Who will pay for the wall?

[pnewton]

I mean not seeing the forest for the trees, being pedantic on one aspect and ignoring the whole policy on border security and immigration

I thought that might be true for a day and even wrote my agreement with President Trump, for one day. Then he went from, “I’ll sign any bill they bring me,” to needing more Norwegians. No, I will not look at this “big picture” until we have an honest and stable leader. I can only comment on one issue at a time, and what the particular policy is that week.

So he’s not batting 100% but he is connecting with the goal.

This I believe. He is at bat to score a goal.

 

[ChunkMonk]

Saying something different is the very definition of modifying.

He never said anything different. Whether or not your bias allows you to recognize this fact is irrelevant to the truth. He has consistently said the same thing: Mexico will pay for the wall through better trade deals, tariffs, and potentially confiscation of remittances or possibly taxing remittances.

The consumer always ends up paying, the cost of living goes up, and standard of living goes down.

That is an entirely different (and perfectly valid) argument. What is not a valid (or truthful) argument is to say Trump has ‘changed his position’ when he has not.

 

[Zzyzx_Road]

your points are will taken.

I will just say there are hard lines drawn now. A portion of Trump’s base has shown some flexibility regarding DACA, but they would have to get something back for it right there in the bill. No deals like 1986 or 2013 where the amnesty was done up front in exchange for verbal promises to do more later. Personally, I’d be okay giving in on DACA and the wall if the lottery and all chain migration were ended, and E-verify was made mandatory with real penalties to the employers. That’s a trade I can live with.

 

[Theo520]

I thought that might be true for a day and even wrote my agreement with President Trump, for one day. Then he went from, “I’ll sign any bill they bring me,” to needing more Norwegians.

THAT was all on the Dems.
They introduced a special deal for Haitians as part of the DACA agreement.
I think they derailed it on purpose. They don’t want a deal.

 

[pnewton]

LOL. Why am I not surprised at this answer. Bipartisanship is simply not part of the American mindset anymore.

 

[Theo520]

But what I said is accurate, they were close to a deal on DACA when the Dems threw in the additional ask for special Visas, intended for mostly Haitian and Salvadorians in the US illegally or on temp visas.

That is how Haitians became a discussion topic instead of DACA

 

[MaryT777]

We don’t need no thought control. No dark sarcasm in the classroom…