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Christmysavor
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Read Scott’s books I’ve read many of them and am reading one now .I like his books he is one of my favorite Catholic authors along with Stephen k Ray.
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Tis_Bearself
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Sure, and it wouldn’t be the first time that “some priests and lay Catholics” have taught the wrong stuff. However, it is also clear that a large number of “priests and lay Catholics”, including those teaching in the Catholic schools and those handing out Bibles to married couples and suggesting they read them together, were teaching something totally different.
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Augustinian
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That’s common sense. Catholic book stores have been openly selling bibles to civilians for many, many decades. They wouldn’t sell them if it was contraband.
po18guy
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Ask your parents: Does pastor ever say “Behold the Lamb of God”? No? Red flag.
If pastor ever did say that, what would he hold up? Anything other than the “New Testament” in Christ’s Blood would be another red flag.
Where did Jesus teach that his disciples must have bibles in the pews? Or bibles at all?
The bible is irreplaceable, but Christ in His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity is infinitely superior to the bible.
This is hyperbolic, but when I see the Lord coming on the clouds of heaven, I’m going to roll up my bible and smoke it! When the perfect arrives, the imperfect passes away. 1 Corinthians 13:10.
If pastor ever did say that, what would he hold up? Anything other than the “New Testament” in Christ’s Blood would be another red flag.
Where did Jesus teach that his disciples must have bibles in the pews? Or bibles at all?
The bible is irreplaceable, but Christ in His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity is infinitely superior to the bible.
This is hyperbolic, but when I see the Lord coming on the clouds of heaven, I’m going to roll up my bible and smoke it! When the perfect arrives, the imperfect passes away. 1 Corinthians 13:10.
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MonteRCMS
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I have ALWAYS asked my pastors to say … what I refer to as … a “narrated Mass”.
It’s a real Mass … but every few seconds, they explain what they are doing and why.
Little things … what we used to call the “lavabo” … the washing of the hands of the priest.
… an explanation of "Lord, I am not worthy that you should come under my roof … " … These were the words of the Roman Centurion … a pagan soldier/commander … who had MORE FAITH in Jesus than anyone else HE ever encountered … they tried to change it and abolish it … took 50 years but we finally got it back.
Who picks the daily readings? [Actually, I found a book in a drawer in the sacristy … and these are from the BIBLE … and the diocese publishes the list of what readings are read on which date.]
AND there are optional readings.
I used to LOVE to “pick fights” with the priest over the readings of the day … not really fights. But I always preferred the optional readings.
Sometimes, the optional readings were favorites of the Saint of the DAY.
I always LOVED the saint of the DAY.
Sometimes, a guest or visiting priest didn’t show up. So I would get a call and they would ask me if I was ok to do a Communion Service.
And I got to pick the readings.
Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion are not allowed to deliver a homily or sermon, but you could offer a “reflection”, so I would wave the diocesan book … and just talk about the “Saint of the Day”.
The pastors need to explain all of this stuff.
One of my friends said that Catholics pick up Catholic teachings by “osmosis”, where as, as one of our work mates said, in India, the Hindu’s STUDY religion.
It’s a real Mass … but every few seconds, they explain what they are doing and why.
Little things … what we used to call the “lavabo” … the washing of the hands of the priest.
… an explanation of "Lord, I am not worthy that you should come under my roof … " … These were the words of the Roman Centurion … a pagan soldier/commander … who had MORE FAITH in Jesus than anyone else HE ever encountered … they tried to change it and abolish it … took 50 years but we finally got it back.
Who picks the daily readings? [Actually, I found a book in a drawer in the sacristy … and these are from the BIBLE … and the diocese publishes the list of what readings are read on which date.]
AND there are optional readings.
I used to LOVE to “pick fights” with the priest over the readings of the day … not really fights. But I always preferred the optional readings.
Sometimes, the optional readings were favorites of the Saint of the DAY.
I always LOVED the saint of the DAY.
Sometimes, a guest or visiting priest didn’t show up. So I would get a call and they would ask me if I was ok to do a Communion Service.
And I got to pick the readings.
Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion are not allowed to deliver a homily or sermon, but you could offer a “reflection”, so I would wave the diocesan book … and just talk about the “Saint of the Day”.
The pastors need to explain all of this stuff.
One of my friends said that Catholics pick up Catholic teachings by “osmosis”, where as, as one of our work mates said, in India, the Hindu’s STUDY religion.
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petra22
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My DH was taught Catholics are to be hated, shunned and never taken seriously. They are the devil. The Catholic Church is the anti-christ. He still believes a lot of that even after many years of marriage. It’s in his DNA so to speak. I can’t really understand how we can get along in this marriage (but for the grace of God!) What I’m saying is that people get wrong ideas from people around them while they are growing up. Unless God intervenes… and I pray daily… he’ll believe those lies until he dies…
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petra22
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I can only speak for myself but when I was a very young child my Catholic convert grandmother would read her bible at the table at night. I thought it was the biggest book I had ever seen. So I asked her if she had read that whole thing and she said, “Yes, many times!” Years later, (decades, really) I told myself if she read it MANY times, then I could read it once. And I did from cover to cover. I have to admit that the OT was difficult to get through the first time. But the second time!!! It made more sense. And today I can say that I have read it cover to cover at least twice…
I don’t suppose I am saying anything new to this thread.
But the main reason Catholic churches don’t generally have bibles in the pews is because the Mass is for liturgical worship and Bible study is not “liturgical worship”. Bible study is considered, well, study.
Many (although not all) Catholic parishes provide the texts necessary for liturgical worship, including the prescribed biblical passages for the liturgy of the day. The priest or deacon will preach about how the congregation can relate the day’s readings to our daily lives but it is not intended that this be a discussion.
There are Catholic parishes which hold bible studies but they will be outside of Mass.
I would also note (but not necessarily recommend) that if someone at Mass has a personal question or thought about a biblical reading that they probably possess a very powerful electronic bible study tool in their pocket or purse.
But the main reason Catholic churches don’t generally have bibles in the pews is because the Mass is for liturgical worship and Bible study is not “liturgical worship”. Bible study is considered, well, study.
Many (although not all) Catholic parishes provide the texts necessary for liturgical worship, including the prescribed biblical passages for the liturgy of the day. The priest or deacon will preach about how the congregation can relate the day’s readings to our daily lives but it is not intended that this be a discussion.
There are Catholic parishes which hold bible studies but they will be outside of Mass.
I would also note (but not necessarily recommend) that if someone at Mass has a personal question or thought about a biblical reading that they probably possess a very powerful electronic bible study tool in their pocket or purse.
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