Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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RosalieM said:
Guess what? I’m not thru with politics after all!
I’m voting for Sarah Palin!:D:D:D:D
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Good for you! That’s most charitable of you and folks like you willing to vote for her. Poor Ms. Palin will need every vote she can get so that the election won’t be a total rejection of her and her campaign. 😉 🙂
 
Does anyone know at the bottom of the poll it says You may not vote on this poll? Is the voting closed? Do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can participate in a poll? JW
 
dharmasister said:
Does anyone know at the bottom of the poll it says You may not vote on this poll? Is the voting closed? Do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can participate in a poll? JW
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Trial members are not allowed to vote in polls.
 
I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet, but I was thinking about it and I realized this:

We Catholics are the largest religious group in America! Imagine if we all voted for the same person; we could decide the vote. In other words, if someone with immoral ideas gets voted into office, it’s basically our fault. On the other hand, we could give America our best.

Something to think about… :hmmm:
 
MarysGirls said:
I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet, but I was thinking about it and I realized this:

We Catholics are the largest religious group in America! Imagine if we all voted for the same person; we could decide the vote. In other words, if someone with immoral ideas gets voted into office, it’s basically our fault. On the other hand, we could give America our best.

Something to think about… :hmmm:
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If Catholic refused to vote for pro-abortion canidates abortion would be illegal.
 
estesbob said:
If Catholic refused to vote for pro-abortion canidates abortion would be illegal.
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That’s speculation. There is no direct causation between voting for the GOP and seeing abortion made illegal.
 
MarysGirls said:
We Catholics are the largest religious group in America! Imagine if we all voted for the same person; we could decide the vote.
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We do not all march in lockstep as Catholics. There is an entire spectrum of concerns to the Catholic voter, a wide range of political figures that Catholics would choose or not choose. The Catholics in America aren’t a monolithic group. So, American Catholics will not all vote the same way. IMO.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Keith who? I don’t even own a television set. Television is all stupidity to me, news and entertainment. I rely on my subscriptions to the New York Times (liberal), the Wall Street Journal (conservative), and the Arkansas Democrat/Gazette (conservative) for my news and information.
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Now you are getting warmer! I knew there must be something we agree on…but there was a series on TV about the rift valley in Africa last night…sorry you missed it.😉
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
We do not all march in lockstep as Catholics. There is an entire spectrum of concerns to the Catholic voter, a wide range of political figures that Catholics would choose or not choose. The Catholics in America aren’t a monolithic group. So, American Catholics will not all vote the same way. IMO.
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You are correct-there is an entire specturm of “Catholics” who refuse to let their faith interfere with their politics. That is why Obama was elected and why abortion is legal in this country today.
 
estesbob said:
You are correct-there is an entire specturm of “Catholics” who refuse to let their faith interfere with their politics. That is why Obama was elected and why abortion is legal in this country today.
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I don’t think it’s fair of you to speak this way of Catholics that vote Republican Bob. I know there are many that feel that Catholics who vote Republican are putting their politics ahead of their faith, but it’s wrong of us to judge them harshly. I think we should give them the benfit of the doubt and assume they are making decisions based on a well formed conscience that has taken the full, complete, and accurate teachings of the church in to consideration before they cast their ballot. Anyway, as far as I know, there is no formal declaration by the Magestrium that Catholics, in America must vote Republican. So, let’s be charitable and assume people are making choices that conform to their conscience.
 
RosalieM said:
I’m saying Obama is a sure winner because of what I see every day in the news with polls and with his recent feather-in-the-cap with the Bin Laden elimination. I feel the GOP agenda is not honorable (not quite evil perhaps) in that they are so ready to cut down helping the elderly and disabled, but not increase taxes on the rich or decrease spending on wars.
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Thats nonsense. The Republicans are trying to fix the mess Obama and the Dems got us into. And btw…I am elderly and disabled. The stories the Dems put out to scare old people is just a bunch of flapping in the wind on their part…
 
Big_Ro said:
I don’t think it’s fair of you to speak this way of Catholics that vote Republican Bob. I know there are many that feel that Catholics who vote Republican are putting their politics ahead of their faith, but it’s wrong of us to judge them harshly. I think we should give them the benfit of the doubt and assume they are making decisions based on a well formed conscience that has taken the full, complete, and accurate teachings of the church in to consideration before they cast their ballot. Anyway, as far as I know, there is no formal declaration by the Magestrium that Catholics, in America must vote Republican. So, let’s be charitable and assume people are making choices that conform to their conscience.
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That could read Vote Democrate also. A Catholic is suppose to vote to the best of their ability to help the country. Killing the unborn is no help at all.
 
