Who is Jesus in Islam?

[reggiep]

He made up his own religion for his own desire. He was a demon! He wants to take his daughter in law as a wife then all of a sudden he receives a revelations and he justify it.
The demon got convenient revelation throughout his life basically for him to do what he wanted to do.
Aisha his wife even remarked on this when he took the wife of his adopted son as his own wife Aisha said it seems like Allah is always ready to rush to grant mohammed his desires.

The demon made up his own religion while he went along its easy to see. He would always receive “devine” revelations to suit his own desires!

 

[reggiep]

Quran 2:106 Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?

Basically this whole verse contradicts itself, it means pretty much the same thing that verses contradict each other lol it means the same thing just different wording lol.

 

[reggiep]

Theres even a term in arabic used for abrogating verses in the koran called Naskh. There are even books written by islamic scholars themselves stating what verses contradict other ones!

 

[reggiep]

I stated i have 5 diff translations of the koran and i have many hadiths and all i keep getting from both fo you is your lying and this and that and you havent read the koran and your getting this from an anti-islamic website.

I said give me a verse in the koran it states that muslims and non-muslims are equal that hasnt been abrogated you guys have yet to do that.

I said non-muslims have 3 options convert peaceful, it not pay jiyza and accept second class status and if not prepare for war and you guys yet to address that.

 

[reggiep]

A demon? Dare I say, prove it?

His wives and children, his friends and servants, no doubt they would disagree with you. A mercy to mankind.

I stated i have 5 diff translations of the koran and i have many hadiths and all i keep getting from both fo you is your lying and this and that and you havent read the koran and your getting this from an anti-islamic website.

I said give me a verse in the koran it states that muslims and non-muslims are equal that hasnt been abrogated you guys have yet to do that.

I said non-muslims have 3 options convert peaceful, it not pay jiyza and accept second class status and if not prepare for war and you guys yet to address that.

 

[mike7795]

I stated i have 5 diff translations of the koran and i have many hadiths and all i keep getting from both fo you is your lying and this and that and you havent read the koran and your getting this from an anti-islamic website.

I said give me a verse in the koran it states that muslims and non-muslims are equal that hasnt been abrogated you guys have yet to do that.

I said non-muslims have 3 options convert peaceful, it not pay jiyza and accept second class status and if not prepare for war and you guys yet to address that.

Come on, brother. The Old Testament is full of the same thing, Gentile vs. Jew. What you offer isn’t enough.

 

[reggiep]

Old testament has been replaced by the new testament. All teachings have been abrogated when jesus christ says love your enemy! Not only does he say love your enemy but also turn the other cheek!

No where will you find this in the koran or any hadiths!

 

[mike7795]

Old testament has been replaced by the new testament. All teachings have been abrogated when jesus christ says love your enemy! Not only does he say love your enemy but also turn the other cheek!

No where will you find this in the koran or any hadiths!

Now you know better than that! Let’s go through the Catholic Catechism and try to find, together, every instance of the Old Testament quoted in it.

Muslims are just as saved as we are. Why would you be upset about that? Isn’t that something to be happy about?

Again, read Rumi. If you could write what he wrote, I’d swear off of any other religion for life.

Regards,
Mike

 

[reggiep]

Next thing you know some mullah is going to come on this site put a fatwa on my *** lol.

Come on bastards fatwa me lol. I wouldnt be surprised if anyone does because there is no freedom in there religion at all.

Muslims the truly devout ones are mindless zombies. There whole aspect of there lives are controlled by islam. When they eat they have to do it a certain way follow certain rituals. For marriage, for divorce, even when they wash there balls you have to do it in an islamic way no joke.

Theres no freedom of thought whatsoever again there mindless zombies every aspect of there life is controlled what they can do and what they cant do, the truly devout muslims really cant think for themselves.

 

[reggiep]

Now you know better than that! Let’s go through the Catholic Catechism and try to find, together, every instance of the Old Testament quoted in it.

Muslims are just as saved as we are. Why would you be upset about that? Isn’t that something to be happy about?

Again, read Rumi. If you could write what he wrote, I’d swear off of any other religion for life.

Regards,
Mike

Mike if you checked this post few pages back you can see there end of days prophecies go against the judeo/christain faith.

