Why are you a Catholic(or just Christian)?

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I found God at the end of myself. I had reached such a completely hopeless place in life. And yet I saw such joy, purpose, peace and a goodness that had eluded me in those who followed Christ. On a Catholic retreat in high school they told me that as Jesus had given his life for me, he was asking me to give my life to him. No pure motives here either, but in desperation I committed and gave it a try. Nothing I have done has revolutionized my life for good like this one decision that I continue to live out every day.
 
I came down with psychosis, came to believe I was under demonic oppression and so I, despite all the things I’d been told by those with Gnostic ideas about the “true nature” of the God worshipped by the Christians, chose to come to the faith in the hope that Jesus could help me.

I believe he has helped me. Through online Catholic communities, I eventually came to the Sensus Fidelium YouTube Channel and found the “Spiritual Warfare” playlist, a playlist that consists of talks by renown Catholic Exorcist Fr. Chad Ripperger on the topic of fighting against and preventing the intrusion of demons.
While I dismissed the idea that my issue was demonic in nature and was in fact mere psychosis, I did find the talks helpful. Fr. Ripperger states that sometimes, God will allow a demon into your life because he wishes to extract reparations for your own past misdeeds or perhaps even for the misdeeds of an ancestor (aka “Generational Spirit”. Fr. Ripperger says almost everyone has these). Sometimes, it’s not even a misdeed that you or an ancestor did. Sometimes, it’s just a misdeed that you or an ancestor was involved in e.g. being a victim of child rape/molestation.
In any case, to cover everything, you can offer reparations (I do so with the rosary and have offered rosaries whilst fasting in the past as well) for “all of the things that have offended God” within your life or your father’s life or within the lives of the members of your family tree, etc. After doing these reparations for my family tree, my sister has commented that she used to be in a constant state of confusion when she was younger but nowadays, she’s quite clearheaded by comparison. She doesn’t know about my reparation-rosaries but nonetheless, I’m glad to see things are improving for my family. It’s possible some kind of spirit has been affecting us and my psychosis is an independent issue.

That’s my story. I don’t really understand why people become Catholics myself. The average Catholic seemingly never experienced intrusive thoughts, images in their mind not of their own creation, auditory hallucinations or weird dreams. They just seem okay and then feel some kind of “calling” or something. Without the desperation my psychosis drove me to, I’m certain I would’ve never been any kind of Christian.
 
I was raised Catholic so I was most familiar with that liturgy and theology, and had little exposure to anything else. I began to research into different religions in college to get a feel for what else was out there.

I took an intro to world religions course and I felt that Christianity fit my Western sensibilities the best. Trying to switch my mindset to focusing on myself in Buddhism, the fabric of reality in Hinduism, or expressing my faith through the rituals of Judaism just didn’t click with me.

Islam was a beautiful religion, and I actually had an opportunity last year to pray with an imam in a mosque in Harar, Ethiopia. Again though, it wasn’t a good fit, and I wasn’t called to worship in the Islamic way.

I was simultaneously delving into branches of Christianity and seeing what was within our realm. I did alot of looking into mainstream Protestant branches and the Episcopal Church, most especially in the Anglo-Catholic tradition, fit me best. It’s essentially the Tridentine Mass in English, plenty of incense, Neo-Gothic churches, stained glass, and absolutely beautiful music. I feel as if I’m transported back to medieval times and it seems like the best way for me to worship God.

I did get a chance to attend an Ethiopian Orthodox Divine Liturgy in too. Absolutely beautiful and reverent, but there aren’t any churches nearby my home for me to visit more regularly.

In case anyone is interested, below is a photo of the Divine Liturgy I went to. It’s in the Oriental Orthodox Church, so the only acknowledged the ecumenical councils up to Chalcedon. The upper photo is at the entrance to the church, and the lower photo is folks surrounding the church since it’s been hewn directly into the rock of the earth.

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Protestants would say that some time during the Middle Ages, Christianity in the West lost its way with the Mass, communion under one kind, confession to priests, purgatory, indulgences, shrines, veneration of saints, clerical celibacy, maintaining liturgy and scripture in a language that ordinary people couldn’t understand, an exaggerated role for the bishop of Rome, and so on.
And that would mean that the promise of Jesus that the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church, had failed. So it is a non-starter, for me. Besides, when Protestants can show me early Church witnesses to ‘only the Bible’ and ‘only the faith’, then we can talk about it.
 
