Who is the Prophet?

[hasantas]

Hasantas, I am interested in where you picked up the “mirror image” analogy you mention above. Is it in the Quran or Hadith anywhere at all please?

Thankyou

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143- And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, “My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You.” Allah ] said, “You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me.” But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, “Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers.” Al-A’raf(7):143

There is no such term in Qur’an and Hadith. That is something Islamic scholars define by analogy.

The issue God to be being seen is controversial. Sunnah scholars say that it is impossible to see Allah directly on the world. But human can see God through “tacalli” (being manifestation). Tacalli means being seen(appeared) in such way. God had appeared to the mountain so we can assume the mountain as a mirror. God’s life appear on the body of alives so bodies are to be some kind of mirror for God’s tacalli.

Believers will be able to see God in Heavens but we cannot grasp the property of it now.

 

[adrift]

Once God had became manifestation to Moses. But that was not through incarnation. But such hing like mirror image which we cannot comprehend the true nature. So to say God had incarnation is an unreasonable way.

What you have written seems unrelated. God manifesting to Moses had nothing to do with Jesus emptying Himself into human nature.

Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross

 

[TruthBearer]

The Prophet is a book by Khalil Gibran.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Once God had became manifestation to Moses. But that was not through incarnation. But such hing like mirror image which we cannot comprehend the true nature. So to say God had incarnation is an unreasonable way.

As far as “So to say God had incarnation is an unreasonable way”, I would say that God can do things whether we agree with God doing them God’s way or not.

As I said and I repeat, "The whole of Christianity is God becoming One of us in the Incarnation and all that that entails.

Without the Incarnation, there is NO Christianity, it is that simple.

 

[gmcbroom]

Tom,

Are you trying to convince hasantas?
If so be aware his way isn’t ours. I only say that because from a young age Muslims are instructed I the Koran, Hadith, and Syrah.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Tom,

Are you trying to convince hasantas?
If so be aware his way isn’t ours. I only say that because from a young age Muslims are instructed I the Koran, Hadith, and Syrah.

I am not trying to convince hasantas or anyone else whether or not God became Incarnate in the Person of Jesus, I am only trying to get across the point that the Incarnation of God in the Person of Jesus is what Christianity IS.

I am trying to state very simply and clearly that without the Incarnation that there is NO Christianity.

 

[gmcbroom]

Tom I totally understand that. He knows that’s what Catholics believe. I’m simply saying that Muslims believe that the Koran is the word of God in cannot be contradicted by anyone. They take that very seriously it’s why they can kill if anyone insults the prophet Mohammed. To Muslims Christianity and Judaism can be tolerated and only if we submit to the sharia law. In the U.S. Not a problem. However, elsewhere the Middle East parts of Europe, south east Asia it can be a death sentence to be catholic or Christian in general. You cannot convince them only the Holy Spirit can do it. So unless he’s sincerely curious about converting which can be a death sentence for him if caught in Muslim countries I’d drop it.