Why Am I for nationa healthcare?

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I’d love to have a public sector job! But all my adult life Iv’e had to put up with the backstabbing, lying, cheating ,discrimination, and amorality of private sector jobs. :mad:
You almost sound like public sector jobs have none of these issues. Wow, where can I get one of those? 😉
 
Wabrams? Do I see an “SEIE Union Label” engraved on that brazier?!? 😉
 
That just went right over my head, sorry. :o
Sorry about that - it was supposed to be the SEIU label - Service Employees International Union. In this magnificent recovery that we are spending almost a Trillion dollars on (the Porkulous Bill, to be more precise), the greatest opportunity for jobs is in the SEIU, which happens to be the biggest support of this great President of ours.

Pure coincidence, of course. 😉
 
Sorry about that - it was supposed to be the SEIU label - Service Employees International Union. In this magnificent recovery that we are spending almost a Trillion dollars on (the Porkulous Bill, to be more precise), the greatest opportunity for jobs is in the SEIU, which happens to be the biggest support of this great President of ours.

Pure coincidence, of course. 😉
Silly mean spirited jokes like this are partly why I left the conservative movement. The one world governement insiders are using the liberal and conservative sides for their Heglian dialectic of controled conflict to gain their controled results and you guys are going right along with it.🤷 While I can’t stop it, I aim to take advantage of it as much as I can.
 
Silly mean spirited jokes like this are partly why I left the conservative movement. The one world governement insiders are using the liberal and conservative sides for their Heglian dialectic of controled conflict to gain their controled results and you guys are going right along with it.🤷 While I can’t stop it, I aim to take advantage of it as much as I can.
Silly and mean-spirited? Moi’?

And now you’ve made it to where I have to look up Heglian!!! Now THAT was mean-spirited!!!

Can I ask you. If Obama is serious about cutting the cost of health care, then why is he:
a) ignoring torte reform?
b) trying to exempt the SEIU from his proposed Cadillac insurance tax.

You can roll your eyes all you want to at all my racist-bigoted (and insert any more of the common accusations against conservatives) radical right wing comments, but you’ve got to admit that the SEIU is in Obama’s pocket… or is it the other way around. How many times has the president of the SEIU been to the white house?

Edit: BTW, Misspelling Heglian was very Hegelian of you. I think it was incredibly silly and mean-spirited of you to do that!
 
Silly mean spirited jokes like this are partly why I left the conservative movement. The one world governement insiders are using the liberal and conservative sides for their Heglian dialectic of controled conflict to gain their controled results and you guys are going right along with it.🤷 While I can’t stop it, I aim to take advantage of it as much as I can.
First off, now that I know what he meant, I think it is pretty darn funny. Second, you have got to be kdding me with that conspiracy theory stuff. I hear wally world is running a special on aluminum foil. 😃
 
Silly and mean-spirited? Moi’?

And now you’ve made it to where I have to look up Heglian!!! Now THAT was mean-spirited!!!

Can I ask you. If Obama is serious about cutting the cost of health care, then why is he:
a) ignoring torte reform?
b) trying to exempt the SEIU from his proposed Cadillac insurance tax.

You can roll your eyes all you want to at all my racist-bigoted (and insert any more of the common accusations against conservatives) radical right wing comments, but you’ve got to admit that the SEIU is in Obama’s pocket… or is it the other way around. How many times has the president of the SEIU been to the white house?

Edit: BTW, Misspelling Heglian was very Hegelian of you. I think it was incredibly silly and mean-spirited of you to do that!
Actually I’m neither a fan of Bush or OBama, but remember it is Bush is the Order of Skull and Bones member not Obama.Bush was the one whp signed the Medicare prescription plan that you conservatives complained about. You want to talk mean spirited! Your attitude twards my Op that started this thread and Pathia’s plight gives mean spirited a bad name. Don’t you dare even think of lecturing me about mean spirited.
 
First off, now that I know what he meant, I think it is pretty darn funny. Second, you have got to be kdding me with that conspiracy theory stuff. I hear wally world is running a special on aluminum foil. 😃
Right out of Rush Limbaugh’s talking points book.
 
Actually I’m neither a fan of Bush or OBama, but remember it is Bush is the Order of Skull and Bones member not Obama.Bush was the one whp signed the Medicare prescription plan that you conservatives complained about.
Yes, I complained about it. That just shows you that I don’t worship at the altar of Bush, either. What’s your point?
You want to talk mean spirited! Your attitude twards my Op that started this thread and Pathia’s plight gives mean spirited a bad name. Don’t you dare even think of lecturing me about mean spirited.
How does having a differing opinion make me mean-spirited? Have I been mean-spirited towards Pathia’s plight? Pathia certainly hasn’t indicated that I have in our various PM’s.

You, on the other hand, have been mean-spirited to me and others on this thread. You equate differing opinions with mean-spirited. Are you sure you’re not with CNN or MSNBC?
 
Yes, I complained about it. That just shows you that I don’t worship at the altar of Bush, either. What’s your point?

How does having a differing opinion make me mean-spirited? Have I been mean-spirited towards Pathia’s plight? Pathia certainly hasn’t indicated that I have in our various PM’s.

