Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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Ironically, Doug Ingle was drunk during the recording of “In the Garden of Eden” (the tracks originally intended name) and slurred the lyrics, forming In A Gadda Davida and it has become a stoners mantra. So much for alcohol not being a drug…:rolleyes:
Yes, I heard about that. It was their only hit, but what a song- took up an entire side of their album.
 
Democrats should ask themselves that when a Cardinal of the Catholic Church is using that term, perhaps he has a point.
Or maybe he has a personal opinion. Even the Pope has personal opinions.
 
I am surprised (well not really) that so many on a CATHOLIC forum would vote for Obama-the most pro-abortion president in US history.

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17 minutes in the studio version, even longer live. :ouch:
They regularly headlined concerts in their heyday - but they were upstaged by a new band called Led Zeppelin who opened for them a few times. The lead guitarist Eric Brahn was only 17 when he played on the song. He died a few years ago.

Oops, don’t want to derail the thread! :o
 
I agree that there are those who hate the Democrat party. And maybe “the party of death” is a bit hyperbolic, but c’mon - so many of them support euthenasia, abortion on demand, embryonic stem cell research, etc. Like I said before though, if there was a pro-life Democrat running who I thought would make a difference then I’d vote for him/her over the other guy. So far that hasn’t happened.

Ishii
I have been a Democrat my whole life. Held office in the party. No ancestor of mine who could vote was ever anything but a Democrat. I don’t hate the Democrat Party. But I do hate what it has become, and there is no possibility whatever that I will support an abortion-supporting candidate. Since there have not been any prolife Democrats on my ballot for years, I do, in fact, vote Republican simply because they’re the only prolife people on the ballot.

Well, I’ll take that back. Last election I voted for a candidate for the County Commission that I personally knew to be a prolife Catholic candidate. It’s not too hard for a county-level Democrat officeholder to retain his integrity in the face of the abortion promoting influences. But it’s very difficult for even state-level Democrat candidates.
 
I understand your point, and there’s something to it. But one ought to also consider the possibility that Mass will go for Obama precisely because those who might oppose him give up because they don’t think there’s any point in it. I’m not a Romney fan, but Romney did win that state as a Republican, you know. It isn’t as if Mass NEVER bucks the far left.
You’re absolutely right and it’s way too soon to tell what will happen down the line. Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy’s seat in the Senate too. As the election gets closer, things may change.

One thing I know for certain is that I will never vote for Romney! I can’t believe the GOP would even consider him. Apart from his flip-flop on abortion, his record on job creation in Massachusetts was dismal. We ranked 47 or of 50 during his years as governor. Maybe it wasn’t all his fault, New England as a whole did terrible, but he certainly was not much of a economic leader at the state level.

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You’re absolutely right and it’s way too soon to tell what will happen down the line. Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy’s seat in the Senate too. As the election gets closer, things may change.

One thing I know for certain is that I will never vote for Romney! I can’t believe the GOP would even consider him. Apart from his flip-flop on abortion, his record on job creation in Massachusetts was dismal. We ranked 47 or of 50 during his years as governor. Maybe it wasn’t all his fault, New England as a whole did terrible, but he certainly was not much of a economic leader at the state level.

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The one Republican in the field who has a chance in the deep blue states of New England is Ron Paul. But, as you already pointed out, they didn’t even include him in the poll.
 
I see you describe yourself as Catholic.

Being pro-abortion and being Catholic is like being a polar bear and living in the Amazon, it just doesn’t work

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I’d learn how to read if I were you. Show me ONE post where I said that I am pro-abortion.

FYI, my wife was a worker in an alternatives-to-abortion clinic for years until she got burnout. I helped, acting as a taxi for women who needed rides to the clinic, to the doctors who were willing to do pro bono medicine, and acted, with others, as a bank.

So, friend, go pack it in. 😦
 
Or maybe he has a personal opinion. Even the Pope has personal opinions.
Absolutely! And lets not forget that one man’s personal opinion against the Democratic party does not automatically translate into a full scale Catholic Church endorsement of the Republican party! That is a leap of reasoning that has no justification.
 
I’d learn how to read if I were you. Show me ONE post where I said that I am pro-abortion.

FYI, my wife was a worker in an alternatives-to-abortion clinic for years until she got burnout. I helped, acting as a taxi for women who needed rides to the clinic, to the doctors who were willing to do pro bono medicine, and acted, with others, as a bank.

So, friend, go pack it in. 😦
I guess we minsuderstood-you didnt give Hillary Clintons Campign $1,000 in 2008???
 
Absolutely! And lets not forget that one man’s personal opinion against the Democratic party does not automatically translate into a full scale Catholic Church endorsement of the Republican party! That is a leap of reasoning that has no justification.
Can you point out anybody that said the Catholic Church endorsed Republican Party??? We keep seeing that canard thrown around, but the only people that say that is Democrat Catholics trying to rationalize their support of their party.
 
I guess we minsuderstood-you didnt give Hillary Clintons Campign $1,000 in 2008???
I did indeed. I considered her overall to be the best qualified candidate to be President. That doesn’t say that I am** pro**-abortion.
If that doesn’t satify you about my motives for supporting her, 🤷

P.S. “Show me ONE post where I said that I am pro-abortion” still holds.
 
Can you point out anybody that said the Catholic Church endorsed Republican Party??? We keep seeing that canard thrown around, but the only people that say that is Democrat Catholics trying to rationalize their support of their party.
I’ll support any politician who supports women-centered approaches to ending abortion, whether he or she is a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t like the current GOP approach, because I believe they don’t really care about saving women at all.
 
I’ll support any politician who supports women-centered approaches to ending abortion, whether he or she is a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t like the current GOP approach, because I believe they don’t really care about saving women at all.
Then have not followed the politics of abortion at all since roe V wade was imposed.
 
I’ll support any politician who supports women-centered approaches to ending abortion, whether he or she is a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t like the current GOP approach, because I believe they don’t really care about saving women at all.
“they” don’t care about savingn women at all? Can you explain what you mean here? What do you think motivates Rick Santorum?

Ishii
 
I did indeed. I considered her overall to be the best qualified candidate to be President. That doesn’t say that I am** pro**-abortion.
If that doesn’t satify you about my motives for supporting her, 🤷

P.S. “Show me ONE post where I said that I am pro-abortion” still holds.
There are no posts that say that because you are not pro-abortion. I still maintain, though, that supporting pro-abortion rights candidates (with money or votes) is tantamount to enabling and abetting the abortion industry indirectly - even if you didn’t vote for or support the candidate because of their abortion stance. Your $$ contribution to the pro-abortion rights Hillary Clinton is a strange and ironic (and incongruous) backdrop to your admirable grassroots support for crisis pregnancy centers. I am baffled as to how you reconcile the two. I know you’ll say - “but the GOP would ruin the country” etc. I still don’t understand given the facts, how you justify it. I do recognize that in your heart of hearts, you think you’re doing the right thing.

Ishii
 
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