I’m surprised at how well Ron Paul is doing on the CAF forum. :confused: I realize this is what is called an “opportunity sample”, but I hadn’t really detected a lot of pure libertarianism on the boards here. Perhaps it is the cranky quotient at work - boards attract cranky argumentative people - Ron Paul is nothing if not cranky (cranky can be a good thing sometimes). 😉
 
Big_Ro said:
I don’t think it’s fair of you to speak this way of Catholics that vote Republican Bob. I know there are many that feel that Catholics who vote Republican are putting their politics ahead of their faith, but it’s wrong of us to judge them harshly. I think we should give them the benfit of the doubt and assume they are making decisions based on a well formed conscience that has taken the full, complete, and accurate teachings of the church in to consideration before they cast their ballot. Anyway, as far as I know, there is no formal declaration by the Magestrium that Catholics, in America must vote Republican. So, let’s be charitable and assume people are making choices that conform to their conscience.
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So you are contending that it was RepublicanCatholics who voted to put Obama in office and vote to keep abortion legal? One of the stranger assertion i have seen made in CAF.
 
Big_Ro said:
I don’t think it’s fair of you to speak this way of Catholics that vote Republican Bob. I know there are many that feel that Catholics who vote Republican are putting their politics ahead of their faith, but it’s wrong of us to judge them harshly. I think we should give them the benfit of the doubt and assume they are making decisions based on a well formed conscience that has taken the full, complete, and accurate teachings of the church in to consideration before they cast their ballot. Anyway, as far as I know, there is no formal declaration by the Magestrium that Catholics, in America must vote Republican. So, let’s be charitable and assume people are making choices that conform to their conscience.
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Cleverly turned. 😉 However, it must be admitted that the Democrat devotion to abortion on demand is something we simply cannot, in good (and informed) conscience support, while there is nothing inherently immoral about, say, the Ryan plan.

It may be observed as well that there is no single “Republican program” at present, though the Ryan plan may serve as a topic of conversation for now. The Democrat program for the future is even less determinable in many respects. But the Democrat platform and the voting records of Democrats are so very clear in their support of abortion on demand that there can be no unclarity as to what the party stands for in that regard.
 
MarysGirls said:
I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet, but I was thinking about it and I realized this:

We Catholics are the largest religious group in America! Imagine if we all voted for the same person; we could decide the vote. In other words, if someone with immoral ideas gets voted into office, it’s basically our fault. On the other hand, we could give America our best.

Something to think about… :hmmm:
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People have tried to make that case, including myself. But there are some, on both sides of the isle, who are too married to their party to even consider this option.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
People have tried to make that case, including myself. But there are some, on both sides of the isle, who are too married to their party to even consider this option.
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Block voting can work against a group’s interest’s as well. If the group consistently and solidly hands it’s votes to one party it can become easy to ignore. Vice the erstwhile “solid south” during the Roosevelt years. Or, I might suggest, vice black voters of today, who poll strong on things like school vouchers, but will never see them from the Democrats they seek to elect.
 
JHow said:
Block voting can work against a group’s interest’s as well. If the group consistently and solidly hands it’s votes to one party it can become easy to ignore. Vice the erstwhile “solid south” during the Roosevelt years. Or, I might suggest, vice black voters of today, who poll strong on things like school vouchers, but will never see them from the Democrats they seek to elect.
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I, for the life of me, cannot figure out the fanatical loyalty that the black community has to the Democrat Party. :confused:
 
estesbob said:
So you are contending that it was RepublicanCatholics who voted to put Obama in office and vote to keep abortion legal? One of the stranger assertion i have seen made in CAF.
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Yes precisely. By voting for McCain as their nominee they virtually guaranteed an Obama victory.
 
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