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zaffiroborant
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You’re right it was a Catholic (guessing from his explanations in other posts) that commented you were “judging without mercy” so then yes the LDS were ok with your posts
Why are people mormon considering it is obvioulsy fabricated?
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zaffiroborant
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Some of it he gleaned from a website??? A couple of months ago he couldn’t even identify reconciliation as one of the things required of an active Catholic. He mentioned retreats, the Rosary and a few other things not required but couldn’t come up with reconciliation. He gets all his Catholicism from the web, he found out he had to go beyond Father O’Malley.MelanieAnne;5582484:
Glow little glow worm, glimmer glimmerSo do they shine? These things you GLEAMED from a website?
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MelanieAnne
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WhyMe is not a Catholic. I doubt WhyMe ever WAS a Catholic. It’s a role being played. And not well.
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why_me
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And I do believe that we may know the catholic because maybe he or she posts here too. Both posters seem to be into dogma. But I could be wrong in my assumption.You’re right it was a Catholic (guessing from his explanations in other posts) that commented you were “judging without mercy” so then yes the LDS were ok with your posts
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why_me
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Trying to get catholics to show more mercy, kindness, charity and respect to the mormon posters is hardly a wrong endeavor. First, it will present the faith more positively to people. Second, I don’t believe that contention is from Christ but from the devil. Third, as human beings we should treat other human beings with dignity.
I do believe that you once put me on ignore. Perhaps you missed my answers. I see myself as doing nothing wrong in that regard. However, I may have other things to worry about if I receive the Eucharist because of sins that I may commit. But with your objections or reasons I have no problem receiving th Eucharist.
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why_me
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I think that priests can learn a lot from Father O’ Malley. In fact, we can all learn a lot from him, especially in Going My Way where he shows thought, kindness, respect, and charity toward others, especially in the end of the film where he gives the old priest a beautiful present. The last lines are wonderful.
I was glad to discover where it was on the website. The manual should be in every church so that catholics can make a more through confession. And of course, not one catholic commented about what it asked about the treatment of others and whether they were at fault but hopefully, they can think about their treatment of other people of different creeds and faiths.
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why_me
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Your angel might just be a little sad or tired that you are provoking the mormons…something to think about.
Took me weeks to finally learn how to change it though!
But I like the picture too.
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MelanieAnne
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If you receive the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin you do so at your peril. You have accepted another faith, you have been baptized into that faith and persist in your belief in the truthfulness of that faith. You are not a Catholic and to receive the Eucharist in such a condition is to damn yourself.
This is not an issue about whether or not YOU think you have a problem. This is Canon Law. You self-excommunicated yourself when you became a Mormon. You are not a Catholic and you are not worthy to receive the Eucharist as long as you remain an apologist for Mormonism. This is just a fact. A fact that you have perhaps ignored and perhaps may continue to ignore.
My opinion is that you ignore all these things because you are not a Catholic, you do not receive the Eucharist and you write all these things in the forum to provoke Catholics as well as a backhanded way to criticize them and their faith.
But if that is wrong, if you are actually receiving the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin, you are asking to go to Hell. In the end, there are only 2 places we can go ~ heaven, or hell, forever. By receiving the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin, you are choosing hell. Is that plain enough?
Stephen168
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Whyme is on the way to fabricating a new religion just like Joseph Smith
But there is a clear case to be made that Mormonism is not a sham
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zaffiroborant
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Oh so Catholic priests need to learn charity and respect, I see. More backhanded compliments.
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MelanieAnne
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WhyMe obviously doesn’t know any Catholic priests.
We need to stop treating WhyMe as if he/she is, or ever was, Catholic. If he/she once was, he/she is not now. This is a game WhyMe plays to provoke Catholics and engage in unproductive dalog.
Stephen168
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The Book of Mormon as defined by Joseph Smith has been proved to be a work of fiction.
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ParkerD
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Stephen,
I think that it is totally fine for a person such as yourself to declare your belief that the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction. I think it is all for the best, for if you are looking for a work of fiction, you will certainly find reasons to make it into that, and then you can go on your way thinking what a fine thing you have done for yourself and then concentrate on studying the Bible which will stand you in good stead and you will be fine with the Bible. Have a good day, and enjoy the positive nature of your studies of the Holy Bible, with its great and lasting message of peace, joy and love for all people.
Stephen168
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It is not my declaration. Joseph Smith said the Book of Mormon was the story of the SOURCE of the people of this continent (North America). Source as in where they come from, where was their beginning, the source. Scholars have proved that statement to be false, so the Book of Mormon as defined by Joseph Smith is fiction as proven by scholars. Now Mormonism seems to be quickly redefining what the Book of Mormon is about so they might still call it true but it is false by Smith’s definition.
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dianaiad
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Would you care to show me where the Book of Mormon claims that it is the source of all the peoples of ‘this’ continent, or that 'this continent" means “North America?”
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ParkerD
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Stephen,
I’m not sure of the quote to which you are referring. I would be happy to discuss the quote itself with you if you would care to elaborate. I am not trying to second guess your statement–just to understand what quote you have in mind.
Stephen168
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interesting
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MelanieAnne
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Stephen, I guess it can mean anything someone chooses to have at mean at any given time and place.
In contrast, God is eternal and unchanging.
Stephen168
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I agree and another reason I know Mormonism to be a fabrication of Joseph Smith.
What I thought was ‘interesting’ was she seems to think that Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon are the same thing/person. Or maybe she just doesn’t want me to look in the Pearl of Great Price.
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ParkerD
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Stephen,
I now see that you were referring here to the following verses in the Pearl of Great Price:
33 He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people.
34 He said there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang.
You may or may not be familiar with part of the Book of Mormon account that tells of more than one group of people who migrate north from the main group described in the account itself. More than once, a prophet-leader also goes north to that other group or groups of people to teach them also. So indeed the North American continent can be assumed correctly to have peoples who would be descended from these original migrating groups. Their descendants most likely intermarried with others. (The Book of Mormon indicates there would be other people within the Americas at various points in time, all “brought by the hand of the Lord.” (2 Nephi 1:6))
It may also be the case that places such as “Zarahemla” were in North America, most likely Mexico but possibly within the area now defined as the United States.
“The source from whence they sprang” would mean “the origin”, and could mean more than one origin. “An account” does not mean “a complete account” nor “an all-encompassing account.”
So I disagree with your statement, though I do see where you could draw the conclusion you have drawn.
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