Who are the enemies of the Church?

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Satan and those who follow him. More so, those who follow him willingly.
 
Tough luck that God and his angels do not SEEM to care about the “enemy”. God could wipe out the enemy… allegedly, but he does not SEEM to care. Maybe the story of Job is true (horrifying as it may be). God and the Adversary are bosom buddies, sipping mead on the clouds, making “bets” and having a good laugh at our expense. 🙂 (Or should I say… at YOUR expense?)

Why should anyone “hate” the church? Maybe some previous members of the church are so dissatisfied with the church, that they actually “hate” it.** But don’t worry. Most people simply do not care about the church and the teachings.**
And you are here to talk about it because…
🤷 ?

You do care evidently. It’s a good thing.
 
Freemasons,ISIS,planned parenthood,liberal political leaders such as Hilary Clinton along with sedevacantists.

Lastly modernist Catholics who refuse to follow the Church and Her infallible teachings on Faith and morals.

Most importantly every single one of those groups are lead by Satan and these people choose to disobey out of ether ignorance or hatred for Christ
Absolutely! Such evil in the world.
 
And you are here to talk about it because…
🤷 ?

You do care evidently. It’s a good thing.
I care about your mental health. After all, not every atheist eats children for breakfast. 🙂 A few of us can care about others. Your kind of “persecution complex” is very unhealthy. Are there demonstrations demanding to destroy the churches in the “librul” states? Are there death threats against the bishops and priests? Does anyone plan a “reverse crusade”? Admittedly there are a few deranged people (like Ali Agca) who tried to kill Pope John Paul II, but that is not the sign of a “vast left wing conspiracy” to bring down the church.

You are under a serious denial. It is not that outsiders want to destroy the church itself, they simply do not accept a part of the church’s teachings, and they have the “audacity” to voice their disagreement. I am also talking about the internal dissenters, the heretics, the Cafeteria Catholics, the CINO-s, not just the protestants, the followers of Islam or the Buddhists, etc… And it is always easier to look for an external scapegoat, instead of self-examination, which would lead to the result that certain teachings of the church are simply obsolete, they are summarily discarded as inapplicable today. Of course that would be hard to admit. It takes a lot of intellectual honesty to admit that one was wrong.

Moreover, I can’t emphasize strongly enough, that obviously God does not care. There is no sign of an escalated fight against the Devil and its minions. If God does not care, why should you? Don’t you remember that “eventually” the church will be victorious? All the few dozen members of it? 😉

Of course the reason is obvious for this persecution complex. It “feels good” to imagine that you are “persecuted”. If gives a warm, fuzzy feeling that “you are important”. Don’t delude yourself. Most of the Catholics are welcomed with open arms. It is the antiquated teaching of sexual behavior which rubs people in the wrong way.

Best wishes.
 
I care about your mental health. After all, not every atheist eats children for breakfast. 🙂 A few of us can care about others. Your kind of “persecution complex” is very unhealthy.
The irony is striking . Persecution complex indeed:
Here is your post, and my response to it, since you’re talking about unhealthy persecution complexes…
Originally Posted by Solmyr View Post
Tough luck that God and his angels do not SEEM to care about the “enemy”. God could wipe out the enemy… allegedly, but he does not SEEM to care. Maybe the story of Job is true (horrifying as it may be). God and the Adversary are bosom buddies, sipping mead on the clouds, making “bets” and having a good laugh at our expense. (Or should I say… at YOUR expense?)
Why should anyone “hate” the church? Maybe some previous members of the church are so dissatisfied with the church, that they actually “hate” it. But don’t worry. Most people simply do not care about the church and the teachings.
And you are here to talk about it because…
🤷 ?

You do care evidently. It’s a good thing.
I’m glad you’re one of those who do care about the Church and her teachings enough to be here day after day to discuss it all with us.
What was it you were saying about persecution complexes?
 
I think socialists and the Illuminati are the main enemies of the Church along with extremist Muslims.
Don’t forget the reptilians that run the Illuminati. They’re harvesting Earth’s gold to inject into themselves like some bizarre drug in order to boost their nervous system. They’re also responsible for atheism.
 
Don’t forget the reptilians that run the Illuminati. They’re harvesting Earth’s gold to inject into themselves like some bizarre drug in order to boost their nervous system. They’re also responsible for atheism.
Are the present day illuminati groups in any way linked to the original Bavarian illuminati?
 
I am looking more for people or groups who are deliberate enemies of the Church. Certainly though you do raise some good points, dissenting Catholics bring down the Church. But why are they dissenting?
Mostly it’s because of things that have to do with the pelvic region.

They want to do what they want to do.

