Why are atheists so unhappy?

[josie_L]

The banning I can sort of understand, He didn’t come across as a pleasant person. Deleting his posts though I think is an injustice. Just because we don’t like what someone else says doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be allowed to say them. This is a forum to discuss “Non-Catholic” religious views is it not? his views where about as “Non-Catholic” as it gets. Wiping them from view seems cowardice to me. It makes me fear that I may be soon to follow!:angel1:

No. he wasn’t pleasant but we could have worked on that I bring out the best in people. But I agree I don’t think they needed to wipe out his posts. I don’t believe he saw it coming though because he was still viewing the threads when I saw “banned” written under his username. I kinda feel sad about it. I don’t think you have anything to fear though as long as you can voice your opinion more or less civilly. Although I must say I’m a little confused as I’ve seen a lot worse said to people and they weren’t banned. Heck, I was called “insane” by one poster and nothing was done except to lock the thread we were participating in. Even the “Atheism Paradox” thread was closed because some of the atheists, one really. was rude and he wasn’t banned nor were his posts deleted. I think it depends on who’s moderating.

 

[josie_L]

Those are muslims, one of the other two of the big three Abrahamic religions. A little older than catholicism a lot more violent. I’m guessing you already know that though.

Actually, Catholicism is older by a 600 year gap with regard to the religion of Islam.

 

[JordanSRT]

Actually, Catholicism is older by a 600 year gap with regard to the religion of Islam.

oops, I meant to say younger I was thinking catholicism is peaceful islam is opposite of that…

 

[josie_L]

oops, I meant to say younger I was thinking catholicism is peaceful islam is opposite of that…

By the way I haven’t replied to your response to the question I posed because I just don’t feel in the mood to argue right now. But I’ll be sure to do so tomorrow.

P.S. I have an arsenal prepared so be ready.

 

[JordanSRT]

By the way I haven’t replied to your response to the question I posed because I just don’t feel in the mood to argue right now. But I’ll be sure to do so tomorrow.

P.S. I have an arsenal prepared so be ready.

I will do my best, good night and sweet dreams. I’d also like to think that we don’t argue, we talk.

 

[StrawberryJam]

By the way I haven’t replied to your response to the question I posed because I just don’t feel in the mood to argue right now. But I’ll be sure to do so tomorrow.

P.S. I have an arsenal prepared so be ready.

I have to say your evangelism style is rather unique. Threats can work in some cases, I suppose.

 

[josie_L]

I have to say your evangelism style is rather unique. Threats can work in some cases, I suppose.

Strawberry Jam I was joking. And if you read my conversation with Jordan (the man who I was speaking with) you can tell that he understood this. God bless.

 

[josie_L]

I will do my best, good night and sweet dreams. I’d also like to think that we don’t argue, we talk.

Sorry Jordan, I had some pressing matters on a couple other threads that were in dire need of the truth. Well, you said that science can answer all questions, I want to ask you if science can answer how consciousness came into being if only matter (as per the definition atheists and naturalists give it, i.e., dead, brute, mindless . . .) exists?

P.S. I hope I hear from you soon.

 

[SHW]

I don’t think that all atheists “on earth” are unhappy. However, I do think that every atheist’s “eternity” will be unhappy.

Many atheists cannot fathom that God would love us so much that He would send His own Son to redeem us from Adam’s Original Sin and our own personal sins and this is because they either do not understand and/or they do not want to comprehend that love requires sacrifice in order to be true love.

They also do not think that Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross was that big of a deal since many other convicted criminals were killed in this same way. (Except, of course, that He was perhaps “supposedly” innocent of any wrongdoing.)

What they do not realize is that Jesus’ crucifixion was not ordinary. He had the weight of all the sins of the world (past, present, and future) pressing on Him, this weight crushing/pressing the very lifeblood out of Him, while He suffered in agony on the cross. This is why He died after only three hours on the cross and this is why Pilate marveled that Jesus was already dead when Joseph of Arimathea asked for the Body of Jesus. (Mark 15:43-45) The soldier pierced His side with a spear and the last of His Blood and Water poured forth from this wound. (John 19:33-35) Because of His great and perfect love for us, He totally emptied Himself of His lifeblood for our redemption. (John 15:13)

 

[reisender]

Many atheists cannot fathom that God would love us so much that He blah blah blah

You can stop right there.
You do not understand the very basic notion of atheism. It’s really very easy.
Atheists do not believe in gods.

Try this. “Christians cannot fathom that Godzilla is capable of jumping all the way to the moon”
Right. Presumably christians don’t believe in Godzilla in the first place. Arguing over whether or not he can jump to the moon assumes that he exists.

they either do not understand and/or they do not want to comprehend that love requires sacrifice in order to be true love.

non sequitur
This has nothing to do with gods. And you don’t get to decide the definition of love.

 

[josie_L]

You can stop right there.
You do not understand the very basic notion of atheism. It’s really very easy.
Atheists do not believe in gods.

Try this. “Christians cannot fathom that Godzilla is capable of jumping all the way to the moon”
Right. Presumably christians don’t believe in Godzilla in the first place. Arguing over whether or not he can jump to the moon assumes that he exists.

non sequitur
This has nothing to do with gods. And you don’t get to decide the definition of love.

