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Scott_Lafrance
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Roe v. Wade is not as stare decisis as people make it out to be. The only ones who claim it is an immutable Constitutional precedent are leftists. Considering the poor logic used in the decision, I am surprised it hasn’t been overturned yet. Even Ginsberg thinks it was a bad decision and logically flawed, but wouldn’t overturn it on principle because she likes the outcome.
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Scott_Lafrance
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There is too much broken in the economy to fix before 2012 to make this an easy race to win. He is no longer the “fresh, exciting, post-partisan candidate who will do things differently this time.” People have figure out he was the typical leftwing ideologue who believes his own BS and knows how to play the Washington DC partisan game better than anyone. They have figured out that Hope and Change really meant More of the Same. He will not carry nearly as much of the independent vote as he did last time, and even much of his base will probably stay at home since they figured out that he is not the liberal messiah that he was marketed to them as. Why do you think they are pushing so hard to get felons voting rights, and to get illegals voting rights. Without criminals, illegal immigrants, brownshirt union gangs, and dead people, how are the Democrats supposed to win elections?
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Cider
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Did I say anything about the poll being an accurate representation of the Catholic vote as a whole? No I didn’t.
meltzerboy
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There are many independent voters out there who don’t make up their mind until practically the last moment. Besides, anything can happen eighteen months before an election; in politics, that’s equivalent to a millennium. Some potential voters haven’t even thought about the election yet. I think Pawlenty may have a shot; but I’ve never voted Republican in my life.
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Beth_Cecilia
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Is there a reason no one is talking about Jon Huntsman? My (limited) understanding is that he is a Romney-like moderate- maybe slightly to the left of where Romney currently stands, but without all the Romney baggage. (No waffling on important issues, no mind changes for his presidential bid, no “Romney-care”) He is also a Mormon, but I think that is a non-issue anymore. He is pro-life. He has worked with democrats- notably, president Obama. He is considering a run, and I think he could amass support among democrats and independents. I am not the only one who thinks that either. Liberals watching him are a little worried. I would have to know more, but from what I have seen, he seems like a candidate I would cross party lines to vote for. If I had to vote today, he would get my primary vote. (Actually, I just moved to a new state. Does anyone know if VA has open primaries?)
Oh, and he has his own money.
I think we will be hearing more from him, and I suspect many here will like him.
Oh, and he has his own money.
I think we will be hearing more from him, and I suspect many here will like him.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Welcome to the Club.
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cheers2u
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Ok, this is one thing that REALLY bothers me…mixing politics & church. As a Catholic I am told in mass who I should vote for (it’s always a matter of the abortion issue). But as an American I have the responsibility to vote for candidates that I feel can lead our nation. Now, absolutely no disrespect on the abortion issue…I am not an abortion advocate by any means, but it is not the ONLY issue that should be looked at, however in the eyes of the church that is all that matters…quite frankly I’m more concerned with the economy and feeding my family right now. Selfish? Might seem that way to some, but I do NOT want to be told in church how I SHOULD vote & then made to feel guilty if I don’t do as the Church wishes. It makes me not even want to go to mass during election time it’s so bad…& for that I feel terrible. Just my thoughts. And for the record, of those listed I’d have to go with Obama. NO WAY could I ever go with Palin…sorry, she’d do a terrible job.
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Rich_Olszewski
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As to the first part, that’s not actually true. As to the second, it depends on the pastor what he wants to push. Many don’t emphasize abortion.
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Beth_Cecilia
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bbarrick8383
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I’d feel guilty too.
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Bohm_Bawerk
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Exactly. I’m irritated by the “I’m more Catholic than you are” attitude that seems to pass around here, and how some like to think that unless you vote Republican, you aren’t Catholic.
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Bohm_Bawerk
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I chose Ron Paul, but I’m not American so I don’t think my choice matters much.
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bbarrick8383
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It irritates you even though you aren’t American?
It’s not about one Catholic being greater than another, it’s about one Catholic trying to educate another. I’m not Catholic, but I understand the concerns people may have on social issues.
But that can wait till we outlaw abortion.
And until then voting Democrat = more abortion. That can not be denied.
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Bohm_Bawerk
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The issue I have is how some Catholics are trying to make others one-issue voters. However, not everyone is a one-issue voter. If you want to be a one-issue voter, great, I’m happy that you’re using your right to vote. But as for me, I personally believe the economy should be on the main agenda, and rightly so: A national debt of $14.3 trillion is not a joke. I hope you understand that the U.S. could be officially bankrupt by as close as August this year, right? 47 million people are living in poverty in the U.S, and the figure is rising as we speak. When you have this staggering income disparity, with inflation adding insult to injury, civil war becomes a very real reality. Yet all I see here is “abortion this”, and “abortion that”.
I think a lot of Americans outside this dream-like world of the internet will be concerned about unemployment. People have bills to pay. That is the reality.
Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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bbarrick8383
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This doesn’t even make sense. The people who fight abortion and the one’s who will do something about the national debt/jobs are one in the same.
I don’t reckon God’s going to care much about whether or not our economy went down the drain.
I bet he does care about abortion.
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Gift_from_God
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Well, most Catholics like myself are not conservative, nor are we one-issue voters
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Bohm_Bawerk
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No, not really. I haven’t really seen any of those from the staunchly pro-life movement propose economic policies that are feasible. They are a social movement concerned with a select number of social issues (e.g. abortion, birth control, etc). They contribute virtually nothing to the debate on how the American economy can be resuscitated.
And whilst it is true that God is more likely to care about abortion than the economy, let’s not forget that during periods of economic calamity, crime rises, and even those who are generally not into a life of crime may find themselves in that position. After all, what will you do when you go to your supermarket and find the shelves are empty? A hungry man is like a dog parked into a corner - he can become vicious at any time.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I overlook abortion or anything. My main contention is the myopic attitude on here that what should be on everyone’s mind is abortion. My main contention is how some Catholics are being duped that they must be a hard-line Republican to even regard themselves as Catholics. Those who live in the real-world know the world is much more multi-faceted than that. When you have your house foreclosed (which here we term “repossession”), and are forced to live on the streets, the economy becomes a very real issue.
Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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Gift_from_God
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I highly doubt a Christian would want to damage religious freedom of Christians. If you’re referring to other religions, I doubt he personally would want to damage their freedoms
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Gift_from_God
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Many Catholics like myself don’t go by the Catholic voters guide. We do not believe in the Church dictating how we should vote
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