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I don’t see how either one would be attractive. As for the artwork in Dragonball, it’s alrite considering when it was from.
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I’ve been looking for episodes of this like crazy!! Not much luck so far. 😦
 
Wow, an Aa! Megamisama! fan. Nice to see one here. Also a fan, though I’ve only seen the OVA plus a few of the new series. Many say the OVA was much better than the anime series…
I disagree. The anime series followed the manga more closely. 🙂
 
Also, Yamato Nadeshiko sexist? Then what do fmeinsiuts want, that a woman be angry and bitter and a kid hater instead of a strong, family woman who can keep her house in order? Why are there so few female mother heroes in western works? Whats wrong with being a mother and a protagonist struggling with life? True such a story may not be very interesting but put a twist on it. Hell, just look at Nagisa of Clannad and Kaoru Kamiya of Rurouni Kenshin, not to mention the fact that a lot of the girls in Hayate no Gotoku are rather girly including Hinagiku whom I never saw even in the least a tomboy and Tohru of Fruits Basket. Just, really? Being a strong family woman is sexist nowadays? Look to the Blessed Virgin as an example and just ignore these nutters.
In the West, being a woman now means acting more like a man than a woman. I agree with you that those nutters be ignored.
 
Hatori kun? We meet again, Friend.
Urasawa has actually done a pretty good job in portraying Japan in the late 1960s-early 70s and referring to pop culture of the period methinks.

Also, it’s rather interesting that he wrote about a murderous cult in the light of Aum Shinrikyo - IMHO one of the groups (if not the) that helped give a bad name to religion in modern Japan - and the acts of terrorism perpetrated by the group (esp. the 1995 sarin attacks).
 
:doh2:Oh shoot:…quoting this website dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_SSSS

"Dragon Ball SSSS (SSSS stands for “Saikyō Super Saiyan Secret”) is a project launched by Bandai, in conjunction with V-Jump and Saikyō Jump, in November 2011.This project has been conceived “in order to take the first step towards new developments and further expansions of the Dragon Ball titles.” More concretely, the project included the online and free streaming of the movie Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans on V-Jump’s website and the anime adaptation of Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock, also streamed online and free in December 2011.The March 2012 issue of the magazine Saikyō Jump is packed with a DVD that contains both movies. "

I’ve learned by now that when it comes to “new” Dragon ball stuff the releases and work behind it is…sketchy to put it short -_-.It’s about as likely as a good DC non-Nolan Bat’s movie.But when it comes to Dragonball everyone will be having a tantrum about how they need to run to Toriyama for his ever so unreliable approval for things.

I actually hope this isn’t a new series.This might be egotistical but I’ve really wished that if they were to make another series I’d like it if they’d release it after I finished my fan-fics so I can compare it to what’s made by an anime company which now has years of hindsight of the reception that the Dragonball franchise recieved:p.I definately would NOT be surprised if* development heck *will be one of the problems they encounter with this.

Whatever though.This wont effect that posting I’m thinking about doing where I meander on my fanfic (which I’m still working on).It’s pretty flippin unlikely that it’s a new series IMO but just some more marketable stuff like the* Dragonball Hoshi* card games.In the future once I find out if it actually seems like an interesting attempt at something I’ll likely integrate it into my fanfic somehow.
 
hey guys, what do you think of Cowboy Bebop? I’m liking it right now very much, and I REALLY like the music.

Say LW, I don’t know if I ever asked you this so sorry for repeating but what is your favorite anime? Also, whats your favorite manga? I’m always saying that Evangelion, Elfen Lied and Rurouni Kenshin are my top favorite anime, with Hayate no Gotoku and 20th Century Boys being my favorite manga. What are yours?
Yes, the music is fantastic!

And the series is great too, one of my favouirtes.

Blessings!

🙂
 
I somewhat second this. I’ve never watched the OVA, but rumors of its story deviating so much from the manga have kept me from watching it.
I have, and it’s the first version of A!MG that I’ve seen. I had first watched the OVA when I was a boy. 🙂
It is, one of the reasons why I am an anime fan today. 🙂
 
Hatori kun? We meet again, Friend.
Oh, and to add to my previous post: time for a 20th Century Boys trivia.

Ever wonder where The Eloim Essaims got their name from?

