Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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estesbob said:
Obama will lose and lose big to Romney.
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As soon as he develops a personality. He’s the best bet the GOP has and a good candidate but he comes across as so bland and fake.

Suprised but happy to see Obama is winning the poll.
 
Teen4Christ said:
As soon as he develops a personality. He’s the best bet the GOP has and a good candidate but he comes across as so bland and fake.

Suprised but happy to see Obama is winning the poll.
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I like Romney, but I think he also faces a problem from anti-Mormon bigotry among Evangelical voters.
 
bellasbane said:
Name ONE political candidate from the list above who is not a pro-death politician. That is, one who does not distort the Church’s defense of life in one of these two ways:

(empahsis added by me)27. Two temptations in public life can distort the Church’s defense of human life and dignity:
  1. The first is a moral equivalence that makes no ethical distinctions between different kinds of issues involving human life and dignity. The direct and intentional destruction of innocent human life from the moment of conception until natural death is always wrong and is not just one issue among many. It must always be opposed.
  2. The second is the misuse of these necessary moral distinctions as a way of dismissing or ignoring other serious threats to human life and dignity. Racism and other unjust discrimination, the use of the death penalty, resorting to unjust war, the use of torture, war crimes, the failure to respond to those who are suffering from hunger or a lack of health care, or an unjust immigration policy are all serious moral issues that challenge our consciences and require us to act. These are not optional concerns which can be dismissed. Catholics are urged to seriously consider Church teaching on these issues. Although choices about how best to respond to these and other compelling threats to human life and dignity are matters for principled debate and decision, this does not make them optional concerns or permit Catholics to dismiss or ignore Church teaching on these important issues. Clearly not every Catholic can be actively involved on each of these concerns, but we need to support one another as our community of faith defends human life and dignity wherever it is threatened. We are not factions, but one family of faith
    fulfilling the mission of Jesus Christ. Sec1:9 (14 of 42) And since you are so keen for an answer - you go first.
WIll you vote for a pro-death politician and why?
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Newt, Palin and Santorum, don’t know yet about Bachmann.

Now there is one on the list who a Catholic in good conscience cannot possibly vote for given he violates the following:
  1. Is pro-death and proudly so
  2. Supports homosexual marriages
  3. Supports embryonic stem cell research
Important to remember - life issues trump quality of life issues.
 
I’ll give Obama a second term unless he somehow does not get the nod by the democrats and in that case I will most likely write my name in for President; While I don’t know the first thing about running this country, at least i’m honest and in my opinion, thats more the most of the candidates.
 
estesbob said:
Obama will lose and lose big to Romney.
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I wish I thought that, Bob, but I see our feckless electorate voting in Obama again. If they wait long enough they might get the handouts they are looking for. He promised, you know.
 
mary_bobo said:
I wish I thought that, Bob, but I see our feckless electorate voting in Obama again. If they wait long enough they might get the handouts they are looking for. He promised, you know.
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I love this country, but man we have some really, really deeply uninformed people voting.
 
Teen4Christ said:
As soon as he develops a personality. He’s the best bet the GOP has and a good candidate but he comes across as so bland and fake.

Suprised but happy to see Obama is winning the poll.
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Yes, I’m surprised as well.
 
gamewell45 said:
I’ll give Obama a second term unless he somehow does not get the nod by the democrats and in that case I will most likely write my name in for President; While I don’t know the first thing about running this country, at least i’m honest and in my opinion, thats more the most of the candidates.
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Respectfully, is there any point at which protecting innocent humans in the womb, and protecting traditional marriage, overcomes your personal agenda? 🙂

I do not think this nation or the world will have peace or any semblence of happiness in large measure until we stop legally slaughtering God’s babies and until we start realizing that without Godly marriages we are destroying out culture.
 
Why would you be surprised that Obama is winning the poll when he is the only Dem in it and the Repubs are splitting their votes between 8 candidates. If you add up all the Repub votes in the poll Obama is not winning.
 
I believe that Obama is not really that bad when considering all the choices.Its the abortion issue which I disagree with him on the most.All these other issues are debatable and no one seems to be able to give clear cut provable solutions.Its mostly along party lines so we end up voting for the party rather than the candidates.We’ve all heard the Reps.say how desperate the US situation is and how if Obama is reelected were going plunge to our death.But they still have not proved their point in my estimation and all their fixes really just promote capitalism and raise the economy for those that are better off.The middle class may get some boost but the lower middle class downward are going to suffer more.What good is accomplished if half the country is better off but the other half gets poorer?Its true we shouldn’t be in the mess we’re in but you can’t go back to 1970 and forget everything that’s went on in between.
 