There mahdi is our anti-christ and vice versa, its all explained when I was reading, contrasting and comparing end of days prophecies for both religions. Mike read the koran and tell me if we are saved lol. Dont know about you but i never read anywhere Yehwah promised virgins in heaven with erections lasting for years and after each conquest of your female virgins they some how become virgins again lol.

I mean somehow the erections are suppose to last for years and your always suppose to remain hard, i dont know maybe in there paradise theres Allah’s viagara lol.

 

[mike7795]

Next thing you know some mullah is going to come on this site put a fatwa on my *** lol.

Come on bastards fatwa me lol. I wouldnt be surprised if anyone does because there is no freedom in there religion at all.

Muslims the truly devout ones are mindless zombies. There whole aspect of there lives are controlled by islam. When they eat they have to do it a certain way follow certain rituals. For marriage, for divorce, even when they wash there balls you have to do it in an islamic way no joke.

Theres no freedom of thought whatsoever again there mindless zombies every aspect of there life is controlled what they can do and what they cant do, the truly devout muslims really cant think for themselves.

That may be true, but the same can be said for fundamentalist Christians, or even Catholics. Anybody who refuses to accept another’s beliefs are guilty of that.

That doesn’t make ALL Muslims bad, just as it doesn’t make ALL Catholics bad.

As a Catholic you have rituals to perform too, yes?

Let them be done and forget it about it. Love is more important than rituals, even ball washing.

Fundamentalism is fundamentalism regardless of religion.

Peace,
Mike

 

[collegepak]

reggie, tnx for the comparison between the Muslim Jesus and our Anti-Christ on page 9. It really made it clear what was at stake. We Christians believe in Jesus as God/Son who died on the Cross and then resurrected. We Christians celebrate his resurrection over death as the pivotal point of the mystery of our faith. It matters that he died and then over came death because that proves his power as our Lord. And because of that we have a reason to believe in universal love and act in the Way of our Jesus. Islam is strictly ritual practice and mysticism w/ the spirit world. Thats how Muslims prove their worthiness.

 

[mike7795]

Mike if you checked this post few pages back you can see there end of days prophecies go against the judeo/christain faith.

There mahdi is our anti-christ and vice versa, its all explained when I was reading, contrasting and comparing end of days prophecies for both religions. Mike read the koran and tell me if we are saved lol. Dont know about you but i never read anywhere Yehwah promised virgins in heaven with erections lasting for years and after each conquest of your female virgins they some how become virgins again lol.

I mean somehow the erections are suppose to last for years and your always suppose to remain hard, i dont know maybe in there paradise theres Allah’s viagara lol.

reggie,

I know you mean well, but I’m not talking about a “by the book faith.” I mean read the works of Rumi and other Sufi Muslims, and you’ll see no difference between them and John of the Cross. YES, there are fundamentalist Muslims, but there are fundamentalist Christians too.

God is accessible to all. That’s all I’m saying.

Peace,
Mike

 

[mike7795]

reggie, tnx for the comparison between the Muslim Jesus and our Anti-Christ on page 9. It really made it clear what was at stake. We Christians believe in Jesus as God/Son who died on the Cross and then resurrected. We Christians celebrate his resurrection over death as the pivotal point of the mystery of our faith. It matters that he died and then over came death because that proves his power as our Lord. And because of that we have a reason to believe in universal love and act in the Way of our Jesus. Islam is strictly ritual practice and mysticism w/ the spirit world. Thats how Muslims prove their worthiness.

Oh, BS. Tell me where Rumi’s ritualism is.

I would die for his experience. The man had a one-on-one with God.

Come on guys, let’s be a little more open…please?

Mike

 

[reggiep]

reggie, tnx for the comparison between the Muslim Jesus and our Anti-Christ on page 9. It really made it clear what was at stake. We Christians believe in Jesus as God/Son who died on the Cross and then resurrected. We Christians celebrate his resurrection over death as the pivotal point of the mystery of our faith. It matters that he died and then over came death because that proves his power as our Lord. And because of that we have a reason to believe in universal love and act in the Way of our Jesus. Islam is strictly ritual practice and mysticism w/ the spirit world. Thats how Muslims prove their worthiness.