By the grace of God I am Catholic. I was not raised with any religion. It was the reverence of people praying in the Catholic Church that spoke to me…if there really is a God that is what I would expect, for people to humble themselves before the almighty creator in prayer. I am so thankful to God for this.

As I learn more about my faith I realize that God always wanted me to be Catholic and I am so thankful for that affirmation…and maybe it is meant for more, to witness the fullness of God’s grace in the Catholic faith in the Spirit of our Lord Jesus. Only God knows.
 
And that would mean that the promise of Jesus that the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church, had failed. So it is a non-starter, for me.
That would be because you have a particular view of the Church and the meaning of that verse. You are assuming that “Church” in this context means “the Catholic Church”. Christians who are not Catholics, and even some Catholics, would interpret “Church” rather differently, as meaning something more like “the gathered followers of Jesus”. Therefore, this promise would not refer specifically to the Catholic Church, but to the body of Christians more generally. Secondly, what does it mean for the gates of hell not to prevail against the Church? You evidently believe that it means that the Catholic Church is safeguarded from error. A Protestant clearly would have a very different interpretation. A Protestant would presumably say that it means something like, “the forces of evil will never completely overcome the Christian faith”.
when Protestants can show me early Church witnesses to ‘only the Bible’ and ‘only the faith’, then we can talk about it.
Clearly Protestants believe that there is good authority for holding these positions. In my experience, Protestants tend to be very highly educated about the Bible and the Church Fathers/early Christian doctrine, at least down to the Council of Chalcedon or thereabouts. Also, you are assuming that all Protestants are the same. If you count Anglicans as Protestants (some would dispute the term), then there are definitely Protestants who have a more nuanced view of these matters.
 
I am Christian primarily because of the Resurrection. It proves that Jesus is God the Son, that He died for our sins, that He rose from the dead victorious and glorious showing what our resurrection will be like, and that everything He said was true.
I am Catholic because I believe our Lord established a Church when He was here. And that Church would last until He returned for the Gates of Hades would never overcome it. That Church would be founded on St. Peter and His successors and that line of St Peter would continue through the ages. There is only one Church that fulfills that, and that is the Holy Catholic Church.

God Bless
 
It’s essentially the Tridentine Mass in English
I am curious that you should say that. Although I am Catholic, I have attended many Anglican/Episcopalian services both in England and in the US. The services I have been to bore very little similarly to the Tridentine Mass.

The original Anglican Book of Common Prayer actually predates the Tridentine Mass by about 21 years and is based on earlier versions of the Latin Mass, especially the Sarum Rite. I would actually say that most Anglican services I have been to more closely resemble the Ordinary Form with the Second Eucharistic Prayer (which is actually older than the Tridentine Mass). I think most Anglicans would find a Tridentine Mass quite baffling.

I am wondering exactly what you mean by Anglo-Catholic. There certainly are some extreme Anglo-Catholic churches, sometimes called Anglo-Papalist, which do not use the Anglican liturgies at all, using instead the Catholic liturgies in English. This is of course done contrary to the canon law of the various Anglican Churches. If you’ve been attending a mainstream Anglican/Episcopalian church, I’d honestly be surprised if they use a text that is based on the Tridentine Mass rather than the older Sarum Rite and the various editions of the Book of Common Prayer. I know that Anglican liturgies have been updated over the centuries, and that they vary from country to country, but I’ve never heard of them importing Catholic liturgy from after the original break with Rome.
 
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I was wondering why do people become Catholic(or just Christian in general)?
I am a Catholic revert, and my reversion began as I developed the practice of patience and kindness. I learned that the more patient and kind we are, the more peace and joy we experience. Therefore the greatest at patience and kindness we can become, the greatest peace and joy we will experience. This is when the wisdom of 1 Corinthians 13:4 & 13, “Patience and Kindness are greatest,” made sense to me as a revelation from God.

