Who is the Prophet Mohammed?

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@ Jakasaki
I don’t have time at this moment. Getting dinner for grandchildren but will look it up in the bible. I will site the pages. I will also get the Koran out to find the page where it Speaks of Jesus. Alot of the things I learned about Islam is when I went to the Mosque with friends who came from Iran. Give me a few days.
Blessings
 
Islam states that Jesus was the fourth prophet born of a virgin and was a great teacher. Mohammed was the fifth and final prophet who was given to memorize by the Angel Gabrial the words of the Holy Koran.
Islam is one of the three religions decended from Abraham, Judism, Christianity and islam. Whan Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah was sent into the desert with her son Ishmeal the Angel Gabrial appeared at a well spring so they could have water and told them that from Ishmeal would desend 12 great kings. Mohammad is desended from those tribes or Kings.
Islam also states that “Jesus” will come back to slaughter all Christians and Jews.
 
@DeSanto,
Another thing I will need to look up as I don’t remember reading that. In what Sura is that written?
 
@DeSanto,
Another thing I will need to look up as I don’t remember reading that. In what Sura is that written?
An-nisa’ 4:159

What does islam say about the last days, in your opinion? You must do a study on the Islamic version of the final days and compare to the biblical version. Quite a wake up call. The Islamic anti-Christ (dajal) will defend Jews and claim to be Jesus Christ. The false prophet of the bible seems to be the Muslim Jesus (Isa). Compare the Mahdi of Islam to the anti-Christ of the bible.

Please read this…

answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch06_the_muslim_jesus.htm

answering-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

You must know when speaking with Muslims, they have specific doctrines that call for and encourage deception as a tool to advance islam.

Be careful not to be deceived.
 
Cathy4941;9973493:
Islam states that Jesus was the fourth prophet born of a virgin and was a great teacher. Mohammed was the fifth and final prophet who was given to memorize by the Angel Gabrial the words of the Holy Koran.
Islam is one of the three religions decended from Abraham, Judism, Christianity and islam. Whan Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah was sent into the desert with her son Ishmeal the Angel Gabrial appeared at a well spring so they could have water and told them that from Ishmeal would desend 12 great kings. Mohammad is desended from those tribes or Kings.
Prove your statements with historical sources and factual history.
@ Jakasaki
I don’t have time at this moment. Getting dinner for grandchildren but will look it up in the bible. I will site the pages. I will also get the Koran out to find the page where it Speaks of Jesus. Alot of the things I learned about Islam is when I went to the Mosque with friends who came from Iran. Give me a few days.
Blessings
we are counting…😉
 
Islam states that Jesus was the fourth prophet born of a virgin and was a great teacher. Mohammed was the fifth and final prophet who was given to memorize by the Angel Gabrial the words of the Holy Koran.
Islam is one of the three religions decended from Abraham, Judism, Christianity and islam. Whan Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah was sent into the desert with her son Ishmeal the Angel Gabrial appeared at a well spring so they could have water and told them that from Ishmeal would desend 12 great kings. Mohammad is desended from those tribes or Kings.
Cathy:

I’m aware of pretty much of what you posted, however, the quotes below are the ones I’m interested in:
Islam states that Jesus was the fourth prophet
Mohammed was the fifth
and told them that from Ishmeal would desend 12 great kings. Mohammad is desended from those tribes or Kings
 
There are numerous errors in the Koran. I believe it says Mary, Jesus’ mother was Moses’ wife which isn’t true at all. The Arab version of the name Mary is Miriam and Moses did have a wife named Miriam but she wasn’t Jesus’ Mary our Blessed Mother. Moses and The Blessed Mother lived thousands of years apart. With that said, Muslims like the Blessed Mother and she is only woman whose name is even mentioned in the Koran, it doesn’t even mention Mohammed’s daughter, Fatima. I also find it no suprise that Our Blessed Mother appeared at Fatima.
I don’t know if that’s correct? I haven’t read the Quran in Arabic, but I am pretty sure Muslims believe Mary was the wife of Joseph. Many Muslims are named “Yusef” (which is Hebrew) after him. Also, Hebrew and Aramaic refer to Mary as “Mariam” and “Maryam” respectively, along with Arabic as well. And I think the Quran mentions other women, especially some of Mohammad’s wives like Khadija.
 
