Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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Beau_Ouiville said:
Well, first you gotta get into Harvard Law and many try but few are chosen. Then, one must have a high average in law school. Once again, not everyone can do this.

And, I can tell you that an undergraduate GPA in mid-range can still get one into a top law school! Its not just grades-- there are things like one’s major, LSATs and references.
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Given the absolute failure of his presidency one must wonder just how good a Harvard law degree is. And of course we all know that there are other factors taken into account when applying to major universities-race being a primary one.
 
Hi, honestly the best candidate up there is Ron Paul. He is against abortion, against the war, against torture, against the federal reserve, etc… I noticed many people would vote for obama again. Do you know how corrupt he is? He and George Bush all follow the same path. Do you know he is pro choice. He is for going into war without any reason. Do any of you know that before he was elected, both he and hilary clinton attended the bildergerb? This is no conspiracy theory, look it up. I don’t know enough about the other candidates, but I do know that 95% of all candidates in the past are corrupt.
And how many of you know that the federal reserve is not part of the US government? Do you know that income taxt is not law? How many of you know that there are more than 1 trillion dollars unaccounted for in the budget of the federal reserve? Do any of you even wonder where it went? Who was the chariman of the federal reserve during the economic crisis. It was bernanke. And you know that obama re-elected him. I want you guys to ask yourselves why our last three presidents have all been in some kind of global group like the bilderberg, the cfr, and the trilateral commission. There is a reason people like dick cheney and bush were in them and not someone like Ron Paul, who is vehemently against the patriot act and the federal reserve.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Well, first you gotta get into Harvard Law and many try but few are chosen. Then, one must have a high average in law school. Once again, not everyone can do this.

And, I can sure tell you that an undergraduate GPA in mid-range can still get one into a top law school! Its not just grades-- there are things like one’s major, LSATs and references.

After that, it is very, very difficult to get a teaching position on the law school level. The top law schools are *quite *selective.
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It helps to have people/agencies in high places pulling strings, like Khalid al-Mansour.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Hard to tell what collateral damage was caused when he was bombing NVN.
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Ouch. Objectively speaking, McCain probably has killed more people than Obama, personally and directly. However, in the only writing that can be attributed to Obama during his tenure on Harvard Law Review, he is noted as writing that the government has a vested interest in providing abortions so as to reduce the number of people born into poverty and despair.
 
estesbob said:
Given the absolute failure of his presidency one must wonder just how good a Harvard law degree is.
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It helped him become President of the United States. a job he’ll have until 2016. That’s how good the degree is. Whether or not he did as well as some would have wanted doesn’t take away from the usefulness of the degree.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Ouch. Objectively speaking, McCain probably has killed more people than Obama, personally and directly.
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Been a long time since I’ve heard the old vietnamn Vets are baby killers claim. Feel like I have been sucked back into the 60s.!
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
It helped him become President of the United States. a job he’ll have until 2016. That’s how good the degree is. Whether or not he did as well as some would have wanted doesn’t take away from the usefulness of the degree.
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You really think Obama is going to take a job as a lawyer when he leaves office in 2013?
 
estesbob said:
Been a long time since I’ve heard the old vietnamn Vets are baby killers claim. Feel like I have been sucked back into the 60s.!
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I am not saying anything about baby killing, but, objectively speaking, McCain was a pilot in Vietnam and did run ground support sorties, which is how he came to be shot down. I don’t count collateral damage during a war to be on the same level as pushing for the direct and intentional killing of a child in the womb though.
 