Answer: It comes from the aforementioned Akuma-kun (written for the record during the 60s - our time period! 😉 - by Shigeru Mizuki, of GeGeGe no Kitaro fame), where the main character uses this as part of a spell to conjure up demons. (For the record, this was actually an ‘authentic’ spell from an 18th century grimoire known as the Grand Grimoire). In fact, there is an artifact in that series which can subdue demons known as the Flute of Solomon (based on the Seal of Solomon). Heck, the phrase shows up in the animated adaptation made in the 1989.

Disclaimer: I in no way endorse any attempts to summon demons or committing any other spiritually dangerous acts in your backyard. Or anywhere else, for that matter.
 
Oh, and to add to my previous post: time for a 20th Century Boys trivia.

Ever wonder where The Eloim Essaims got their name from?

Answer: It comes from the aforementioned Akuma-kun (written for the record during the 60s - our time period! 😉 - by Shigeru Mizuki, of GeGeGe no Kitaro fame), where the main character uses this as part of a spell to conjure up demons. (For the record, this was actually an ‘authentic’ spell from an 18th century grimoire known as the Grand Grimoire). In fact, there is an artifact in that series which can subdue demons known as the Flute of Solomon (based on the Seal of Solomon). Heck, the phrase shows up in the animated adaptation made in the 1989.

Disclaimer: I in no way endorse any attempts to summon demons or committing any other spiritually dangerous acts in your backyard.
Grand Grimoire? Why does it remind me of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance all of a sudden?
 
Grand Grimoire? Why does it remind me of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance all of a sudden?
Because some fantasy games and anime producers in Japan like to borrow such elements to give “atmosphere”. Usually, some grimoires are used as reference.
 
Something came up in my mind;I need some advice on the Gundam series.Here’s my experience with it.I watched *Gundam Wing *when I was 11-ish.I liked the intro with the fighting robots which caught my attention but I found the show so difficult to understand at the time!.

There’s SO MUCH in the Gundam series about politics & military tactics (which added a realism I wasn’t use to back then) that it’s seems hard to think (EVEN for an anime) that kids as young as like 8 understand a Gundam series easily (excluding the obviously kiddy-sih Gundam SD).Strangely it wasn’t until the episode that Milliardo takes off his mask that I finally understood and I started liking the show although maybe it was also b/c it was the last story arc.I still think that Heero’s kinda of a jerk though :).

It wasn’t until I was 12 that I started to understand politics and it’s interconnection with war.Yet I even Had trouble with understanding the 1st ep of Gundam Seed at 13 or 14-ish too:(.I was like “okay there’s a space colony and a boy…he’s see’s a Gundam I guess…a whole bunch of robots are attacking and interrupting the wedding of someone important,**what **?!?” and I kind of gave up on it,except when I saw action scenes of it while flipping through channels.

I sort of understand now how there’s recurring themes like how how “war is heck” and Earth vs.space colonies,right?.I feel though that I’ve got to watch the original series from the late 70’s to understand the premise of the whole franchise though.Can anyone reccomend a good Gundam series that’s a good gateway for those new to this famous military sci-fi franchise?.
 
I finished Full Metal Panic! season 1 and Fumoffu. The latter was HILARIOUS. The last episode was so funny. Want to watch second raid now. I wouldn’t call it one of my favorites but it is very, very good, heartwarming, funny and has good drama and tension. It has great characters in Kaname and Souseke. What prevents it from being so great is that well, nothing really. I want more and as someone who doesn’t like war, it got me to at least like military warfare fiction. I wish I could read the light novels as they look very good. Gonna watch Second raid now.
 
Because some fantasy games and anime producers in Japan like to borrow such elements to give “atmosphere”. Usually, some grimoires are used as reference.
AND religions like Shinto, Buddhism, and the Abrahamic religions (Christianity is a popular choice).
 
AND religions like Shinto, Buddhism, and the Abrahamic religions (Christianity is a popular choice).
Ah yes, these too!

I should have worded better my post, I was speaking about certain things like magic circles and such.

Blessings!

🙂
 
[Here I go without having my question about Gundam answered.I swear at times I feel like I monopolize a thread a/o can be the one to end it]

How my fanfic started: one night I was tossing and turning thinking about how much my appreciation for Dragon balll grew after looking very in depth to how it influenced the whole shonen genre.I felt really compelled to write a fanfic with Goku Jr. in the* Hero’s legacy* era a century after GT.Sort of 😊.See back when I started that I just basically wrote down loads of plot points and descriptions of the characters.Even now that’s all I got.It’s not like I’ve sat down and written any storries.But both my plot points and character descriptions have come a LONG way since then and have grown a lot.
See me doing this came out various motives.One of them was giving the DB world the development it deserves.I mean IMO there’s some good ideas out there that can be used to tell a nice story.Someone just has to take things more seriously and give good explanation so as to add depth NOT as is so commonly said “darker and grittier”.Being “dark and gritty” when done good is the result of giving something depth not a superficialy shallow aesthetic.

