Who is considered to be a Protestant?

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Ok, but I was wondering, “which” definition out of the 4 do you want? (third time asking)

All non-Catholic Christians are Protestants.

Some Protestants are also catholic (small c).

cathoic Protestants are those who have more in common with traditional orthodox Christianity.

non-catholic Protestants are those who completely refuse to have anything to do with anything even closely related to traditional orthodox Christianity. That would be your anti-Catholics.

To sit here and go through all 34,000+ denominations would be unreasonable…so I whittled it down.

All are Christians (except the anti-Catholics).

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Catholic_Dude said:
I dont see any conflict between the two definitions you listed.

The fact is all Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura, yet each denomination has different INTERPRETATIONS of Scripture, thus Sola Scriptura is first and foremost about interpretation, and as far as I can see almost every doctrine (except the Trinity) is fair game as long as it isnt a Catholic interpretation at the end of the day.
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If you don’t see the differences, look closer. The difference is:
  • I DO NOT agree that the Bible alone can bind the conscience.
  • I do not deny that the Holy Spirit speaks independently of the Bible,
  • I do believe there is personal revelation.(God can and does speak to people individually.
    (I can go into more detail if we start a new thread)
So what I believe is VERY different than the Definition of sola scriptura that belongs with the 5 sloas.

Lots of protestants agree with many things Catholic, unless you only define protestant as “anti-Catholic.” So your assertion “as long as it isnt a Catholic interpretation at the end of the day” is not reasonable.
 
Syele said:
If you don’t see the differences, look closer. The difference is:
  • I DO NOT agree that the Bible alone can bind the conscience.
  • I do not deny that the Holy Spirit speaks independently of the Bible,
  • I do believe there is personal revelation.(God can and does speak to people individually.
    (I can go into more detail if we start a new thread)
So what I believe is VERY different than the Definition of sola scriptura that belongs with the 5 sloas.

Lots of protestants agree with many things Catholic, unless you only define protestant as “anti-Catholic.” So your assertion “as long as it isnt a Catholic interpretation at the end of the day” is not reasonable.
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No one can reasonably believe that Protestants are of a like mind (and that’s not being stated in an insulting manner, but in a matter of fact way).

The only thing that the overwhelming majority of them agree on is on “not” being Catholic.

They have different bibles, different doctrines, different levels of how much they’ve kept from Catholicism to how much they work to “not” practice anything that is remotely Catholic.

They all however disagree on Protestant issues (such as you pointed out…definitions of salvation, justification, tenets of faith, etc…).

The Protestant religion is only unified by what they protest. They are not unified by their Christianity because if Christianity was the unifying point, they’d be Catholics.

Put 2 Christians in one room and you’re still going to get 3 opinions.

Protestants differ in practice and what they do and how they worship varies.

Catholics vary only in fervor of faith, but we all believe in the same practices and worship the same way A Catholic Mass is the same in Africa as it is in Norway as it is in Japan as it is in Vatican City.

Even a fallen away Catholic will not renounce their faith formally for all the trash they might talk. That speaks volumes. Their like one 1/2 of a married couple who fight but won’t get divorced! LOL!

Protestants are like the Europe Union that spawned them. Alot of little countries each with their on leaders, but answering to not one. The only thing they share is The Euro (for them, that would be “not” being Catholic), but each country is autonamous.

Catholics are like the United States of America…each rite being like a state, all sworn to one President.
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Just look at what formed them.

Jesus didn’t.

The Apostles didn’t.

The Holy Spirit didn’t.

Neither of those 3 entities are the authors of confusion.

They were created by men, formalized by men, grown by men.
Protestantism isn’t even biblical.
The only ones that protested The Church scripturally were the Pharisees and their like.

Here’s a good follow up question:

Who founded Protestantism?
 
I don’t get this whole Idea of the definition of words changing if you capitalize them. :confused:
 
2ndGen said:
I heard Luther (the Roman Catholic founder of Protestantism) tried to have Zwingli burned at the stake…anybody heard of this?
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Heard of it, yes.
Seen references for it in primary or contemporary secondary references, No.
 
Seems like you all agree I’m a protestant…

A protestant is someone who rejects the authority of the pope and has the Bible as their sole autority. Martin Luther is not an authority to a Lutheran.

So is a “bad” Catholic a Protestant, or a member of a Protestant church who does not reject the Roman pontiff a Catholic?
 
Hilde89 said:
Seems like you all agree I’m a protestant…
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I don’t know… nor do I particularly care, so long as you have faith, do good works, and somehow attain grace. I KNOW you can get the needed grace in the Catholic Church… or the Orthodox… but I’m not certain about all the various non-catholic western faith communities.
Hilde89 said:
A protestant is someone who rejects the authority of the pope and has the Bible as their sole autority. Martin Luther is not an authority to a Lutheran.
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He wanted the church to reform. It didn’t do so fast enough. He didn’t of need want to split the church. (but some of his beliefs were heretical by the standards of the Church… May the Lord have mercy on Fr. Luther.) And some of his reforms are incompatible with the faith of the Church.
Hilde89 said:
So is a “bad” Catholic a Protestant, or a member of a Protestant church who does not reject the Roman pontiff a Catholic?
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Generally, no.

A heretic, schismatic, unwitting dup, or just plain sinner depending upon which form of “bad” and why they are that form of “bad”…

A few qualify as Protestant… when they leave the church due to private interpretation of scripture without reference to the Traditions and traditions of the Church.
 
lak611 said:
In another thread, a poster mentioned that Lutherans, Anglicans and Baptists who named their churches after Mary were not Protestant. Who is considered to be a Protestant, and what is your definition of Protestant?
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From what I have read, you can classify Christianity into four branches. The fourth branch would be called Restorationist.

Restorationists believe that the church lost it for 1900 or so years and that their sect represents the return of true Christianity. JW, Mormons, Adventists, United Pentecostals…etc. would all be considered restorationalists. Some restorationist we would consider Christian but a little wierd. Other restorationists we would consider not Christian.

If you are not Catholic, Orthodox, or Restorationist you would be considered Protestant.

Lutherans, Anglicans and Baptists are not Orthodox, Catholic, or Restorationalist (you might make a case that extreme KJV only Baptists though are Restorationists). The line might be considered blurry here.

Here is more information about restorationist.
 
Syele said:
If you don’t see the differences, look closer. The difference is:
  • I DO NOT agree that the Bible alone can bind the conscience.
  • I do not deny that the Holy Spirit speaks independently of the Bible,
  • I do believe there is personal revelation.(God can and does speak to people individually.
    (I can go into more detail if we start a new thread)
So what I believe is VERY different than the Definition of sola scriptura that belongs with the 5 sloas.

Lots of protestants agree with many things Catholic, unless you only define protestant as “anti-Catholic.” So your assertion “as long as it isnt a Catholic interpretation at the end of the day” is not reasonable.
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Sounds like Prima Scriptura to me.
 
Syele said:
I don’t get this whole Idea of the definition of words changing if you capitalize them. :confused:
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It’s a rule of grammar.

It’s something everyone should’ve learned in school.

For example, you can “bob” for apples or you can be named Bob.

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Aramis said:
Heard of it, yes.
Seen references for it in primary or contemporary secondary references, No.
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:bigyikes: Glad I did’nt place my faith in his teachings.

Our founder was crucified and martyred…he did’nt try to be a murderer.
 
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