Hey, just wanted to make another post to make these things easier to read. I hope you guys all look into Ron Paul and notice just how corrupt a lot of these candidates in the poll are(even if they dont seem so on the surface).
I just want to ask you these questions to make you more aware of the state of our country. I want to say that none of what I say is “conspiracy theory”. You can look up all the statements I make on the internet.
Now for my next set of questions I want to know how many of you know that the CIA was and is still involved in child kidnappings and drug trafficking. Look up the iran contra for the drug trafficking. And look up “boys town nebraska” for the prostitution of orphans. You can also look up Ted Gunderson, a former LA FBI agent talking about child sacrifice in the CIA. Do you know that George H W Bush was in the CIA before becoming president? You know that he was helped smuggle drugs from Nicaragua to the United States? There is a reason they dont want to legalize marijuana and its not cause its dangerous. Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol and yet many people get jailed just for posessing it. Do you know that George H W Bush was also part of the boys town Nebraska scandal? He helped to prostitute little children. Ever heard of the Bohemian Grove? Well guess what, just go on youtube and you can hear many famous celebrities talking about it. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have both been invited to them. Why were these guys invited? Do you know what they do at the bohemian grove? They worship owl statues and burn human effigies. David gergen also took part in the Bohemian Grove. These are the people the evil men at the top use to control media. These men have one thing in common. They all make repeated use of the words Republican, democrat, liberal, conservative. There is no difference between our presidents.
Sure, there are a few but look at the general direction of our country. Continued war, continuted depression, and a continual taking away of our rights. Please, this whole terrorism thing is outright outrageous. You know that because of the Patriot act, they can kill any person they think may be a terrorist ?You know that there are 5 year olds on the terrorist list?
I want to tell everyone something. Just about every candidate will not do anything about the corruption in government. They wont try to make CIA and the federal reserve less secretive. They wont even try to get rid of it. you know why? because they support evil. The CIA and the federal reserve are destroying our country. The federal reserve produced the income tax and is producing very high inflation. We have to vote someone like Ron Paul in.
 
bball147 said:
Hey, just wanted to make another post to make these things easier to read. I hope you guys all look into Ron Paul and notice just how corrupt a lot of these candidates in the poll are(even if they dont seem so on the surface).
I just want to ask you these questions to make you more aware of the state of our country. I want to say that none of what I say is “conspiracy theory”. You can look up all the statements I make on the internet.
Now for my next set of questions I want to know how many of you know that the CIA was and is still involved in child kidnappings and drug trafficking. Look up the iran contra for the drug trafficking. And look up “boys town nebraska” for the prostitution of orphans. You can also look up Ted Gunderson, a former LA FBI agent talking about child sacrifice in the CIA. Do you know that George H W Bush was in the CIA before becoming president? You know that he was helped smuggle drugs from Nicaragua to the United States? There is a reason they dont want to legalize marijuana and its not cause its dangerous. Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol and yet many people get jailed just for posessing it. Do you know that George H W Bush was also part of the boys town Nebraska scandal? He helped to prostitute little children. Ever heard of the Bohemian Grove? Well guess what, just go on youtube and you can hear many famous celebrities talking about it. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have both been invited to them. Why were these guys invited? Do you know what they do at the bohemian grove? They worship owl statues and burn human effigies. David gergen also took part in the Bohemian Grove. These are the people the evil men at the top use to control media. These men have one thing in common. They all make repeated use of the words Republican, democrat, liberal, conservative. There is no difference between our presidents.
Sure, there are a few but look at the general direction of our country. Continued war, continuted depression, and a continual taking away of our rights. Please, this whole terrorism thing is outright outrageous. You know that because of the Patriot act, they can kill any person they think may be a terrorist ?You know that there are 5 year olds on the terrorist list?
I want to tell everyone something. Just about every candidate will not do anything about the corruption in government. They wont try to make CIA and the federal reserve less secretive. They wont even try to get rid of it. you know why? because they support evil. The CIA and the federal reserve are destroying our country. The federal reserve produced the income tax and is producing very high inflation. We have to vote someone like Ron Paul in.
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Welcome to the Twilight Zone…
 