I am SO SICK:banghead: of how ever since Z,humans have been considered as nothing more than frailily weak cannon and pummel fodder for the villians.I’ve noticed that SSSSSOOOO many ppl whether it’s in youtue comments,fanfics,fan art,vids etc are lost in the sci-fi aspect of the series The name of the series is Dragon ball** NOT** “Saiyans super fight,fight,fight power aliens forever!”:dts:.This okay webcomic makes my point dragonball-multiverse.com/en/accueil.html highlights my point.

The thing that they are SO “MIND BLIND”-ly lost in is the Saiyans:a species that for goodness sake were** functionally extinct** from the moment they were introduced!:mad:.To so many it’s all about the lengthy yelling,power charging and hair changes so much so that you see fan fics with the human characters as Saiyans. I mean honestly ppl!,you can tell that even flippin Toriyama expresses regret about this and it’s very likely the reason for at least making the *Kaio-ken *accessible to all humans (and Neo Namekians) in Dragon ball online and making the “New Crane school” founded by Tien with how it teaches that even the most powerful baddies can be beaten with a powerful and concentrated enough spiritual attack along with the “New Turtle school” founded by Krillen with it’s teaching that even the most powerful opponent can be taken out with teamwork.That is such an important part of many shonens.I mean heck,even the two 1/2 Saiyans Goten and Trunks apparently just end up making a swordmanship school called the Kikoukenjutsu sword School.

The premise always has to be about/revolve around THE DRAGON BALLS.And I decided to take DB back to it’s fantasy roots this way.Finding out about Dragon ball online changed everything.It takes places 200 yrs after the end of Z with other ppl’s like Neo-Namekians (Namekians went to Earth b/c apparently they got there planet destroyed…agian),Yardrats and the Majin descendants of Buu.The principal villians are demons named Miira and Towa.Miira is trying to get some of Goku’s DNA,by time travelling so Dende enlists “time patrol Trunks” help to gather some ppl to stop them.

Now right there was the ideal opportunity to actually develop a story that can grow a spine and separate itself from the previous series for the sake of carrying the DB franchise forward.But* nnnooooo *it’s the usual obsessing over the past,instead.Thus partly out of frustration with this and thinking that even I actually do something better:yup: I took the stuff that I wrote for the Hero’s legacy era a century forward.What’s interesting is that from a chronological perspective GT could have still taken place and the stuff from DBOnline can still happen nigh 200 yrs later.The only conflicting point is that in the year 790 in the DBO timeline it says that Buu wins 2nd place the world tournament and not Majuub like in GT (dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline#Dragon_Ball_Online). I address GT by essentially dismissing in my own way but NOT by pretending it never happened like what many ppl wish for.

After some thinking I came up with something.In fiction magic by it’s very nature can be explained as all-encompassing and integral to things b/c of the whole big mystery in understanding it.I concluded then that the one kind of human that could feasibly beat a Saiyan regardless of what level he is at is—a sorcerer martial artist.

I could DEFINITELY have some fun and do some neat things with such a type of character.What’s more I intially decided that he would be like the one who gives a common persons perspective on all the fantastical happenings of the DB world.That’s the spirit I worked under at first when regarding this character but he’s changed a lot since then and personally I don’t really think he’s like that.Another example from fiction of a common man seeing some supernatural stuff and giving his commentary on it that occurred to my is the “the divine comedy”.It goes well with this IMO b/c in DB there’s definitely elements of Bangsian fantasy what with it’s own versions of the afterlife.So I named the character after the Japanese translation of Dante Alighieri’s first name;Durante.To be totally honest I’ve developed him more then the field leader of this series Goku’s descendant (who I’ve named Gojiq) as well as Asabi( a villainess turned ally) the same way how in Digimon 02 even though Davis was technically spotlighted as the successor to Tai it was TK and Ken who got more development.

