Why are they still protesting? What do they want?

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Online_Knight said:
8 minutes & 46 seconds.”

It was terrible, and now justice is being served. Those cops have been arrested and charged. I’m with the OP. The continuing rioting, looting, and protests that go beyond what is protected by the Constitution are hurting the movement, the positive momentum that it had, and the empathy that MOST Americans felt.
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The rioters and looters are not part of the protesters, they take advantage of them. They are criminals.

The 1st amendment IS protected by the constitution. Far too often these protests end and nothing changes. THIS HAS TO STOP.
 
The 1st Amendment is part of the Constitution… I acknowledge that and fully support the right to peacefully protest. However, I do not think that blocking major highways as a form of protest is protected. Google Time, place, and manner when it comes to protest rights.
 
Adamek said:
OK. The world has heard the people. Now what?
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Now we act where it hits them in their bad apples areas…

Will you help me petition and lobby government lawmakers to establish and mandate reporting of misconduct/ fines/ legal payments for rights violations through a National Law Enforcement Agent Data Bank?

The data base will operate on similar standards as the National Practitioner Data Bank for health care professionals.

Like good doctors, I think good cops would want a similar data base, because it shows professionals who are problematic to the industry.

Trustees and HR in health care facilities must check the NPDB before granting practice privileges. Failure to utilize the NPDB and other credentialing associations before granting privileges can result in a facility and the Board of Trustees being held legally responsible for a medical professional’s malpractice.

There should have been a similar data bank long ago with standards that hold a law enforcement agency legally responsible for hiring a problematic officer. That is one solid way to allow police to “police” themselves.

I also want a Law Enforcement and Justice Quality Improvement Act that requires agencies to get feedback from those it interacts with and to use the information from those surveys to improve law enforcement and court services.

As a former DV victim, any surveys that I would have been able to complete would have shed light on problems in my local agencies. (The local cops can be terrible to victims.) Heck, I’d like to see these types of surveys for the DA and SA professionals as well. Same with any practicing attorney. Let’s raise the roof on the justice system racket.

If the health care system can do this, so can the legal system.
 
According to their vision they’re against charter schools, which have been tremendously help in shrinking the racial achievement gap.

Johnathan Chait, a progressive at New York Magazine, pointed out:
The most effective charter schools produce truly spectacular gains. Success Academy, run by Eva Moskowitz, has done something no education-policy analyst considered remotely possible: Its schools have closed the achievement gap.
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In addition:
Progress that had been measured inch by inch over the decades has been registered by Success Academy in miles. The overwhelmingly poor and minority students outscore schools in wealthy suburbs filled with parents who attended college.
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Sounds really weird to me that they would oppose it. It seems very anti-black to me.
 
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Now those are some actual good suggestions. It’d be great if all protesters were that articulate.
 
Adamek said:
Do you want no more police? No more Trump?
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I would say that is the gist of it. Maybe not the protesters, but the looters and rioters. And shame on them, because they are really doing a disservice to a cause they claim to support. My own family (mom’s side) was active in the Pan Indian Movement, and to some extent, the Red Power Movement. BUT, while some of the supporters of those groups could be violent, my family never was. Pan-Indianism
 
PatienceAndHumility said:
There are those (a remnant) protesting justly. But the looters, rioters, those there just for the drama of it all etc. is a whole other matter… They are doing this because, sadly, this is how people who are lacking in Christ feed their yearning for Him. Their hearts are restless. Anarchy is akin to a final act of despair, reaching for a reason.
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I think it’s the looters and rioters who are the minority. Most of the protests are peaceful.

This is not anarchy. This is people who’ve been grossly maltreated, literally for hundreds of years, organizing to obtain changes for the better.

Step one in such change: make the majority aware of the need for change.
That’s what the protesters are trying to do.
 
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Socrates92 said:
They want no more questions? Or they don’t want people to listen to their wants? What exactly are you saying?
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I’m saying the want answers.
I’m saying that if you have to ask this type of question then you haven’t got a clue on what’s going on in your own country. Look at the protests around the world, they seem to know better than many Americans. Read some American history. Educate yourself. See how African Americans were and still are treated. The racists traded in their white hoods for white shirts and ties.
 
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Adamek said:
Yes. I understand all of that. But what do they want today. As I watch the crowds gather once again in all the major US cities, my question is - what do you want to see happen today?
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Adamek said:
But, what do you want to see happen this week? What will get you off the streets?
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It isn’t going to happen today, or this week. What I think they want is to see real evidence that those in power are willing to make real changes over time.
In the short run that would include a change in policy that reins in abusive police. No more unprovoked violence by police officers. No more George Floyds.
 
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They want answers to what? (I’m Canadian, btw. Not a huge racism problem here)
 
Zaccheus said:
most of the protests are peaceful.

This is not anarchy. This is people who’ve been grossly maltreated, literally for hundreds of years, organizing to obtain changes for the better.
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Most of the peaceful protesters that I see in the streets of New York and DC are white and young. Sit-ins and protests are now held in upper middle class suburbs. These people have not been grossly maltreated. They are wealthy, live far away from anyone that does not belong to their class and they hide behind fences from the people they are now trying to defend.
 
Zaccheus said:
I think it’s the looters and rioters who are the minority. most of the protests are peaceful
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It’s the minority that is more relevant, due to the damage they are causing though. You don’t need a majority to cause anarchy.
 
Adamek said:
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What I believe people want today, this week, this month etc, is simply to be heard.
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OK. The world has heard the people. Now what?
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Have they really? Do you think Trump has heard them? How much by way of meaningful action (e.g. changes to law or policy to address the concerns) has happened, or even been proposed by those who can make them.happen, that demonstrates they have actually been heard?
 
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Socrates92 said:
They want answers to what? (I’m Canadian, btw. Not a huge racism problem here)
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Putting a bumper sticker on your car does nothing. Discussing the matter at a bbq with friends does nothing. Ringing your local rep does nothing. Standing outside your local government office with a placard does nothing. Marching in protest on any given day with a hundred people does nothing. Marching with a few thousand does nothing. Voting in one oarty as opposed to another does nothing.

But if you have tens of thousands of people protesting in every state for days on end and that protest spreads to London, to Sydney, to Hamburg and it’s the lead story in all papers and in all new outlets every day…

…then everyone takes notice. Then everyone knows there’s a problem. And maybe each one of us can help to solve it by thinking about how we interact with others. How we view others. How we discuss others. How we remain silent sometimes when we should speak out.

Not including you, Socrates, but if someone thinks this is just a way to blow off steam or is anarchy on the streets or is just an opportunity to riot or is a way to push left wing views then that person is part of the problem.
 
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