bball147 said:
Hey, just wanted to make another post to make these things easier to read. I hope you guys all look into Ron Paul and notice just how corrupt a lot of these candidates in the poll are(even if they dont seem so on the surface).
I just want to ask you these questions to make you more aware of the state of our country. I want to say that none of what I say is “conspiracy theory”. You can look up all the statements I make on the internet.
Now for my next set of questions I want to know how many of you know that the CIA was and is still involved in child kidnappings and drug trafficking. Look up the iran contra for the drug trafficking. And look up “boys town nebraska” for the prostitution of orphans. You can also look up Ted Gunderson, a former LA FBI agent talking about child sacrifice in the CIA. Do you know that George H W Bush was in the CIA before becoming president? You know that he was helped smuggle drugs from Nicaragua to the United States? There is a reason they dont want to legalize marijuana and its not cause its dangerous. Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol and yet many people get jailed just for posessing it. Do you know that George H W Bush was also part of the boys town Nebraska scandal? He helped to prostitute little children. Ever heard of the Bohemian Grove? Well guess what, just go on youtube and you can hear many famous celebrities talking about it. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have both been invited to them. Why were these guys invited? Do you know what they do at the bohemian grove? They worship owl statues and burn human effigies. David gergen also took part in the Bohemian Grove. These are the people the evil men at the top use to control media. These men have one thing in common. They all make repeated use of the words Republican, democrat, liberal, conservative. There is no difference between our presidents.
Sure, there are a few but look at the general direction of our country. Continued war, continuted depression, and a continual taking away of our rights. Please, this whole terrorism thing is outright outrageous. You know that because of the Patriot act, they can kill any person they think may be a terrorist ?You know that there are 5 year olds on the terrorist list?
I want to tell everyone something. Just about every candidate will not do anything about the corruption in government. They wont try to make CIA and the federal reserve less secretive. They wont even try to get rid of it. you know why? because they support evil. The CIA and the federal reserve are destroying our country. The federal reserve produced the income tax and is producing very high inflation. We have to vote someone like Ron Paul in.
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Some of this is kinda spurious and unverifiable, but generally my take on things. Be warned though, supporting Ron Paul will get you branded a wackadoo around here. 👍 Welcome to the Wackadoo Club.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Since Hagee rushed to support McCain in 2008 no Catholic should vote for a Republican!
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Yup, and now John Hagee is participating in Rick Perry’s “Day of Fasting and Prayer”.

Here’s a video of him inviting people to join him at it to pray for the United States of American (and I suppose to ask God to protect the nation from gays & Catholics)

youtu.be/ZxRWpJ49AE4

Sarah Palin also appears to be a John Hagee fan - here she’s trying to fit one of his events into her schedule:

“Is sched free to do john hagee event in june? Pls cc me and erika on that.” - Sarah Palin, May 3, 2007.

motherjones.com/files/palin-hagee-email.pdf

Just goes to show you that you can hate homosexuals, abortion, AND Catholics all at the same time. 🙂
 
bellasbane said:
Just goes to show you that you can hate homosexuals, abortion, AND Catholics all at the same time. 🙂
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You think that it is possible, just possible, to hate the sin of sexual impurity, while still loving the people who do the sinning? I have no idea why some of these evangelicals are so drawn to homosexuality as their focus of ire, I was under the impression that all sexual impurity was equally despised by God. That said though, I couldn’t have anything to do with John Hagee. I find his histrionics and attention seeking nerve grating. That goes with any of these “mega church” pastors.
 
Now after tonight’s debate would you change your vote?
I probably would.But the OP probably would not allow it.
It would be interesting to see the changes ,if any.
 
why were my newer posts deleted? Was it cause I provided links to back up what i said?
 
bball147 said:
why were my newer posts deleted? Was it cause I provided links to back up what i said?
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Just my personal opinion, mind you, but after reading your rather outre posts, I’m surprised they weren’t all deleted. Again, my :twocents:
 
Np. I understand they that they may seem outrageous. Doesn’t mean that they weren’t the truth though. Oh well
 
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