I decided to name this continuation which is inspired by DBOnline,DBI–Dragon ball Impact.Okay now for what’s the hard part for me.I don’t mind giving a rundown of my plot without to many details thrown in as well.I haven’t gone through the trouble of dividing the stories into “sagas” yet at least.But given the way how things interconnect so much I’m not sure if I can do that since it seems a bit arbitrary to me at this point.A few weeks ago when I finalized the plots of this first series by seeing how they interconnect using like a chain of Venn diagrams I noticed a trend in what’s roughly the setting of the story arcs so I’ll just go by those in the mean time.Also I’m sorry if I talk about this as if it were actual show but that’s how it seems to work best in my mind.
 
The 1st Earth based part- It’s starts off with Gojiq (a New Turtle school student) talking with a few of his friends about how they’ve been noticing troubles in the world lately like riots,small skirmishes,cities being mysteriously destroyed etc.He talks about how he’s heard about how his ancestor went looking for things called Dragon balls.He thinks that if they can find them all they can easily wish to solve the world’s problems like this and have a short adventure while doing this.They get dragon ball radar tech from Bulla’s descendant (a Kikoukenjutsu sword school student)l since it’s very secret Brief family tech that he’s been told only to use in the most dire situations.The Saiyan descendant characters also bring up how they’ve been manifesting Saiyan traits like the tails (which they can voluntarily withdraw though) and SSJ power up.They find it strange since the last one’s in their families who’ve been able to do that were Goku and Vegeta Jr. about a century ago.

Similar to how the first dozen episodes of Digimon adventures focused on each character doing their thing when circumstances seem to call for it, I’d do a similar thing with the first few episodes focusing on each of the characters who are introduced and befriended/added to the roster.I’d also be introducing the villians similarly.It starts to get pivotal when the group secretly sneaks into a secret night meeting by the cyborg Commander Red who’s war-mongering ppl and the anthropomorphic animals into a movement that’s againest non-Earthlings (which to him also the includes the Majin) and basically all martial arts.

Their ultimate ambition is to take over and supposedly establish a “glorious new world order” but we all know that means a militaristic dictatorship.They’ll do this by getting the Namekian dragon balls after laying siege to the main Neo-Namekian stronghold.The group beats the Red pants army during their siege but a few aliens (of the Frieza species variety) who were disguised as Red pants soldiers find most of the Namekian dragon balls (and take an Earth dragon ball) before escaping into space

The mostly space part-The kids feel obligated to go follow these aliens into space since there’s still lots of problems and to make things worse there’s now two incomplete sets of Dragon balls.While making a stop on a planet they encounter Asabi.This is Raditz’s illegimate daughter,who was enslaved as a child,have a magically enhanced power inhibiting collar placed on her and a spell that had her stop aging once she was in her late teens to early 20’s-ish.She broke out of the power inhibitor at least and after 2 centuries of enslavement is on a revenge rampage to find her original slavers.After a brutal confrontation with the group she finds out that it’s the Frieza species aliens they’re following.She flies off on the warpath to the Freiza species planet b/c they’re connected to her original slavers.

This puts more pressure on them finding the Frieza species planet.They arrive there to late and see a bit of what Asabi is capable of before she declares herself empress.The group retreats in the chaos of the crowds and stays with a scientist who explains to them a bit about their species history and how they’ve found out that the energy in the dragon balls is extremely unique.Later on,Durante sneaks out while everyone else is sleeping to confront Asabi on an asteroid belt so that he can retrieve the dragon ball she’s using on her necklace.Also a group of the aliens is planning to assassinate her as well.After three grueling fights,Durante nearly wins against Asabi while she was in the SSJ5 form but is to worn out to continue and ends up being killed in front of his friends by her.Gojiq goes into a berserker rage that sends him into the SSJ5 form as well but the Frieza species group interrupts the fight between the two SSJ5’s.
 
The group escapes and Asabi follows them and explains she’d like to go with them.She explains all that stuff she did was b/c of her going wild with her newfound freedom after escaping from slavery after two centuries and she thinks that she can get them to their planet through a portal on a haunted moon.They go there and barely escape a monster that roughly looks like Bongo-Bongo from the LOZ:Ocarina of time before they go into a portal and eventually make it to Earth.While this is happening Durante is dead but much to his shock is HFIL b/c of a curse put on him by Towa.This is where the arc based on “the divine comedy” comes into play and I’ve got two familiar character’s acting as the Virgils:thumbsup:.

