Really? You have solid evidence for the bolded part of your statement?
Because if they believed/practiced moral absolutism they would not have committed the crimes they did.
Moral Absolutism was not under attack in medieval Europe as it is under attack now for the aforementioned reasons mentioned earlier. People have always to some extent practiced moral relativism but in a society that recognized moral absolutes, this changed with the advancement of atheistic/secular thought as we see more and more people deny the (logical) reality of moral absolutes.
Actually God is Love. Big difference.no we feel this because we chose to you can only think of one thing at a time and you can think of good or bad but you need to make the choice. your thoughts become your reality if you think good thoughts you will be happy. i think your bible says “keep every thought captive” and this is why.
god douse not have empathy sadness and loss because those emotions lead to suffering and god is the absence of suffering.
Oh, and by the way I said “Christianity,” not the bible. Try to be a little more rigorous, Mr. Darwin.
How do you know something is moral? Because society said so?
If society told you to kill Jews would that make it moral? It did in secular systems of the 20th century.
Your diatribe simply proves my case, and answers my question posed above. You are petulant, and angry like a spoiled child (or a faithful brown shirt). You admit yourself that you’d be “as well” in worshipping Hitler as God. You would make a proper ubermensche of the Third Reich.
Ah yes we should all miss those good old days of slavery, Puritan torture, Catholic inquisitions, religious superstition and paranoia, people basing their lives on bizarre mythology … wow I see your point (I feel so much more enlightened now
)I have a suggestion. When you post, ditch the sarcasm and ignorance. You aren’t helping your cause against God. For example, you should know that slavery was opposed by the Vatican, and participating in the slave trade in any capacity whatsoever would get you excommunicated. Study your history. In might cure you of the paranoia you feel about God.Ah yes we should all miss those good old days of slavery, Puritan torture, Catholic inquisitions, religious superstition and paranoia, people basing their lives on bizarre mythology … wow I see your point (I feel so much more enlightened now
Considering the numbers of prisoners and other sinners, I now ask you…isn’t God awesome in sending His only Son to be the Savior of the world? And if we all** believed and obeyed Him, wouldn’t we all be happier?I remember seeing a study looking at the percentage of prisoners in US jails (delineated according to religion). A fraction of 1% of all US prisoners claim to be atheist or agnostic, while Roman Catholics are the largest group in our prisons (over one third of all convicts are Catholic), and Protestants run a close second. Mind you … it’s not like we’re as small of a minority as we used to be (indeed some estimates put our numbers at over 10% of the US population).
So now I ask, considering numbers like that … who is truly more depressed? Indeed theists are more likely to be serial killers, racists, and just about every other bad thing you can think of. Yet you probably read some obscure study (no doubt by a theist proponent) that says we’re depressed
Then all you really need to know is the freedom of repentance and the embrace of our All-forgiving God!
A single “act” of submission on your part, to God’s majesty might clear up your confusion.
I didn’t base my comments on any “study” (like the old bromide says, there are three kinds of untruths, lies, damn lies and statistics) but simply on my life experience, in talking with people and reading what they wrote. Indeed, some of the posts on this thread simply prove my point.I remember seeing a study looking at the percentage of prisoners in US jails (delineated according to religion). A fraction of 1% of all US prisoners claim to be atheist or agnostic, while Roman Catholics are the largest group in our prisons (over one third of all convicts are Catholic), and Protestants run a close second. Mind you … it’s not like we’re as small of a minority as we used to be (indeed some estimates put our numbers at over 10% of the US population).
So now I ask, considering numbers like that … who is truly more depressed? Indeed theists are more likely to be serial killers, racists, and just about every other bad thing you can think of. Yet you probably read some obscure study (no doubt by a theist proponent) that says we’re depressed
Excellent post!Charles,
Oh, and by the way I said “Christianity,” not the bible. Try to be a little more rigorous, Mr. Darwin.
But that is precisely my point, Charles. Society! What society have you been living in? The West? What’s the biggest influence on ethical development in the West for the last 2000 years? Christian philosophy, or, more recently, reaction against it. If not for Christianity your societal norms would be for rich men alone; slavery would be legal (and moral–just look at non-Christian cultures today); women would be property; science would be trapped into the cyclic philosophy that preceded Christianity; and you would likely be celebrating easter with the temple prostitutes. Even romance and chivalry would not exist without Christianity. It never did before. Mimetic violence would still be the norm, and not one of us would think any differently. Christ exposed the hidden truth behind the veil of cultural myths, however. Victims are never guilty. That set the West on a course for human rights.
How do you know something is moral? Because society said so?
If society told you to kill Jews would that make it moral? It did in secular systems of the 20th century.
Your diatribe simply proves my case, and answers my question posed above. You are petulant, and angry like a spoiled child (or a faithful brown shirt). You admit yourself that you’d be “as well” in worshipping Hitler as God. You would make a proper ubermensche of the Third Reich.
By the way, I am not a “fun-de-mentalist”, but you may want to try your schtick on them. It may even work.
Ah yes, and the state sponsored atheism of the 20th century is much more enlightened…Ah yes we should all miss those good old days of slavery, Puritan torture, Catholic inquisitions, religious superstition and paranoia, people basing their lives on bizarre mythology … wow I see your point (I feel so much more enlightened now
I’ll have to remember*** that*** one , when I’m dealing with my in-laws.
Thanks for the posting!and don’t forget deadly, borne of a brutal despair…Ah yes, and the state sponsored atheism of the 20th century is much more enlightened…
Sad but true…:sad_yes:
If you don’t believe in God, how can you be angry at Someone who doesn’t exist?
I have never read so much nonsense in all my life. I am going out now, but i will get you to you on this.
Don’t you proof-read your own text?
I do seem to recall that the Celts (a broad term for Europeans, really, not so much specifically Irish/Scottish as the term is popularized now) held women in high regard. Something to do with their place within the folk religions as “priestesses” and healers, I think.
…not to mention queens…
gotta love the logic of trying to create a fictitious nexus between communists and non-theists. Communism didn’t like religion because they felt it was used by the ruling class to manipulate the masses. Atheists and agnostics don’t adhere to religion because we simply don’t believe its claims (no atheist I’ve ever come across seeks to infringe on any ones religious rights).Ah yes, and the state sponsored atheism of the 20th century is much more enlightened…