Why Am I for nationa healthcare?

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How about you purchase your own coverage…I also have debt like 99% of Americans and I manage to pay my monthly premium…think about it as an investment or a hedgefund…you hedging yourself against a catastrophe, which in this case would wipe you out. Grow up…it isn’t my responsibility, the governments, or any other Americans responsibility to financially support your family…if you need help, seek out a Charity or a Church…I do give those organizations my money with the expectation they provide for those who need a helping hand
That goes back to an old arguement nobody I applied at for a job that would pay me enough to do all you say I should do hired me, so I’m dead in the water. medical costs too much for charities or churches to be a factor thesedays. Come up to 2009. That is 1909 thinking.
 
I would gladly sell my home to pay for life-saving medical treatment for my spouse. I will not so gladly sell my home to pay the government.
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I have a daughter with sickle-cell anemia and a wife with bone degeneration who has already had one hip replacement, and I would gladly lose all of my worldly possessions to save either of them if I had to. What I have or own do not define who I am, and I am capable of rebuilding anything no matter what goes wrong. If I am too old, my other kids will have to take care of me. There is nothing wrong with the way things were in 1909. That’s why your supposed to have more than 2.11 children.
 
how about the people go out and get their own coverage and take some personal responsibility for their own problems and concerns, instead of the government jacking honest, hardworking citizens such as myself and the majority of Americans and using it to pay for those who do nothing to try to help themselves…I get sick and tired of liberals who like to take things that aren’t theirs and give them to other people.
Yes, I seem to remember Jesus telling the five thousand that if they were too lazy or stupid not to have brought their own bread and fish then they certainly wouldn’t be having any of his.

I pay 25% of my income in tax and national insurance. I am proud that our country runs the system that they do. Of course with that $1000 a month I could have a bigger flat screen TV, a newer car and the latest fashions. But I’d rather be helping the poor, the sick and the elderly than buying stuff I don’t need, don’t want and will end up in landfill. As for telling me, as you will, that if I spent my money then employment would be up and national wealth increased - have you heard of China and India? Of outsourcing? Of offshore investing because of the tax benefits? Of the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few?
 
Yes, I seem to remember Jesus telling the five thousand that if they were too lazy or stupid not to have brought their own bread and fish then they certainly wouldn’t be having any of his.

I pay 25% of my income in tax and national insurance. I am proud that our country runs the system that they do. Of course with that $1000 a month I could have a bigger flat screen TV, a newer car and the latest fashions. But I’d rather be helping the poor, the sick and the elderly than buying stuff I don’t need, don’t want and will end up in landfill. As for telling me, as you will, that if I spent my money then employment would be up and national wealth increased - have you heard of China and India? Of outsourcing? Of offshore investing because of the tax benefits? Of the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few?
Or you could have the government take less in taxes, pay less in insurance b/c the government could allow interstate competition, then you could give your money to a local charity who won’t waste it like a government beauracracy.

I recal Jesus saying render was is caeser’s to caeser and render what is God’s to God. SO why not advocate to render less to Caeser?
 
Or you could have the government take less in taxes, pay less in insurance b/c the government could allow interstate competition, then you could give your money to a local charity who won’t waste it like a government beauracracy.

I recal Jesus saying render was is caeser’s to caeser and render what is God’s to God. SO why not advocate to render less to Caeser?
In a “democracy” who is Caesar?
 
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There is nothing wrong with the way things were in 1909. .
Like anyother time in human history 1909 had its pluses and minuses. Yes family’s stuck together better in 1909. Yes more people went to church at that time. But on the otherhand Many areas of the western USA were still crawling with maurauding bandits, and still locked up people with conditions such as autism, and downs syndrome Many children were being disgigured by polio too. The operation to remove kidneystones didn’t exist yet, so I’d likely be dead, and the operation to reomove the appendix didn’t exist yet, so my dad would be dead from an apendicitis. You bet 1909 was great!
 
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I have a daughter with sickle-cell anemia and a wife with bone degeneration who has already had one hip replacement, and I would gladly lose all of my worldly possessions to save either of them if I had to. What I have or own do not define who I am, and I am capable of rebuilding anything no matter what goes wrong. If I am too old, my other kids will have to take care of me. There is nothing wrong with the way things were in 1909. That’s why your supposed to have more than 2.11 children.
What if those other kids moved out of state for jobs?
 
Yes, I seem to remember Jesus telling the five thousand that if they were too lazy or stupid not to have brought their own bread and fish then they certainly wouldn’t be having any of his.

I pay 25% of my income in tax and national insurance. I am proud that our country runs the system that they do. Of course with that $1000 a month I could have a bigger flat screen TV, a newer car and the latest fashions. But I’d rather be helping the poor, the sick and the elderly than buying stuff I don’t need, don’t want and will end up in landfill. As for telling me, as you will, that if I spent my money then employment would be up and national wealth increased - have you heard of China and India? Of outsourcing? Of offshore investing because of the tax benefits? Of the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few?
If we could get national insurance and keep taxes around 25%, you might not see such resistance. I already pay almost 30% of my income in taxes and pay for healthcare on top of that. The National healthcare plan being proposed will cost me even more than that, even if I don’t participate in a public option or subsidized plan. In other words, I’ll pay more and get less. Our government has a very poor track record of fiscal responsibilty, especially in the part of healthcare it already manages (Medicare, veterans benefits, etc.)