Generations sagas-The group reluctantly has to grown used to Asabi who’s no longer bloodlusting personality slowly unravels but always shows regret for having killed Durante.She accompanies them on time travelling expeditions into an DBAF based arc,a story involving Goku Jr. and age 820 when remnants of Frieza’s army attacked Earth.Durante comes back to life sometime during this time.Towa ‘s last attempt at escape through time travel fails and they are about to have a showdown with her in the present before the monster from the haunted moon appears,kills her and becomes the group’s new problem.They beat him and finally have gathered the dragon balls from both the Earth and Namekian sets.However when they put them all together neither Shenron or Porunga appear but instead a “primal dragon” who has the title of “the dragon of harmony”.

The final saga-He explains to the group about how his counter-part "the dragon of disorder” (who’s been responsible to some extent for past problems) is planning on destroying the universe and remaking it to his whim.He explains to them how they got to beat him,so that he be fuse with him into one being like it was original suppose to have been.The old Z-era guard is finally fully involved in this as well.For those who’ve read DC’s “Crisis on infinite earths” in the 80’s imagine you’d get a good idea of what happens next.I do introduce the idea of a multiverse but that’s only glimpsed at near the very end.It’s not like other characters from across a multiverse get involved.The multiverse stuff is for my next one;).

You see on another day,months later I realized that after getting the skeleton done for the plots of the first fanfic half-done I decided to do another one.This is b/c the first one started feeling like it was basically me fixing the ignored ruins that Toriyama left behind by heavily expanding the DB cosmology in a more serious way.If I were to make another series I would feel more so that it’s mine and I can actually make it better then my last one.However a weeks ago when I did a Venn diagram links to see how it’s progressed it definitely does not flow as nicely as DBI and I’ve got to heavily work on it:o.Writing the outlines of the plots definitely has not flowed out of me as intuitively as the plot of DBI which had all it’s major plot point (beginning,middle and end) hammered out in a single night.I’ve still got further work to do on it for sure.The main way I’ll do this is by looking into more fictional media.The premise is about the adventures of the three younger characters from DBI.There’s a particular emphasise on individual power (in a way) with Gojiq’s stepbrother/cousin who unlike his other living relatives couldn’t go SSJ.This is b/c the other Saiyan descendants are the last ones who’ll be able to do this and during this series it’ll be about him changing into something I’ll just call a “post-Saiyan” for the mean time.Also this one will have elements of a seinen like how the first Fullmetal alchemist anime was.This will my implicativeway of saying that the DB series is now growing metaphorically from a* shonen* to a seinen before I give the twillight that is the franchise’s final closure that I’ll execute.
 
Here’s a list of my inspirations for DBI

In terms of tone,thematics and dramaturgy: Digimon, Street fighter II V[ictory] anime,Inuyasha (for it’s humour) and Chrono Trigger

For the stories

X-men:Messiah complex (the mission given to X-factor’s Jamie Madrox and Lila)
The Warriors 1979 movie
DC comics sort arc Identity crisis
I am legend
The princess and the goblin
Original Naruto:Invasion of Konoha arc (…sort of:o)
Marvel’s Siege storyline
X-men:Second coming (infiltration mission given to the New mutants)
X-men:Rise and fall of the Shi’ar empire
Final fantasy VII
At the mountains of madness by .H.P. Lovecraft
The divine comedy
Marvel’s DareD
Mortal Kombat (the original or the 2k11 one)
Dragonball AF (I recently hit a problem with trying to adapt the manga into my fanfic:it was never finished for one thing and it feels kind of non-sensical esp.around the end)
Rise of the planet of the apes
Crisis on infinite earths

If this were ever to be made into an anime I can easily see it go over the 100 episode mark.I would set the limit at 150 though.If ti’s from 150-200 episodes to me that’s getting into questionable turf.Regardless of the shows length I’d keep it filler free so as to avoid the current trend of mainstream shonen’s being lengthy for the sake of milking the cash cow.I know that while writing about this I’ve might have seen ostentatious a/o let this idea get carried away to my mind too easily:rolleyes:.

I also know that by having written all this I’ve heavily introduced the risk of plagiarism.However I’m confident is having revealed all this b/c there to many important intricacies that I haven’t said about.I haven’t even gotten to the changes in the music,aesthetics,cinematography,dialogue,fight choreography,messages,overtones, topics etc I’d do for one thing.The inspirations I’ve listed though can comprimise me though…or can they ;):p:cool:?.

One question though.Does anyone think that for all their legitimate status,huge budgets (and hopefully) years of analyzing the hindsight fans that they’ve have gotten;could Toriyama a/o Toei animation do better then this:thumbsup:?.
 
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