But, of course, any examination of ANY human activity demonstrates that: doing whatever we want to do, when we want to do it, with whomever we want to do it with, and thwarting the natural consequences of this activity…ends up with humans who are really, really miserable.
 
I can see that. And as many Catholics she can drag into her religion the better. If opposed, fines will be delt. She and Sanders have the media who is not a friend of the Church on their side. The media twists everything the Church says to their own agenda.

The media and politicians continues to primote divide and conquir techniques. For instance they get people motivated by luring on racism, sexism, gender, class, same sex attraction. The Bernie Sanders Democrat Sicialist party preys in that non sense. While racism does happen they blow it up by a few events or a select few firing people up.

We can fight back which plays into their hands and causes more if a stir which is precisly what they want.

We can sit back and try not to feed into it but then they continuento pass laws that hurt humanity, women, and families.

So what do we do? Who else and what other techniques do the enemies if the Church have?
Absolutely! The media and the government come hand in hand. In every country there no friend of the church.
 
Allow me to praise you, O Sacred Virgin. Give me strength against your enemies. Amen.

Faced with such grievous attacks by the enemies of the Church of God, are we allowed to sit still?…
The purpose of the Militia of the Immaculata has set forth for itself is the conquest of hearts over to her; she will do the rest. In their folly and wickedness, unfortunate people raise their hand against our most Gracious Father to satisfy their cravings and grasp fleeting semblances of happiness. If we let them either do or bear at least something, even the smallest thing for her, a breach will have already been made; by then she will be entitled to take gentle and gradual possession of their hearts, to lay them in the burning heart of Jesus and make them happy. Out of love toward the wicked, we persecute all their wicked actions with all the energy we are capable of. We turn their hearts to the Immaculata by prayer and sacrifice and, at our own personal expense, subject their souls to her. They shall be infinitely grateful to us even on this earth. I myself have experienced this more than once: whoever makes one of these souls happy will have its wholehearted gratitude in return.
~Saint Maximilian
The Writings of St. Maximilian Maria Kolbe Volumes I and II, 2016 - Nerbini International

Let us pray to the Immaculata fervently, to obtain for them the grace of conversion, before God’s punishing hand begins to weigh on them.
 
Wow, lots of fear, demonizing and very scary us vs them imagery in this thread.
 
I think you would like to see it that way, but there’s been some good discussion here.
Good discussion like comparing Hillary Clinton, atheism and planned parenthood to Isis and Satan?
 
Good discussion like comparing Hillary Clinton, atheism and planned parenthood to Isis and Satan?
Oh, geez. Now this is a bit, ironically, alarmist.

All the thread has done is examined who the enemies of the Church are.

Some made a list and included Hillary and Isis and Satan.

If you don’t agree that she should be on this list, then offer your arguments why.

 
Grace & Peace!
All the thread has done is examined who the enemies of the Church are.
PR, this is precisely the problem. Making lists of your enemies is not the work of Christian charity, it is the work of the Adversary.

It doesn’t matter who the supposed enemies of the church are. What matters is what we do about the patterns of enmity, violence and death in our own lives that oppose us to the God who, when we were enemies of grace and dead in our sins, graciously loved us and gave us his own life.

Suppose the Masons are, in fact, opposed to the church. Do you imagine that placing Masons on the “them” list represents more than simply the mirror image of their own rejection? What do you imagine this counter rejection participates in apart from the same spirit of division and animosity? As the philosophers used to say: “one and the same is the union of opposites.”

Under the Mercy,
Mark

All is Grace and Mercy! Deo Gratias!
 
Grace & Peace!

PR, this is precisely the problem. Making lists of your enemies is not the work of Christian charity, it is the work of the Adversary.

It doesn’t matter who the supposed enemies of the church are. What matters is what we do about the patterns of enmity, violence and death in our own lives that oppose us to the God who, when we were enemies of grace and dead in our sins, graciously loved us and gave us his own life.

Suppose the Masons are, in fact, opposed to the church. Do you imagine that placing Masons on the “them” list represents more than simply the mirror image of their own rejection? What do you imagine this counter rejection participates in apart from the same spirit of division and animosity? As the philosophers used to say: “one and the same is the union of opposites.”

Under the Mercy,
Mark

All is Grace and Mercy! Deo Gratias!
I find this post to be most peculiar.

In essence you are saying that this is a topic that should not be discussed.

I find these discussions, as long as they are charitable and thoughtful, to be quite enlightening,

I can imagine a corollary being asserted by some…men…(enemies of the Church) who ask: why don’t you ever talk about who the enemies of the Church are?

I think it’s important to entertain, discuss, digest, consider, reject or accept all sorts of questions posed about our Church, theology, ecclesiology, ideology…

no one ought to be silencing us here.
 
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