If this goes through and we don’t vote the bums out soon, I can see our children’s generation paying well over half their income in taxes - if the US monetary system hasn’t collapsed completely, that is.
 
How about you purchase your own coverage…I also have debt like 99% of Americans and I manage to pay my monthly premium…think about it as an investment or a hedgefund…you hedging yourself against a catastrophe, which in this case would wipe you out. Grow up…it isn’t my responsibility, the governments, or any other Americans responsibility to financially support your family…if you need help, seek out a Charity or a Church…I do give those organizations my money with the expectation they provide for those who need a helping hand
Since you have the answer to everything, why don’t you answer the first post article I put up. What is the first family the article writes about supposed to do? I’m itching to hear your answer on that one. I susgest you be carefull on how you answer it. Iv’e got several possible answers you might use and am ready shoot any of them down easily in flames.
 
If we could get national insurance and keep taxes around 25%, you might not see such resistance. I already pay almost 30% of my income in taxes and pay for healthcare on top of that. The National healthcare plan being proposed will cost me even more than that, even if I don’t participate in a public option or subsidized plan. In other words, I’ll pay more and get less. Our government has a very poor track record of fiscal responsibilty, especially in the part of healthcare it already manages (Medicare, veterans benefits, etc.)

If this goes through and we don’t vote the bums out soon, I can see our children’s generation paying well over half their income in taxes - if the US monetary system hasn’t collapsed completely, that is.
It’s propped up by one world governement insiders like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. It won’t collapse on it’s own, it will be collapsed when the insiders determine its a good time to, and nothing will be able to stop them from doing it. So take advatage of it while you can.
 
If government run health care is so wonderful, I would like to know why Canadians and British as well as those from other countries with government run health care come to the US and pay cash, out of pocket for health care??? I see this quite often where I work. What happens to others who cannot afford to flee to the good old USA???

I am not saying that there shouldn’t be some reform, however I don’t see a socialized system as the answer.
 
If government run health care is so wonderful, I would like to know why Canadians and British as well as those from other countries with government run health care come to the US and pay cash, out of pocket for health care??? I see this quite often where I work. What happens to others who cannot afford to flee to the good old USA???

I am not saying that there shouldn’t be some reform, however I don’t see a socialized system as the answer.
Ok Did you read my article I posted in the 1st post? What should those people do? Our society when it was originally concocted was based on the Swiss model. Now even Switzerland has a form of national healthcare. I think those people not loosing their fanny is a bit more important than the socialism debate.
 
The worst possible thing we can do is nothing.
This is the kind of approach to problem solving that results in bigger problems- and it is exactly the mentality that is driving this country into the ground…

“Nothing” is never the worst thing people can do- when people, particularly politicians, put their minds to it they often find there are much worse things than doing “nothing.”
 
This is the kind of approach to problem solving that results in bigger problems- and it is exactly the mentality that is driving this country into the ground…

“Nothing” is never the worst thing people can do- when people, particularly politicians, put their minds to it they often find there are much worse things than doing “nothing.”
With doing nothing we will have more cases like the article I put in the Op of this thread. Ruined lives. You better hope you never get an anurysm you life could be ruined too!
 
This is the kind of approach to problem solving that results in bigger problems- and it is exactly the mentality that is driving this country into the ground…

“Nothing” is never the worst thing people can do- when people, particularly politicians, put their minds to it they often find there are much worse things than doing “nothing.”
Too bad more people will have to die because of that mentality; its one thing to take that attitude when you have medical coverage, but when your on the other side of the fence and the tables are turned suddenly it becomes a priority.

That’s the problem in this country; its all about money which they claim they don’t have. Get rid of the special interest groups funding and end our military domination in the world to just our own shores and you’ll have more then enough money to fund health care for all.

We are one of the most powerful and richest countries in the industrial world and we have people needlessly dying because they can’t get proper medical treatment… Shame on this country.
 
Too bad more people will have to die because of that mentality; its one thing to take that attitude when you have medical coverage, but when your on the other side of the fence and the tables are turned suddenly it becomes a priority.

That’s the problem in this country; its all about money which they claim they don’t have. Get rid of the special interest groups funding and end our military domination in the world to just our own shores and you’ll have more then enough money to fund health care for all.

We are one of the most powerful and richest countries in the industrial world and we have people needlessly dying because they can’t get proper medical treatment… Shame on this country.
I’ll say it again. It is the law of the land that the federal government has to fund the military. It doesn’t have to fund large scale health care for all.

If this bothers you, have your represenatives in congress amend the constitution.

[Not that I don’t agree with you on some level, but I’m just pointing out current law]
 
With doing nothing we will have more cases like the article I put in the Op of this thread. Ruined lives. You better hope you never get an anurysm you life could be ruined too!
That doesn’t change the fact that “doing nothing” is hardly the worst thing we could do.

Logic like that has been used to justify all kinds of atrocities.

I would rather do nothing than do harm.
 
I’ll say it again. It is the law of the land that the federal government has to fund the military. It doesn’t have to fund large scale health care for all.

If this bothers you, have your represenatives in congress amend the constitution.

[Not that I don’t agree with you on some level, but I’m just pointing out current law]
It already has been done. It is the 1933 War powers act, which in effect had made the constitution null and void, proof" the excutive order’. If you want the constitution the law of the land again, repeal the 1933 war powers act and the 1935 finanial restorations acts.
 
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