You, on the other hand, have been mean-spirited to me and others on this thread. You equate differing opinions with mean-spirited. Are you sure you’re not with CNN or MSNBC?
Well your equating me with mean spirited seems to be from the fact that I don’t use the usuall talking points and I come from my own set of premises which seems to frusterate you. You quite frankly send off very aloof vibes to me.
 
Well your equating me with mean spirited seems to be from the fact that I don’t use the usuall talking points and I come from my own set of premises which seems to frusterate you. You quite frankly send off very aloof vibes to me.
I don’t recall ever being frustrated on this thread, or even on these forums.

I like to keep it light-hearted, simply because we take our own opinions way too seriously. I mean, you are entitled to your own opinion, and I don’t expect us to agree on everthing, but you have that right. Maybe not a right to free health care, but a right to have the opinion that you deserve free health care! 😉

But one thing, don’t worry about me getting frustrated or aloof. These anonymous postings easily allow others to misread our attitudes.
 
I don’t recall ever being frustrated on this thread, or even on these forums.

I like to keep it light-hearted, simply because we take our own opinions way too seriously. I mean, you are entitled to your own opinion, and I don’t expect us to agree on everthing, but you have that right. Maybe not a right to free health care, but a right to have the opinion that you deserve free health care! 😉

But one thing, don’t worry about me getting frustrated or aloof. These anonymous postings easily allow others to misread our attitudes.
There’s nothing light-hearted about life or death situations not of one’s own choosing.
 
There’s nothing light-hearted about life or death situations not of one’s own choosing.
… and I haven’t cracked a single joke about your life or death situation.

Aspa has tried to take my comments way too seriously. That can cause the discussion to degrade into a flame-war (and get this thread closed), or we can remember that no matter what each other may think, we can still get along. I try to use levity to do that.

You’ve commented to me privately on many of the things I’ve posted on this thread, but you never said I was offensive in my comments. If I was offensive to you, then I wasn’t aware of it, which is why I didn’t stop. If so, then I’m sorry.
 
… and I haven’t cracked a single joke about your life or death situation.

Aspa has tried to take my comments way too seriously. That can cause the discussion to degrade into a flame-war (and get this thread closed), or we can remember that no matter what each other may think, we can still get along. I try to use levity to do that.

You’ve commented to me privately on many of the things I’ve posted on this thread, but you never said I was offensive in my comments. If I was offensive to you, then I wasn’t aware of it, which is why I didn’t stop. If so, then I’m sorry.
I haven’t really found anything in this thread to be amusing, I haven’t found anything to be insulting either though. But then I haven’t laughed in months, I just hurt too much. I mean sure I ‘laugh’. A fake laugh, to keep on a happy face, the charade that I paint my situation to those close to me in reality. It is ironic that I lie to them for their benefit, while I tell the truth to complete strangers, but such is life.
 
I haven’t really found anything in this thread to be amusing, I haven’t found anything to be insulting either though. But then I haven’t laughed in months, I just hurt too much. I mean sure I ‘laugh’. A fake laugh, to keep on a happy face, the charade that I paint my situation to those close to me in reality. It is ironic that I lie to them for their benefit, while I tell the truth to complete strangers, but such is life.
Keep in mind people take insults differently. Whereas some people are more apt to take specific things said as an insult others are more likely to take certain type of attitudes as an insult. Im the latter. I find the whole idea that antcedotal evedance , my example being red herrings, and lack of care about the poeple in the article I put in the Op totally insulting. We are so worried about a null and void constitution over basic human dignity it makes me sick. In the OP article a man and his family loose their house over him having a brain anurysm, and no one cares. You talk about freedom in reference to to health care, but with his home gone his freedom is gone with it, he is reduced to livng like a dog for the rest of his lif just because of a defect in an artury in his brain. If that was my situation I’d say just let me die.We need healthcare reform yesterday. We need to get something through imediately. We can perfect it later. No matter what plan would get passed and go through, you know will be tweeked in the coming years, thats the time to perfect it. If we are going to wait for the perfect plan before pssing it, everyone around now will be dead before it happens, if it happens. I actually have ideas of my own, but being pragmatic as I am, i know very well that many of those dieas would be rejected by both liberals and conservatives, so I actually don’t waist my time talking about it. Lastly one thing I find verry appalling here especially from the conservatives is the treatment of health care like its just another service out in consumer land no differnet from the clerk at the Burger King counter… I find this flippent attitude sickening. All I hear is cost cost cost., who care whats needed. Bust when the cost puts someone out on the street we suddenly could careless about the cost. If you are perfectly healthy,have that magic way of making the boss happy with you to give you a raise and appeal to the lowest common denominator in the market conservatism is for you. But many of us are not that LUCKY.
 
Enough to know he dislikes conspiracy theorists much more than liberals. I’mn a Chuck Harder fan.
Well, I don’t listen to him very often anymore; been at least 3 years since I listened to him regularly. Doesn’t matter is Rush says it or Alan Colmes says it, they both have rightly dismissed looney-toon conspiracies like you subscribe to about one world goverments, SKull and Bones society, etc. Now that the core of what you truly believe has *finally *come out, how can anyone take you seriously?
 
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