Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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I rarely see anything about euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, and human cloning on this Forum. Shouldn’t there be as much as on the one “non-negotiable”?
The liberals on this forum complain when we talk about abortion so much. Would you like us to constantly point out that your political affiliations support those ad well on a constant basis?

Would you still support them if they killed as many old people as they do unborn?
 
Why is it that some people see racism in everything.:banghead:
How am I seeing racism? Are you denying that hispanics and african-Americans were denied their right to vote? Are you denying that people were being lynched for asserting their God given rights? Are you saying that Jim Crow wasn’t in force in much of America? This is not a perception it is a fact. So, you bet, I’m not comfortable with people that want to return to an era where me and my children and family will be treated as second class even though we were here long before any of our lighter skinned brothers and sisters arrived. I’m not having a perception problem. I take issue with the reality of your statement.
 
I don’t think someone who loses their home and is out on the street is able to fend for themselves. Such a person is a priority as well. I don’t think someone who is struggling to feed their family is sufficienly able to fend for themselves. Such a person (and the persons in their family) are a priority as well. I don’t think an elderly person whose social security and pension has dropped in half is sufficiently able to fend for themselves if they wind up losing everything because of it.

People are important after they are born too. Let’s show it by making them priorities too. 👍
We can, get the government out of the way while we do it though. They are soaking up and wasting too much of our money in the process.
 
Palin is starting to get a little too narcissistic for my liking with a movie coming out about her. The reason why I say that is because I consider Obama to be VERY narcissistic with him publishing 2 biographies of himself when he hasn’t accomplished ANYTHING at all prior to 4 years ago. Perhaps I will be wrong about Palin.

We need to defeat Obama and the best candidate I think in my humble opinion is Rick Perry. The 2012 election will be about the economy as EVERY election is. Its what got Clinton in 1992 (Economy sucked) and its why ultimately that McCain lost.
Rick Perry will be the nominee in 2012. Bet on it.
 
We can, get the government out of the way while we do it though. They are soaking up and wasting too much of our money in the process.
I totally understand your perspective. But the perspective of someone who relies on their social security check, or benefits, or the extension of unemployment benefits, will be different that yours, and they will vote differently as a result.
 
How am I seeing racism? Are you denying that hispanics and african-Americans were denied their right to vote? Are you denying that people were being lynched for asserting their God given rights? Are you saying that Jim Crow wasn’t in force in much of America? This is not a perception it is a fact. So, you bet, I’m not comfortable with people that want to return to an era where me and my children and family will be treated as second class even though we were here long before any of our lighter skinned brothers and sisters arrived. I’m not having a perception problem. I take issue with the reality of your statement.
Nobody is promoting that part of that era in these forums. I’m sure there are some in this country, it would be naive to think otherwise. But things have changed, and it would be foolish not to recognize the differences and progress the new generations have made since then.
 
I totally understand your perspective. But the perspective of someone who relies on their social security check, or benefits, or the extension of unemployment benefits, will be different that yours, and they will vote differently as a result.
Sure, and I dont blame them.

We need to ween future generations from that reliance though. People would be amazed to relearn how much they can do with the help of friends, family and their local communities.
 
Sure, and I dont blame them.

We need to ween future generations from that reliance though. People would be amazed to relearn how much they can do with the help of friends, family and their local communities.
I haven’t seen proof of weening future generations from that reliance without penalizing and depriving those who are already getting these benefits now. Friends, family and local communities are not able to hold up the less fortunate who are benefiting from social security, unemployment and goverment assisted health care.
 
I rarely see anything about euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, and human cloning on this Forum. Shouldn’t there be as much as on the one “non-negotiable”?
Since all politicians who support abortion enthusiastically support these also it really doesn’t become a separate issue.
 
How many babies has McCain killed?
It’s impossible to tell. It’s difficult to asses the damage that a bomb makes from several thousand feet above the earth. And let me address those that will says my comments are anti-military. I come from a long line of military people. My family, on both sides, has fought in every war of the 20th Century and now the 21st Century. One of my earliest memories was going to the funeral of my uncle who died a hero in Vietnam. My family thought that our involvement in Vietnam was wrong headed and voted for Nixon because he promised to end the war. We also loathed the hippie protestors and considered them un-American. None of this, however, should cause us to blind our eyes from the real consequences of war. I learned this at the feet of my uncles, father, cousins that actually went to war. Engaging in war is the sincerest abandonment of faith in Christ, jsutified or not. To quote Sherman, “war is hell”.
 
Nobody is promoting that part of that era in these forums. I’m sure there are some in this country, it would be naive to think otherwise. But things have changed, and it would be foolish not to recognize the differences and progress the new generations have made since then.
Yes, indeed. This is why i take issue with the comment that a poster, on this forum made, that we should return to the fifties where none of those “advancements” had been made. I would think myself foolish to want to return tot hat era. My comments were right on target.
 
Yes, indeed. This is why i take issue with the comment that a poster, on this forum made, that we should return to the fifties where none of those “advancements” had been made. I would think myself foolish to want to return tot hat era. My comments were right on target.
Returning to the fifties when sex wasn’t in your face everywhere you turned is not the same as wanting to return to the fifties when the last if the hangings were happening.
 
Returning to the fifties when sex wasn’t in your face everywhere you turned is not the same as wanting to return to the fifties when the last if the hangings were happening.
I think you should go back and review the back and forth. I pretty much made that same point. I suppose you eman without all the racist junk that was going then. He more or less accused of seeing racism in everything. He was wrong and you are wrong. And, it wasn’t nearly the last of the hangings. The treachery and inhumanity of the racists in society continued wll in to the sixties. Read the history, my brother.
 
I’ll vote to re-elect the President. The only Republican on the list who is marginally qualified is Romney, and I think he has two obstacles to overcome, neither of which is his doing: 1) he’s Mormon and 2) he’s from Massachusetts and so will get very few southern votes.

I believe that Obama is going to be the least popular president to be re-elected since Truman in 1948.
 
I’ll vote to re-elect the President. The only Republican on the list who is marginally qualified is Romney, and I think he has two obstacles to overcome, neither of which is his doing: 1) he’s Mormon and 2) he’s from Massachusetts and so will get very few southern votes.

I believe that Obama is going to be the least popular president to be re-elected since Truman in 1948.
As a Catholic can you tell us what Obama supports that gives you proportionate reason to vote for him in spite of his support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on de? It would also be helpful if you could give us a link to any teaching of the church that supports your position.
 
I believe that Obama is going to be the least popular president to be re-elected since Truman in 1948.
Agree. The rightists can rant about all the people better suited for the presidency than he, but I’m pretty sure that he’ll be back in 2013 in spite of their hatred…
 
As a Catholic can you tell us what Obama supports that gives you proportionate reason to vote for him in spite of his support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on de? It would also be helpful if you could give us a link to any teaching of the church that supports your position.
A Catholic is NOT a one issue voter, as much as you think he or she ought to be. 🤷
 
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