Why are atheists so unhappy?

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Bear_Claw said:
Oh I’m not unhappy, far from it, especially since I’ve left the church, I just speak up when I see things that are obviously wrong and discriminating.
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Then perhaps you have some words for your atheist comrades?
 
Bear_Claw said:
I know…I feel the same. It’s so much fun to laugh at the other’s expense, eh? Even if they don’t believe what you do…maybe ESPECIALLY then.

It’d like me laughing at them for believing there’s actually something after death and them spending their whole life in chasing after that… 😃
But…**if I did that I’d be called some pretty serious names and probably get banned from here…but it’s okay for them to say it…:rolleyes:
It’s the same on this forum as it is in life. Say anything against the christians and you are being singled out for hate speech, but they can laugh it up at our expense…
How about some equality and respect …nah, prolly too much to ask.
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Here here.

I told by one **I **was full of hate because I had issues with her bigoted views about homosexuals :confused:
 
Gabriella_San_S said:
Then perhaps you have some words for your atheist comrades?
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How many times must one repeat this…

Atheism is not a belief system it is NOT a community. All it is a rejection of a set of claims, it says NOTHING about what someone believes.
 
Charles_Darwin said:
How many times must one repeat this…

Atheism is not a belief system it is NOT a community. All it is a rejection of a set of claims, it says NOTHING about what someone believes.
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Your collective* ‘rejection of a set of claims’ binds you together more closely then you like to think! But you are right in asserting that this precludes the notion (and privilege) of enjoying* a community of your peers.
 
Bear_Claw said:
Then you should also have spoken out against the joke onthe previous page, no?
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I didn’t speak out because it was meant to be silly (and it wasn’t directed to anyone in particular either), it was simply a play on words.
 
Charles_Darwin said:
How many times must one repeat this…

Atheism is not a belief system it is NOT a community. All it is a rejection of a set of claims, it says NOTHING about what someone believes.
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And for the last time “Atheism” is not just a rejection of a set of claims, it is also a philosophy based on materialism. Furthermore, even if you reject our claims about God what makes you think God doesn’t exist at all in any form (higher being)? You have the choice of being a deist, you know.
 
josie_L said:
And for the last time “Atheism” is not just a rejection of a set of claims, it is also a philosophy based on materialism. Furthermore, even if you reject our claims about God what makes you think God doesn’t exist at all in any form (higher being)? You have the choice of being a deist, you know.
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Not necessarily. A lot of atheists subscribe to materialist philosophies, but that doesn’t mean that all do.
 
Shredderbeam said:
Not necessarily. A lot of atheists subscribe to materialist philosophies, but that doesn’t mean that all do.
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What*** else*** is there for an atheist to subscribe to, then the ***“materialist” ***philosophy? Isn’t that all that’s left after dismissing God from the equation?🤷
 
Gabriella_San_S said:
What*** else*** is there for an atheist to subscribe to, then the ***“materialist” ***philosophy? Isn’t that all that’s left after dismissing God from the equation?🤷
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Not really. The only thing all atheists reject is the existence of an anthropomorphic God (or gods) who are powerful enough to control the world. Haven’t you ever met an atheist who believes in ghosts, practices witchcraft, or follows every other superstition known man to mankind? I have. They probably miss the point of being an atheist just like some people miss the point of being a Christian, but it happens. And technically they’re still who they claim to be.
 
Gabriella_San_S said:
What*** else*** is there for an atheist to subscribe to, then the ***“materialist” ***philosophy? Isn’t that all that’s left after dismissing God from the equation?🤷
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Well, it’s possible to believe in the non-material without believing in a deity, since non-material and deity do not have the same definition. For example, a person might believe in a spirit world where there is no deity.
 
ahoyhoy said:
Not really. The only thing all atheists reject is the existence of an anthropomorphic God (or gods) who are powerful enough to control the world. Haven’t you ever met** an atheist who believes in ghosts, practices witchcraft, or follows every other superstition known man to mankind?** I have. They probably miss the point of being an atheist just like some people miss the point of being a Christian, but it happens. And technically they’re still who they claim to be.
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Perhaps “new age hedonist” would be a more suitable claim for them, then.
As for the *so-called *Christians, who often miss the point of what that means, they just need some good catechesis.😉
 
I feel Catholics who put down others are only showing their own unhappiness. If we are satisfied in our own religion and grace then we will not worry about others.
 
soma said:
I feel Catholics who put down others are only showing their own unhappiness. If we are satisfied in our own religion and grace then we will not worry about others.
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How are some of the Catholics here putting down others? And If you knew the truth would you not use that truth to enlighten others especially if they (non-believers) are intent on negating this truth?
 
soma said:
I feel Catholics who put down others are only showing their own unhappiness. If we are satisfied in our own religion and grace then we will not worry about others.
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Neither I not any of the Catholics on this thread have put anyone down. It’s just that I’ve noticed many atheists (though not all) have a rage against God.
 
RNRobert said:
Neither I not any of the Catholics on this thread have put anyone down. It’s just that I’ve noticed many atheists (though not all) have a rage against God.
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I guess that technically speaking, telling people that they are going to be tortured in hell for all eternity is not actually “putting anyone down”. But I wonder what the reaction would be if I claimed that my invisible sky daddy was going to do something similar to other people?

I mean, we all know it’s just make believe but it still isn’t really nice.
 
cerad said:
I guess that technically speaking, telling people that they are going to be tortured in hell for all eternity is not actually “putting anyone down”. But I wonder what the reaction would be if I claimed that my invisible sky daddy was going to do something similar to other people?

I mean, we all know it’s just make believe but it still isn’t really nice.
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Well, we Catholics don’t think “it’s just make believe.”

As for telling someone they’re going to hell, let me ask you this, if you saw someone about to drive off a cliff to his death, would you warn them, or keep your mouth shut so as “not to put them down?”
 
RNRobert said:
Neither I not any of the Catholics on this thread have put anyone down. It’s just that I’ve noticed many atheists (though not all) have a rage against God.
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A rage against God?? You are really missing the point. We are not angry with God, we just don’t believe in God. Many atheists do have something like a rage against religion but not God unless they aren’t actually atheists. Generally it is probably more of a frustration. Did you ever hear about some crazy cult and thought, how did people ever get suckered into that? Well that’s a lot like how it looks from this side of things except about 85% of the population is in the cult and most of them think that you are immoral for not being in it. Some of them apparently even think it is funny that they expect you to burn in hell for your lack of belief. Does that help you understand why atheists sometimes seem unhappy with the state of things?
 
Leela said:
A rage against God?? You are really missing the point. We are not angry with God, we just don’t believe in God. Many atheists do have something like a rage against religion but not God unless they aren’t actually atheists. Generally it is probably more of a frustration. Did you ever hear about some crazy cult and thought, how did people ever get suckered into that? Well that’s a lot like how it looks from this side of things except about 85% of the population is in the cult and most of them think that you are immoral for not being in it. Some of them apparently even think it is funny that they expect you to burn in hell for your lack of belief. Does that help you understand why atheists sometimes seem unhappy with the state of things?
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Yes, Leela, that does help me to understand why you and the other atheists are so unhappy. I’m sorry you have ‘a rage against religion’, although I’m not sure that you can exclude God from religion. Whatever the reasons for your frustration, I’m certain that it is difficult for all of you to live in this kind of turmoil, I’m sorry for that as well.
If my play on words which referenced hell, offended (or just scared) any of you here on this thread, I’m sorry for that too. I’d love nothing more than to meet you all in heaven.🙂
Thanks for coming to CAF for this discussion, and for sharing the pain in your hearts.
God bless you,
Gabriella
 
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