Mr. Mc Glinn: thanks for your post.
So 1260 AH is 1844AD and the end of the Islamic dispensation. IN 1844AD the Bab announced himself as the promised Mahdi of Islam, and he fortold the imminent arrival of an Islamic Messiah (who turned out to be Baha’Ullah.) I, for one, do not think that us Catholics ought to be so quick to dismiss Islam as a heresy. Baha’Ullah has pointed out a direction for the world to take: “The worship of freedom leds to sedition, the only true freedom is compliance with Allah’s Laws.” “National patriotism must give way to international brotherhood.” Bahai faith supports a creation of a world government and an end to warfare.
I find Bahi precepts to be consistent with the teachings of our great Rabbi, Yehoshua ben Yosef.
The Baha’i faith is not a part of Islam.
 
Cathy:

I’m aware of pretty much of what you posted, however, the quotes below are the ones I’m interested in:
Hi Pam,

I believe Cathy was referring to the Arch-Prophets in Islam. They are considered to be superior to all other prophets. There are 5 Arch-Prophets, these are Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all).

According to the hadiths the 12 imams have been mentioned in the previous scriptures and so we believe the 12 kings from the children of Ishmael are a reference to the 12 Imams (as).
 
I don’t know if that’s correct? I haven’t read the Quran in Arabic, but I am pretty sure Muslims believe Mary was the wife of Joseph. Many Muslims are named “Yusef” (which is Hebrew) after him. Also, Hebrew and Aramaic refer to Mary as “Mariam” and “Maryam” respectively, along with Arabic as well. And I think the Quran mentions other women, especially some of Mohammad’s wives like Khadija.
Star,

you’re correct. What KP is referring to is a verse in the Quran in which the Jewish people refer to Mary (as) as the sister of Aaron. This is not meant to be understood literally, it’s similar to reading Jesus is the son of man or the son of David in the bible. We know this is not meant to be understood literally.
 
a verse in the Quran in which the Jewish people refer to Mary (as) as the sister of Aaron. This is not meant to be understood literally, it’s similar to reading Jesus is the son of man or the son of David in the bible
🙂 How are you famdigy, long time no seen!, however, I disagree with you on that, I think Muslims are using workaround to escape from that historical mistake in Quran, because If that was accurate then we should have seen similar concept in the hadiths or even in our daily life where someone tells a woman or a man “sister of X” or “brother of X”, where X is a holy/good person…
 
I don’t know if that’s correct? I haven’t read the Quran in Arabic, but I am pretty sure Muslims believe Mary was the wife of Joseph. Many Muslims are named “Yusef” (which is Hebrew) after him. Also, Hebrew and Aramaic refer to Mary as “Mariam” and “Maryam” respectively, along with Arabic as well. And I think the Quran mentions other women, especially some of Mohammad’s wives like Khadija.
Some, I believe, have confused the Blessed Virgin Mary with Miriam the sister of Aaron, since both are named “Maryam” is Arabic. This should help clear up the misunderstanding…

Copied from Wikipedia…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_Mary#Family

The Qur’an refers to Mary as being from the “house of Amram”, which is a reference to Amram, the father of Moses, Aaron and Miriam, through whom Mary descended. Mary is further called the “daughter of Amram”, which has again been interpreted to refer to her ancestor rather than her actual father, who is unnamed in the Qur’an, but to whom Christian tradition applies the name Joachim. Muslim scholars and commentators have seen the Qur’an’s statement of Mary being a “daughter of Amram” as similar to the description of Elizabeth in the Gospel of Luke as being one of the “daughters of Aaron”; they interpret both of these phrases as referring to ancestral fathers, rather than literal fathers. Take note, however, that the Gospel of Luke only says Mary and Elizabeth are relatives. There is no phrase “the daughter of Aaron.” (Only Luke 1 mentions Elizabeth

