White House Fails to Call Catholic Bishops for Mandate Talks

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Despite rumors of a compromise on the government’s controversial contraception mandate, the White House has not offered any concessions to the U.S. bishops’ conference and has not contacted them about possible negotiations.

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Obama will not back down, at least I don’t think so. It is a liberals dream to tell a religious community how to operate and what to believe. It’s State running the Church. That is liberalism 101.
 
I saw an interview with Obama on one the news programs. He actually said that the forefathers through the constitution, created “obstacles” that have made it very difficult for him(Obama)to accomplish everything he wants to do in order to change this country according to his vision.He also stated that he is very persistent,which is why he need another four years to get things done.(this is more or less the gist of the interview,not verbatim)😦
 
Jeanne_S said:
I saw an interview with Obama on one the news programs. He actually said that the forefathers through the constitution, created “obstacles” that have made it very difficult for him(Obama)to accomplish everything he wants to do in order to change this country according to his vision.He also stated that he is very persistent,which is why he need another four years to get things done.(this is more or less the gist of the interview,not verbatim)😦
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Do you recall what interview this was?

All these promises of “working it out” are meaningless if not backed up by action, which there is no indication that any action supports the claim. It’s all just their way of keeping critics at bay until most people forget about the issue and move on to something else. I hope our attention spans hold up to this one. Our bishops seem poised to keep this issue at the forefront.
 
Catholic_Press said:
Despite rumors of a compromise on the government’s controversial contraception mandate, the White House has not offered any concessions to the U.S. bishops’ conference and has not contacted them about possible negotiations.
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What could there possibly be left to negotiate?
 
Folks,

As I have now placed these thoughts in my signature:

Pliticians will not pay any real attention to Catholics, since the majority of Catholics have for decades ignored their own faith.

In general, Catholics are not serious people of faith, and politicians know that.

The country will follow a path that the Catholic Church, and lay Catholics, define and live. Catholics have let down themselves and this nation, and therefore the world at large.

We are to blame–not the politicians.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Do you recall what interview this was?

All these promises of “working it out” are meaningless if not backed up by action, which there is no indication that any action supports the claim. It’s all just their way of keeping critics at bay until most people forget about the issue and move on to something else. I hope our attention spans hold up to this one. Our bishops seem poised to keep this issue at the forefront.
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. It was the interview broadcast on NBC before the superbowl.
 
irishpatrick said:
Folks,

As I have now placed these thoughts in my signature:

Pliticians will not pay any real attention to Catholics, since the majority of Catholics have for decades ignored their own faith.

In general, Catholics are not serious people of faith, and politicians know that.

The country will follow a path that the Catholic Church, and lay Catholics, define and live. Catholics have let down themselves and this nation, and therefore the world at large.

We are to blame–not the politicians.
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It is so sad. But we should change that, starting from ourselves. There is a saying, " a spark of fire can burn the entire planet". It takes great effort on each of us, but it is never too late. There is still a remnant.
 
InLight247 said:
It is so sad. But we should change that, starting from ourselves. There is a saying, " a spark of fire can burn the entire planet". It takes great effort on each of us, but it is never too late. There is still a remnant.
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Yes, God always leaves a remnant, but that does not mean the remnant will have an easy time.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Do you recall what interview this was?

All these promises of “working it out” are meaningless if not backed up by action, which there is no indication that any action supports the claim. It’s all just their way of keeping critics at bay until most people forget about the issue and move on to something else. I hope our attention spans hold up to this one. Our bishops seem poised to keep this issue at the forefront.
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It won’t matter. Catholics are not going to stop contracepting, which means most will not see these things as a problem. In fact, they will it is good because they will get their contraception free.
 
irishpatrick said:
It won’t matter. Catholics are not going to stop contracepting, which means most will not see these things as a problem. In fact, they will it is good because they will get their contraception free.
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That sounds rather like “they came for the Jews, but I’m not a Jew, so I didn’t care.”
 
Jeanne_S said:
I saw an interview with Obama on one the news programs. He actually said that the forefathers through the constitution, created “obstacles” that have made it very difficult for him(Obama)to accomplish everything he wants to do in order to change this country according to his vision.He also stated that he is very persistent,which is why he need another four years to get things done.(this is more or less the gist of the interview,not verbatim)😦
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I didn’t see the interview. From that description, it sounds like he views the Constitution as just another obstacle to be overcome.
 
irishpatrick said:
It won’t matter. Catholics are not going to stop contracepting, which means most will not see these things as a problem. In fact, they will it is good because they will get their contraception free.
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This is all too sadly very true. And might I add, they will NOT hear from the pulpit that contracepting is against Church doctrine. A heartbreaking situation all and all.

***But…this is not only about contracepting or reproductive “rights”…this is as much about freedom of religion as it is about anything! ***

Remember the words of Cardinal to be Dolan***…If they win on this issue I shudder to think “what’s next?” (not verbatim of course:))***
p.s. Love the signature line…👍
 
This is only the beginning.
What the Obama administration has done by demanding that Catholic non-profits provide coverage for abortion-inducing drugs is to put the camel’s nose in the tent—the slippery slope has been stepped on mandating that Catholic hospitals perform abortions.
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Catholic League President Bill Donohue
catholicleague.org/obama-pushed-us-too-far/
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Then will come the mandate for the Church to perform SS"M".
 
JimG said:
I didn’t see the interview. From that description, it sounds like he views the Constitution as just another obstacle to be overcome.
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And to this I might add there have already been smatterings in the news about how “out of date” the Constitution is and how we need to overhaul it.:hmmm: But I do think there needs to be a large majority to change anything…can’t recall the number.
 
Teelynn said:
And to this I might add there have already been smatterings in the news about how “out of date” the Constitution is and how we need to overhaul it.:hmmm: But I do think there needs to be a large majority to change anything…can’t recall the number.
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The constitution is being overhauled every time it hands down an opinion. The majority needed to change something is a mere 5 votes on the court. Not exactly what was intended by the constitution.
 
I’m not sure if anyone else’s diocese has done the same thing, but I just thought I would share the letter that was found in our bulletin Sunday from our Diocese.

Diocese of Lansing Responds to HHS Mandate

These past days have seen a grave error on the part of the federal government, as well as a blessed response from Catholics all across this great state and nation.

By now, all men and women of faith know that the United States Department of Health and Human Services has declared that health benefit plans must include coverage for sterilization, contraception, and abortion-inducing drugs. This unconstitutional and unconscionable mandate is to take effect in stages during 2012 and 2013.

The Catholic Church in the United States will never comply with this mandate. Told that the federal government has allowed a one-year grace period during which the Church can adjust itself to this mandate, Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan of the Archdiocese of New York responded that the Church does not need a year to determine whether it would comply. He is right. In offering this supposed mandate, the Federal government misreads the Constitution of the United States. It equally misreads the determination of Catholics.

This nation is built upon the three-legged stool of the First Amendment. Our precious freedoms of religion, speech, and assembly underlie everything this nation is, and everything this nation has ever accomplished. Religious liberty gives the freedom to preach the Truth. And the truth is that pregnancy is not a disease. Nor is the natural fertility of a woman a disease. Through the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Michigan Catholic Conference, we are exploring a number of options, including litigation and Congressional reform. As these efforts move forward, Catholics should make clear to their elected officials the crucial importance of religious liberty, and they should pray daily for those who have the responsibility for making these decisions.
 
Did some digging…

Marquette University provides contraception with a co-pay…

Whats up with that? 🤷
 
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