Who's Going to Pay the Bills?: Purpose-Driven Coronavirus Business Shutdowns Cause Economic Catastrophe

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Ridgerunner said:
I still think having masks on all those people on the podium would have been creepy to some, ridiculous to some and persuasive to none.
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I would show humility - something Trump knows absolutely nothing about. I think he must be allergic to it.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
As I have said many times, Dr. Fauci cannot wear a mask in public when standing next to Trump who refuses to wear one. It would embarrass the president and he would be out of a job.
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Those two need to get their act together then and decide what message they want to convey.
 
Socrates92 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
As I have said many times, Dr. Fauci cannot wear a mask in public when standing next to Trump who refuses to wear one. It would embarrass the president and he would be out of a job.
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Those two need to get their act together then and decide what message they want to convey.
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That is very difficult when one of them is the boss and the other is the at-will employee. Although I agree entirely with your sentiment. I just wish that “getting their act together” would involve more of Trump listening to Fauci first.
 
Jeanne_S said:
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Which didn’t actually say anything or advance a position. So why bother?

Do you deny that it really isn’t very difficult to make yourself understood while wearing a mask? I am not a professional speaker, but I spent a few hours yesterday having my taxes done while wearing a mask and had absolutely no issues with the preparer understanding what I said at any time. So why do you say that someone who speaks for a living would find it “pretty difficult”?
 
That’s above my pay grade, Tucker," Murphy responded. “I wasn’t thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this … we looked at all the data and the science and it says people have to stay away from each other.”

THAT tells you all you need to know about this man, his beliefs, and who he serves.
 
whatistrue said:
It’s a mask, not a gag. Surely a trained professional can make themselves understood through a mask if Joe Average can.
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I watched Resurrection Matins from Slovakia last weekend. Two bishops serving while wearing masks. They chanted beautifully with the masks on.
 
COVID19 deaths are not running at a rate of 2% of the people who contract it. Deaths are 2% of the people who test positive. Since there aren’t enough tests to check everyone, only those with the severest symptoms and in the most vulnerable populations are being tested; therefore, COVID19 deaths are 2% of the people with the severest symptoms and in the most vulnerable populations.

The bad statistic you’ve repeated is much of what’s fueling the hysteria. Until we have enough tests so that everyone, or at least a large, randomized population, can be tested for 1. current infection and 2. previous infection, we simply won’t know the death rate.

The overload of the healthcare system would be an actual concern. But the death rate? At the moment, that’s bad numbers.
 
Another dictatorship:


“Close areas of the store—by cordoning them off, placing signs in aisles, posting prominent signs, removing goods from shelves, or other appropriate means—that are dedicated to the following classes of goods:
Carpet or flooring.
Furniture.
Garden centers and plant nurseries.
Paint.”

So, it’s not bad enough to keep people under house arrest. They’re also hampered from purchasing materials to accomplish something while they’re under house arrest, EVEN IN THE SMALL TOWN AREAS, where there is no COVID-19 problem.
 
Yeah, this is one of the most egregious examples. This governor is literally restricting the food supply via fiat. Has she not been reading the news about shortages?
 
You cannot also be in a boat with a motor by yourself but you can be in a canoe by yourself. You also cannot hunt by yourself. Hmmm… targetting hunters and fishers but not hippie canoers?
 
LeafByNiggle said:
hat is no comparison to falsifying objective scientific data.
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There isn’t a person of note who hasn’t been wrong at least once in this crisis. But the only one you accuse of “falsifying” scienfiic data is Trump, and on pretty flimsy grounds at that.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I just wish that “getting their act together” would involve more of Trump listening to Fauci first.
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Or perhaps Fauci listening to WHO or even himself less. Perhaps Trump listening to Fauci less.
Perhaps Fauci listening to Trump on occasion and Trump listening to Fauci on occasion. Both have speculated to things that didn’t turn out.
 
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