ALTHOUGH…

Copied from answering-islam.org/Index/M/mary.html

sister of Aaron, Maryam 19:28. Compare with Exodus 15:20 and Numbers 26:59

There has been quite a bit of confusion about why Mary was called sister of Aaron. Aaron had a sister called Miriam (Ar: Maryam), who was also a prophetess. Muslims are not in accord in their opinions. Mary and Miriam are both “Maryam” in Arabic.

…, Sale does mention some Muslim writers who have done so *. According to them, “Mary the sister of Moses was miraculously preserved alive from his time till that of Jesus Christ, purposely to become the mother of Jesus.” (Koran, p. 34, note x on “Imran” (quoted by Abdul-Haqq, p. 46)).
Al-Baidhawi claims she is called the sister of Aaron because Mary was a Levite (this theory contradicts not only the geneology found in the Bible, where Mary was a descendent of Judah but even the understanding of her genealogy in the earliest Muslim sources). Husain maintained that the Aaron in Surah Maryam 19:28 was not the same as the brother of Moses (quoted in Hughes’ Dictionary, p. 328). In the Sahih of Muslim, chapter Kitab al-Adab, it was recorded that Christians of Najran pointed out to Al-Mughairah this mistaken identity. He consulted Muhammd who replied that the Jews have many names. Unfortunately, this still doesn’t shed any light on the this confusion.

A detailed discussion on the issue is given in the article Is Mary the Sister of Aaron?

answering-islam.org/Silas/mary.htm

See also this article, answering-islam.org/BibleCom/lk1-36.html for a discussion of whether Mary is the descendent of Judah or Levi.*
 
As far as Joseph being her husband…

Mary’s Relationship to Joseph

In the Bible, Mary is first engaged and later married to Joseph the carpenter from Nazareth. The Qur’an and other Muslim sources mention him hardly at all, and if so he is still never referred to as the husband but only as a guardian of Mary.

Mary attained puberty, and she began to stay with Zechariah’s wife during the courses of her menstruation, and after completing the menstrual cycle and performing the ghusl (the major ritual ablution, which entails the washing of the whole body), she would return, ritually pure, to her mihrab. Mary increased in worship until there was no person known at that time who approached her in the time of worshipping. Being physically capable at this stage in her development, Mary began her service at the Temple. It is at this point that Joseph (Yusuf) the Carpenter begins to appear in the accounts of her life. However since Joseph is never mentioned in the Qur’an or hadith material, the information supplied concerning him, and especially about his connection with Mary, is expressed with extreme caution. Such accounts are either concluded with a prudent ‘wa’Ilahu a ‘lam (‘and God knows best’) or prefaced with the words ‘it is said’, ‘they say’ (the identity of the source being left unspecified) or, at times, ‘Christian sources say’. The following discussion can hence be no more than an attempt to clarify the elements which recur with the most frequency and appear to have been most widely acquiesced in by Islamic scholarship.

Joseph is said to have been Mary’s cousin, a carpenter who was also in service at the Temple. As a result, he became aware of Mary’s devoutness and the palpable excellence of her worship. They both made use of a source of water in a grotto on the Mount of Olives (Jabal al-Zaytun). Then there is a solitary account found in Ibn Hisham’s Sira (biography of the Prophet), and attributed to Ibn Ishaq. This account implies a second casting of lots:

It was Jurayj the priest, a man of the Israelites, a carpenter, whose arrow separated out, who took responsibility for Mary. And it was Zachariah who had been her guardian before this time. The Israelites had suffered a terrible calamity, and Zachariah had grown too old to bear the responsibility of Mary; thus they cast lots for her, and Jurayj the priest won, and took the responsibility.