So love is not about sacrifice? Would like to tell us what it is then? :

 

[StrawberryJam]

Sorry Jordan, I had some pressing matters on a couple other threads that were in dire need of the truth. Well, you said that science can answer all questions, I want to ask you if science can answer how consciousness came into being if only matter (as per the definition atheists and naturalists give it, i.e., dead, brute, mindless . . .) exists?

P.S. I hope I hear from you soon.

Science does not claim to have all answers to all questions.

Sorry Jordan.

 

[SHW]

You can stop right there.
You do not understand the very basic notion of atheism. It’s really very easy.
Atheists do not believe in gods.

This has nothing to do with gods. And you don’t get to decide the definition of love.

Please speak for yourself only and do not make a blanket statement for all atheists. Atheists differ in what they perceive constitutes atheism.

Many people are atheists because of what I have written and you denying this fact will not make it fiction.

I can define “love” in this way if I so choose. True love is not selfish in any manner, way, or form. It does not seek self-interest.

 

[JordanSRT]

Sorry Jordan, I had some pressing matters on a couple other threads that were in dire need of the truth. Well, you said that science can answer all questions, I want to ask you if science can answer how consciousness came into being if only matter (as per the definition atheists and naturalists give it, i.e., dead, brute, mindless . . .) exists?

P.S. I hope I hear from you soon.

Sorry I’ve been away we’re super busy at work lately. I’ll answer you question then I’m off to bed, sorry. While I do believe science can answer everything, I’m fully aware that it ‘hasn’t’ answered everything. 50 years ago if you told someone we’d be going to the moon, you’d be thought crazy. Does thst mean space travel is not possible? No of course not since we now travel into space regularly. Just because science cannot answer a question today doesn’t mean we won’t be able to answer it tomorrow.

Good night Josie and sweet dreams

and to everyone else Peace Love and Happiness to you and yours.

 

[StrawberryJam]

Sorry I’ve been away we’re super busy at work lately. I’ll answer you question then I’m off to bed, sorry. While I do believe science can answer everything, I’m fully aware that it ‘hasn’t’ answered everything. 50 years ago if you told someone we’d be going to the moon, you’d be thought crazy. Does thst mean space travel is not possible? No of course not since we now travel into space regularly. Just because science cannot answer a question today doesn’t mean we won’t be able to answer it tomorrow.

Good night Josie and sweet dreams

and to everyone else Peace Love and Happiness to you and yours.

:hug3:

I misunderstood the context of your post.

I agree in time, we will know much more.

 

[josie_L]

Sorry I’ve been away we’re super busy at work lately. I’ll answer you question then I’m off to bed, sorry. While I do believe science can answer everything, I’m fully aware that it ‘hasn’t’ answered everything. 50 years ago if you told someone we’d be going to the moon, you’d be thought crazy. Does thst mean space travel is not possible? No of course not since we now travel into space regularly. Just because science cannot answer a question today doesn’t mean we won’t be able to answer it tomorrow.

Good night Josie and sweet dreams

and to everyone else Peace Love and Happiness to you and yours.

There is only so much science can answer (it has limitations) and it has nothing to do with time constraints, for example, you cannot expect to believe that one day science will prove the existence of God?

p.s. Good night Jordan and God bless you and your family.

 

[Jefree]

On a totally unrelated note, have you ever noticed how intelligent people are often less happy than stupid people? I think there are some stats on that somewhere…

But yeah… atheists don’t even have a good reason to be atheist if it doesnt make them happy all the time, I don’t get it.

 

[SSTeacher]

Right. Presumably christians don’t believe in Godzilla in the first place. Arguing over whether or not he can jump to the moon assumes that he exists.

Hi reisender,

I was wondering if you believe that Jesus Christ and Muhammad were real people in history that actually existed and walked the earth just as we do today?

Curiously,
Mick

 

[JordanSRT]

There is only so much science can answer (it has limitations) and it has nothing to do with time constraints, for example, you cannot expect to believe that one day science will prove the existence of God?

p.s. Good night Jordan and God bless you and your family.

I do not think the existence of god will ever be or can be disproved. I don’t believe you can prove something does not exist. I do think the ‘probability’ of god will drop to a sufficient level that only the hard core fundies will still believe. As far as science having limitations. It’s only limited by the ignorance of people like George Bush.

 

[JordanSRT]

On a totally unrelated note, have you ever noticed how intelligent people are often less happy than stupid people? I think there are some stats on that somewhere…

But yeah… atheists don’t even have a good reason to be atheist if it doesn’t make them happy all the time, I don’t get it.

I have a very good reason to be Atheist. God is not real and I think does more harm in the world than good. If you lived back in the day when everyone believed the Earth was flat but you and a few others knew in your hearths that it was round and that all the current science pointed to it being round. Would you not want to tell everybody what you knew and help them see the light. How much do you suppose exploration of our planet was held back because they were afraid of falling off the edge of the Earth. What would do if you thought you had the power to stop that?