In developing my practice, I discovered that in general the greatest patience and kindness is always freely being patient and kind, even in the face of unjust cruelty, through death. This is when I recognized Jesus is God because he is this pinnacle of this patience and kindness in his Passion and Crucifixion. Therefore, I became a committed Christian.

Once I became a committed Christian, I discovered a few different means for why to be a committed Catholic. 1. The Doctrines on the Holy Trinity 2. The Nicene Creed as the logical means to create a community of eternally true friends of God 3. The Amazingness of the Sacraments 4. The keys of Heaven given to the Popes
 
That is a really interesting story, I’m very glad you posted it, I hope God blesses you and your family.
 
Protestants tend to be very highly educated about the Bible and the Church Fathers/early Christian doctrine, at least down to the Council of Chalcedon or thereabouts.
So? Protestants cannot produce witnesses to their ‘pillars’ of belief, not even among early Church heretics 😮
 
I could never be a Protestant because I’m not intelligent enough. I am very bad at understanding things and if I tried to read the Bible with my own enterpretation I would go insane. It is in my opinion impractical. That is one of the reasons why I and I think every Christian needs the church.

Also a quote from Steve Ray when he converted to Catholocism: ‘I’m not my own Pope anymore’.

Also sorry for offending any Protestants in one of my previous posts, I should have said things nicer. Thanks and God bless.
 
I became Christian (or returned to Christianity) because I felt the presence of God at Mass. I became Catholic (or returned to Catholicism) because I felt the presence of God at Mass.
 
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So? Protestants cannot produce witnesses to their ‘pillars’ of belief, not even among early Church heretics 😮
You only have to Google “sola scriptura church fathers” to find Protestant websites that claim that there is support for Protestant theology to be found in the early Church.

https://christiananswers.net/q-eden/sola-scriptura-earlychurch.html


(The author of that post has written a book called Long Before Luther, which basically does what you claim cannot be done, namely, argues that the roots of evangelical theology can be found in the early Church.)

I’m not saying that I agree with the conclusions of these Protestant scholars, but clearly there is evidence to be found that can be deployed by those on both sides of the argument.
 
My Mother is Catholic, so I was baptized at infancy, and grew up learning being taught about God the Father, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and the Blessed Virgin Mary, etc, and witnessing her live the Spirit of God. Through this I also witnessed confirmations of her faith (trust) in God, which strengthened my faith, and led to confirmations of my own. Additionally, when I attend Mass I am always moved by the Eucharistic miracle. Through these gifts, including that of the miracles at Medjugorje, Fatima, etc, and creation of the universe, I know God exists.

I’m Catholic because I know the Catholic Church is the one Jesus built upon Peter. This is the fold Jesus talked about welcoming others into. While I know the history of the Catholic Church doesn’t have an immaculate history, it’s to be expected, because it consists of humans, and while the gates of Hell will not prevail against it, that does not mean there won’t be damage. So, we need to pray for the shepherds God has placed in charge, and for those who they tend to, not find greener pastures. And, no matter the human traditions within the Church, the essential is the greatest miracle, the Eucharist, the communion of the lay faithful, to give praise and glory to God, and living a life of charity.

While I haven’t had a near death experience, and can’t say I know anyone who has, though I know those occur, my Grandmother, Norma, my Father’s Mother, passed away before I turned a year old. Just before she died, she told my Mother I would walk on my first birthday, and on that day, I walked for the first time. When I was two and a half, or three years old, my Mother said I came up to her saying I had seen Grandma, that she called me “precious”, and loved my sister (she was born a year after me), and played with me.

My Mother knew this experience of mine had happened, and that it was my Grandma Norma, because she always called me “precious”, and I was too young when she was alive to remember her calling me that, and it wasn’t a term of endearment my Mother used.

Some years later, when I was still a child, I was on the swing in my backyard. It was a sunny day with a blue sky, and a few small clouds. At one point I looked up, and noticed a figure in the sky, almost transparent, with long wings that moved gracefully up and down, yet unlike any bird. The entire time I was studying it it was flying horizontally, never changed direction or speed, then went behind a cloud. I fully expected it to come out the other side, but it didn’t, and I waited a while. Afterward, I immediately ran into the house to tell my Mother what I had seen.