No problem but islam isnt a mysticism. Mohammed was a demon. Ive compared and contrast the end of days prophecies as you seen.
My other post non abrahamic religions such as hinduism and buddhism which are older then abrahamic faiths in there prophecies it states also that a demon named mohammed would come on earth and his message would be to basically kill and oppress all non-believers. So its not only the judeo/christain faith that is claming essentially islam as being demonic. Ill give you an example.

Buddha prophesized that a devil will appear in this world and his main teaching will be to kill others by calling them as non-believers. Lord Buddha also prophesized that demonic Islam will be wiped out by 2347 of our era, and He also gave all the details (name of their god = alla name of their holy place = meka gyamtso, means mecca etc.) in the most famous Buddhist text called The Kalachakra Tantra (1197 pages in the Tibetan language).

Also even in the book of genesis Genesis (16:10-12) “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Basically the above verse referring to the descendants of ishmail.

 

[mike7795]

No problem but islam isnt a mysticism. Mohammed was a demon. Ive compared and contrast the end of days prophecies as you seen.
My other post non abrahamic religions such as hinduism and buddhism which are older then abrahamic faiths in there prophecies it states also that a demon named mohammed would come on earth and his message would be to basically kill and oppress all non-believers. So its not only the judeo/christain faith that is claming essentially islam as being demonic. Ill give you an example.

Buddha prophesized that a devil will appear in this world and his main teaching will be to kill others by calling them as non-believers. Lord Buddha also prophesized that demonic Islam will be wiped out by 2347 of our era, and He also gave all the details (name of their god = alla name of their holy place = meka gyamtso, means mecca etc.) in the most famous Buddhist text called The Kalachakra Tantra (1197 pages in the Tibetan language).

Also even in the book of genesis Genesis (16:10-12) “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Basically the above verse referring to the descendants of ishmail.

WHEN I am parted from my Beloved, my heart is full of misery: I have no confort in the day, I have no sleep in the night.
To whom shall I tell my sorrow?
The night is dark; the hours slip by.
Because my Lord is absent, I start up and tremble with fear.
Kabir says: “Listen, my friend! there is no other satisfaction, save in the encounter with the Beloved.”

If I didn’t tell you that was a Muslim, you wouldn’t know. Forget the prophecy and judge each person by their own merits, I say.

Much love to you brother!

Mike

 

[reggiep]

I agree mike all people should be judged by there own merits but thats not the issue of debate here. The issue of debate here is islam! If you truly follow this religion from word to word then you have an so called extremist.
But from what i pointed out extremists are the true muslims and the so called peaceful muslims are unaware of what is really taught in the koran.

 

[mike7795]

I agree mike all people should be judged by there own merits but thats not the issue of debate here. The issue of debate here is islam! If you truly follow this religion from word to word then you have an so called extremist.
But from what i pointed out extremists are the true muslims and the so called peaceful muslims are unaware of what is really taught in the koran.

I hope it’s the same for us Catholics/Christians. Again, our Bible is full of killing in the Old Testament in the name of God.

The fundamentalist Muslims WILL NOT win, just as the fundamentalist Christians will not win. Love conquers all.

The Muslims I’ve met are loving, compassionate people. Just as you and I read the Old Testament, these Muslims read the Quran without the urge to kill somebody. For you and I, the Israelites may have been in a lot of wars in the “name of God,” but that doesn’t mean we have to.

I personally have faith that love will win over words, whether those be in the Bible or the Quran. The law is written in our Hearts.

Peace,
Mike

 

[inJESUS]

I do not define it and do not want to prove it. It is your job nd I am sure that you also have no proof. That sign you cannot see. I had defined the word “Sign”. I hope it was good enough?

that’s what you wrote Planten"

Sign is a sign. It is applicable to miracles. It is same as Jesus said, “The wicked generation seeks a sign…”

 

[inJESUS]

You know that’s not what I believe, Angelos. But rather you’ve just made a mockery of my faith.

I believe that this idea of the crucifixion wasn’t something preached originally by Jesus’s followers but something which crept into the teachings later. Not that God, glorified and exalted be He, just tricked everyone. This is what you say in order to lower your opinion of Almighty God. It is not what Muslims teach.

but what you fail to realize is that the Quran adds " it appeared as such"…it is this specific part you must adress before saying it “crept” later because if there was no crucifixion at all, what is it that “appeared” then? in other words, the Quran refutes what you believe in.