Cider said:
Why would you be surprised that Obama is winning the poll when he is the only Dem in it and the Repubs are splitting their votes between 8 candidates. If you add up all the Repub votes in the poll Obama is not winning.
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I seriously doubt our poll is very accurate.

An estimated 54% of Catholics voted for him in 2008. What the Catholic voters do in 2012 could easily swing the election in either direction.

source: zenit.org/article-24180?l=english
 
valentino said:
I believe that Obama is not really that bad when considering all the choices.Its the abortion issue which I disagree with him on the most.All these other issues are debatable and no one seems to be able to give clear cut provable solutions.Its mostly along party lines so we end up voting for the party rather than the candidates.We’ve all heard the Reps.say how desperate the US situation is and how if Obama is reelected were going plunge to our death.But they still have not proved their point in my estimation and all their fixes really just promote capitalism and raise the economy for those that are better off.The middle class may get some boost but the lower middle class downward are going to suffer more.What good is accomplished if half the country is better off but the other half gets poorer?Its true we shouldn’t be in the mess we’re in but you can’t go back to 1970 and forget everything that’s went on in between.
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Do some research for your own sake. Take a look at what the economic and job numbers were in 2006 just before the Democrats took over Congress and just before President Bush went on his socialistic spending spree.

Then, after that, consider what a life is worth. The Democratic Party at its core is a rabidly pro-abortion party. How can any clear thinking person who loves life EVER vote for a Democrat (much less a faithful Catholic)?

Catholics have it within their reach to protect life, and protect traditional marriage, and in doing so save this culture. Yet, so many Baby Boomer Catholics have corrupted the faith that I fear there just are not enough true faithful Catholics to get the job done. The truth is the protection of innocent life should stand above all other issues by a very large measure.

The amazing thing is, if Catholics (by properly using their votes) enticed the Dems to protect life and marriage, then all the other social issues that the Dems love so much would also be viable. Yet, since the Dems clearly support killing innocent life and since they support the destruction of traditional marriage, any talk they about social issues from them comes across as completely empty and devoid of meaning.

Without life, social programs like Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, etc., are all meaningless. We MUST first protect life!
 
valentino said:
I believe that Obama is not really that bad when considering all the choices.Its the abortion issue which I disagree with him on the most.All these other issues are debatable and no one seems to be able to give clear cut provable solutions.Its mostly along party lines so we end up voting for the party rather than the candidates.We’ve all heard the Reps.say how desperate the US situation is and how if Obama is reelected were going plunge to our death.But they still have not proved their point in my estimation and all their fixes really just promote capitalism and raise the economy for those that are better off.The middle class may get some boost but the lower middle class downward are going to suffer more.What good is accomplished if half the country is better off but the other half gets poorer?Its true we shouldn’t be in the mess we’re in but you can’t go back to 1970 and forget everything that’s went on in between.
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I will vote for pro-life candidates and those that will tilt the country back toward the Catholic principle of subsiadarity.
 
estesbob said:
Obama will lose and lose big to Romney.
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Or Pawlenty. Those who are saying Obama will win easy or the Republican candidates do not have a chance, need to think about the economy, unemployment! If they do not vastly improve between now and 2012 Obama will not likely win.
 
I am following Herman Cain with great interest… He looks good to me so far, but I want to learn more about him…I don’t think he could win, but he looks and sounds like an interesting person…
 
Teen4Christ said:
As soon as he develops a personality. He’s the best bet the GOP has and a good candidate but he comes across as so bland and fake.

Suprised but happy to see Obama is winning the poll.
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We really only run 2 serious candidates for POTUS in the general election, maybe 3, and certainly not 10. That a sitting president can’t get 50% in our poll (were non-Americans can vote) actually shows how week he is here. That he can’t break 50% consistantly amongst likely voters nationwide shows how extremely vulnerable he is.

On the Republican side it’s going to get down to Romney, Huntsman, Pawlenty and then a kind of entertaining candidate who won’t get nominated — maybe Herman Cain.
 
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