The same account is found in Tha‘labi’s collection of prophetic biographers (Qisas), still uniquely attributed to Ibn Ishaq, except this time it is Joseph the Carpenter who cast lots and gains responsibility for the guardianship of Mary. Due to the solitary attestation of this anecdote, the lack of reference to it in the Qur’an and hadith, and the confusion of identities in the two versions, it must be discarded as unreliable. In fact, in traditional Muslim sources Joseph’s relationship with Mary is frequently not clarified, or he is mentioned as her companion and relation only, because there is no revealed basis for anything more specific, such as the statement that he was her fiancé and later became her husband, both of which are generally attributed to the Gospels, if mentioned at all. Ibn al-Qayyim further claims that Mary and Joseph were from different tribes and thus could not have been married to each other as this was against Jewish law. (Mary The Blessed Virgin of Islam, pp. 28-29)

You can find this reference an many others here…

answering-islam.org/Index/M/mary.html
 
Cathy4941;9973493:
Islam states that Jesus was the fourth prophet born of a virgin and was a great teacher. Mohammed was the fifth and final prophet who was given to memorize by the Angel Gabrial the words of the Holy Koran.
Islam is one of the three religions decended from Abraham, Judism, Christianity and islam. Whan Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah was sent into the desert with her son Ishmeal the Angel Gabrial appeared at a well spring so they could have water and told them that from Ishmeal would desend 12 great kings. Mohammad is desended from those tribes or Kings.
Prove your statements with historical sources and factual history.
@ Jakasaki
I don’t have time at this moment. Getting dinner for grandchildren but will look it up in the bible. I will site the pages. I will also get the Koran out to find the page where it Speaks of Jesus. Alot of the things I learned about Islam is when I went to the Mosque with friends who came from Iran. Give me a few days.
Blessings
13 days have passed already and nothing!
:dts:As usual the Taqiyya principle (religious dissimulation).
 
I apoligize but I have been busy with my four grandchildren and will have surgery on tues. “not serious” eye surgery. I thought I had a Koran here at my daughters. I will try to look it up online. I did not make it a priority with so much going in the house. No excuse just the truth. Blessings in Christ…

:byzsoc:
 
I apoligize but I have been busy with my four grandchildren and will have surgery on tues. “not serious” eye surgery. I thought I had a Koran here at my daughters. I will try to look it up online. I did not make it a priority with so much going in the house. No excuse just the truth. Blessings in Christ…

:byzsoc:
Hi. Posts in CAF stay in the thread for days and even months and the thread may still be active. Sometimes we can say things casually in a given moment and that is perfectly normal. But you sounded quite sure of following up … . If it is just an understanding from some information that you have heard of, probably those things may not have strong basis. And that can be the reason why you may not find reasonable reliable references. It’s OK, you don’t have too actually. Most posters here have some basic knowledge on this issue in Islam and I can say that what you posted was not conventional belief even among the Muslims themselves.

May God bless you in your eye surgery. And how blessed it is to be with grandchildren. :)👍 Have a blessed day.
 
Vatican II Chapter II.16: “…the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place among whom are the Muslims: these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God…”
Nostra Aetate: (10/28/65) “The Church also has a high regard for Muslims…”
Given these statements how are we to regard the founding prophet of Islam? A clue can be found in our Lord’s Gospels where the pagan woman begged our Lord’s mercy but was rebuked and insulted. Her reply is instructive: “…the house dogs under the table can eat the children’s scraps.” Islam is composed of whatever “scraps” of Christianity and Judaism that Mohammed could get his hands on. I believe that Mohammed was commissioned by Heaven to bring monotheism to the decendants of Ishmael. He is their “Moses” some 2000 years after the Children of Israel received the Law. And just because he founded Islam on the “children’s scraps” does not mean that either he or Islam is illegitimate. Our Lord’s teaching is a powerful, wonderful thing. Even its “scraps” have great power and significance. I don’t suppose that Muslims will be pleased with my opinion. But that’s not my concern. What I want is for my fellow Christians to show the same respect for Islam (and thereby for Muhammed) that our Church leaders have shown.
 
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