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Another story I have is long, but I’ll try to summarize best I can. A few years ago in the month of October, just before nightfall, my sister and I ended up stranded on a mountainside near Missoula, MT — no phones or watches. With the few minutes of sunlight that remained, we braced ourselves for having to spend the night where we were, and surveyed our immediate surroundings. We noticed a highway far out in the distance, and discussed heading for it in the morning, but could not find decent shelter, only a sparse tree to huddle under. At the time, I didn’t know what time it was when the sun went down, but as the night progressed, the temperature lowered more and more. Our clothing didn’t shield us well from the cold, except for a blouse we used to cover our heads, and secure heat. As I would move to get comfortable, the branches of the tree tore into the blouse, causing holes. So, we would have to adjust the blouse around. I encouraged my sister to sleep, while I maintained breathing heavily on her to keep her warm.

There was no sense of time, because as I said, neither of us had a cell phone or watch. Whenever I would peer out from under the blouse I’d find it completely dark, except for the moon and stars above us, and the rare headlights of a car on the highway in the distance, even when it seemed like an entire night had passed.
After a while, the cold, hunger, and seemingly never ending darkness was testing my patience. It eventually caused me to cry out loud: “Where is the light?! It should be morning by now!” more than once.

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At one point we prayed to God to send help, then I tried to sleep, because waiting for dawn while awake was not helping it come any faster. To my memory it wasn’t long after I closed my eyes that I heard a sound resembling a car, and I remember dismissing it as such, as we hadn’t seen any roads near us. However, something made me open my eyes, and peer out from under the blouse again, to which I saw below us on the mountainside a parked car. I knew it was running because the front and back lights were on. At first all I could do was stare at what I was seeing, then I snapped out of it, and shook my sister in excitement. We cried out for help to the person(s) in the car, until someone got out, and shone a light in our direction. Then, this stranger guided us down one by one with his voice and the light. Now, The distance between us and the car wasn’t that far, because it didn’t take us long to reach it.

We were so tired and relieved to be rescued that we could not be concerned with who this person was, why they were, nor whether they were a danger or not. He was young and kind, encouraged us to get in the back seat, where he covered us with a sleeping bag, and fed us food. Not only was he surprised at finding us, but also bewildered, because he explained to us that he had been travelling the opposite direction on the highway towards a campsite to drink and fish. That is, until he suddenly felt the need to turn around, and continued driving until he reached that exact spot, where as he describes it, was told to stop and wait.

So, this man had been travelling the opposite direction, nowhere near where we were, then turned around, turned off the highway, drove into the mountains, an area which he admitted was unfamiliar to him, then onto this dirt trail, which we didn’t even see in the light of day. And, where he was stopped was a dead end, so he had to drive backwards to get back on the main road up there in the mountains.

Long story short, we had just gotten into Missoula, and were a couple blocks from my sister’s apartment, when his vehicle broke down. He called a cab, we extended our gratitude, and said our goodbyes. Days later I ended up needing to call a cab myself, and I shared this story with the driver. He said he knew all about it, but I couldn’t understand how, then he explained he had picked up a man named “Luke” who told him. So, this man had been the cab driver who picked up our rescuer the night his car broke down. I asked the driver his name, and he told me it was “John”.

Years later, I suddenly got the urge to google the meaning of the name of our rescuer, Luke, and it means “light” or “the one born at dawn”. As soon as I learned this, I immediately recalled having on the mountainside cried out in the night: “Where is the light?!”, and that it was about 5 am, nearly dawn, when he rescued us. Following this, I looked up the meaning of the name “John”, which means “God is gracious”, and He was.

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Wow that is a really fantastic story and very strange as well, thank you for sharing!
 

for me im catholic, because Jesus founded the Catholic Church, the above youtube video explains very it very well.
 
I’m not saying that I agree with the conclusions of these Protestant scholars, but clearly there is evidence to be found that can be deployed by those on both sides of the argument.
Sorry but I am not going to waste my time in long readings of very twisted interpretations of history. Any specific concrete point I can discuss but part of the Protestant strategy is to drag you into nebulous argumentation with multiple angles. That’s all they can do when history is not on their side.
 
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