would probably attend the EF regularly if I could.
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Approximately where in Georgia do you live?
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Ardent_Fire
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I grew up in Washington state so I’m giving a thumbs up to Spokane. (My brother lives there, so if you read this, please send up a prayer for him that he comes back to the Church, thank you!)
I know of a few attendees of Latin Mass that are from Texas, there is some pretty good support there. :cowboy_hat_face:
Here’s a map with some FSSP locations.
I know of a few attendees of Latin Mass that are from Texas, there is some pretty good support there. :cowboy_hat_face:
Here’s a map with some FSSP locations.
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Oh, I am intimately familiar with that way. Born in TN, a short stay in FL as a preschooler, GA until joining the Navy, and either stationed or living in MD, TN, VA, and GA except for a few months in CA and a few years in WA and Japan. So basically Southern born and bred.
It is a very beautiful and pleasant way of life, as long as you don’t challenge people’s basic assumptions, but that much would be true anywhere — there aren’t many people who go through life saying “I may not have all the answers, or I might just be dead wrong about this or that, I would really welcome it, if someone were to come along one of these days, challenge me, and improve me”.HomeschoolDad:
Oh, I am intimately familiar with that way. Born in TN, a short stay in FL as a preschooler, GA until joining the Navy, and either stationed or living in MD, TN, VA, and GA except for a few months in CA and a few years in WA and Japan. So basically Southern born and bred.
Also, in the South, there is the unspoken assumption that unpleasantness, sadness, or personal adversity need to be kept to oneself — “don’t get your ‘sad cooties’ on me!”. Very close friends may wish to share your burdens, but more casual acquaintances just want to hear the good stuff.
blackforest
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They’ve reached a compromise in my area whereby there’s a Latin Mass offered monthly at a particular parish. It’s well attended, and the people who so desire get their Latin Mass fix, but the OF vernacular Masses remain well-attended.
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OrbisNonSufficit
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Per canon law that is abuse of power by Bishop and would not go too well with Vatican. If Bishop would prohibit celebrating Versus Populum Masses, it would be similar stuff. Not the same though, because current Rite of Mass is built upon being served Ad Orientem. Hence if someone outlaws Versus Populum, he is denying Priests rightful choice they are presented. If someone outlaws Ad Orientem, he is denying normative structure of the Mass as presented by Paul VI and Vatican II, therefore putting himself above Ecumenical Council and Pope who became Saint.
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Not getting along seems a given
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phil19034
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100% true. But I was taking the position that an altar rail can be installed inexpensively, esp of made from prefabricate wood or a metal gate.
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Who is “they”? Why only monthly (which is better than never)? Does the priest travel from another location or assigned to a different parish? Just curious.phil19034:
They’ve reached a compromise in my area whereby there’s a Latin Mass offered monthly at a particular parish. It’s well attended, and the people who so desire get their Latin Mass fix, but the OF vernacular Masses remain well-attended.
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blackforest
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I’m pretty sure you know who makes these decisions, the Diocese.
I haven’t asked why, by I’m guessing that it’s for the very reason you cited upthread.A new, regular TLM may siphon off parishioners from elsewhere.
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Angel_Bradford
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St. Joseph’s in Macon offers the TLM.
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phil19034
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Well… sometimes the “they” are the local parish and the group asking for the mass. I just wanted to make sure I was understandingphil19034:
I’m pretty sure you know who makes these decisions, the Diocese.
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Minks
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What you say may be true for your country, but please keep in mind that your experience is limited to a fairly small country—tiny, in fact, compared to the US—and upholding the same Apostolic doctrines can mean wide disparity in other aspects of parish life. The United States is many, many times larger, and the sizes of the diocesan jurisdictions vary widely in geography, population numbers and makeup, as well as in the personal preferences of the bishops.
Despite what your experience may be, some bishops are not friendly toward anything to do with the Latin Mass, nor with accommodating parishioners who are so inclined. At least one has forbidden it. Of those who “allow” a Mass that is supposed to be of equal value, it would be interesting to compare the Mass times and distances apart from where the Masses are scheduled. Failure hoops appear to be built into the schedules of many of them.
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catholic03
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Actually, there isn’t Latin Mass in my Archdiocese. I want to attend but am unable to.
Some of my comments were uncalled for.
Some of my comments were uncalled for.
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