Why are you a Catholic?

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This is really directed at Catholics here, as implied by the nature of the question, but you never know. 🙂

It would seem we believe complex systems of concepts based on a number of things;
  1. Nurture - how we were raised at home - Dad told me and that is good enough, thank you!
  2. Intellectual pursuit - Searched for Truth willing to go where the evidence led you and it took you here to the Bride of Christ.
  3. Iconic - You came to respect a religious authority or icon, say a great saint or a very persuasive priest
  4. Intuition - life just makes more sense from a Catholic perspective
  5. Schooled - attended Catholic school and what you learned there was affirmed by family and friends.
  6. Moment of Epiphany - A specific moment in time or a collection of them led your thoughts to believe that God exists and the Church is His best expression of His Will for you.
  7. Spiritual experience - a miracle or emotional religious experience brought you home.
  8. Something I left out; can you please share?
 
This is really directed at Catholics here, as implied by the nature of the question, but you never know. 🙂

It would seem we believe complex systems of concepts based on a number of things;
  1. Nurture - how we were raised at home
My mother drilled it into my head when I was a child. If I wasn’t Catholic, I’d probably be agnostic.
 
A combination, but I’ll start with your list.
  1. Nurture - how we were raised at home - Dad told me and that is good enough, thank you!
Nope - I didn’t grow up in a religious family. My father was Catholic but lost his faith, and had me baptised Presbyterian as an act of rebellion. On the other hand, there was no Catholic bashing, so I didn’t have to ovecome that hurdle.
  1. Intellectual pursuit - Searched for Truth willing to go where the evidence led you and it took you here to the Bride of Christ.
I became (Protestant) Christian or Catholic first - then I started the intellectual search. Until I became Christian, I wasn’t much interested in religion generally, or theology, or church history or any other “religious” intellectual pursuit.
  1. Iconic - You came to respect a religious authority or icon, say a great saint or a very persuasive priest
The most “iconic” person I’ve met was actually my old Protestant pastor, yet he predicted I’d become Catholic. But that wasn’t the reason I became Catholic - it was just that his prediction was accurate (as he usually was). I also met a Catholic psychiatrist, and that was a significant help.

I was a postman at one time, and I worked with a rather left-wing Irish Catholic bloke, who’s obituary was actually published in our local Catholic rag a few years ago. While I was a bit leery of some of his left wing opinions, i was impressed by his sincerity and concern for people.

His name was Garry O’Reilly, and one of his sons was involved in knocking a hole or two in a B52 bomber during or around the first Gulf War. I didn’t think that was very useful, but he was at least prepared to show the courage of his convictions, and go to jail for it.

I was impressed by the father’s sincerity.
  1. Intuition - life just makes more sense from a Catholic perspective
By itself - no. But I’ve had other influences eg. the old pastor I mentioned above turning up a few years after he died in a vision and saying “The Catholic Church is CLOSEST to the truth.” That wasn’t intuition - that was a plain statement of fact if it really was him.
  1. Schooled - attended Catholic school and what you learned there was affirmed by family and friends.
Nix - my education was completely secular. With hindsight I wish I had attended a Catholic School, but that’s long lost history.
  1. Moment of Epiphany - A specific moment in time or a collection of them led your thoughts to believe that God exists and the Church is His best expression of His Will for you.
  2. Spiritual experience - a miracle or emotional religious experience brought you home.
I put these two together, as they’re both “spiritual”. I’ve had some very distinct spiritual expenences. But I became Christian whenI was at the end of my tether, and I kept getting this sort of spiritual impulse to go back to the same (Presbyterian) church where I’d had some Sunday School years earlier.

Later, some years later, I had a similar sort of spiritual push to start going to a Catholic Church - you know, every time I drove past a Catholic Church, it would sort of jump out at me.

So it was more of a spiritual push, ratther than an “epiphany”. And both times there was a sense of dissatisfaction with the status quo - life in general in the first instance, and the divided Protestant churches in the second.
  1. Something I left out; can you please share?
Well, I live in a “Christian” society, so it’s easier than if I lived in some other culture.

But most of all, I think God just wanted me in the Catholic Church, and He has inconvenient ways of making His will known if you don’t take the hint the first time.

Acts 26:14 NIV
We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, 'Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’/QUOTE]
 
64 years ago I was born into a Catholic family and proceeded to be raised very Catholic by my parents as well as extended family. I went to Catholic grade school, high school and college. Over my early years my beloved grandparents displayed a devotion to the Church and the rosary and my fondest memories were attending Mass and saying the rosary with them. To this day that plays a huge role in why I am still Catholic, although at this point in time everything I have experienced over these years tells me that Catholicism is the way forward for me, always. There have been times when I questioned the Chuch and looked into other faiths but I always came home quickly as I found that other faiths were just not right for me. I hope that in whatever time I have left here on earth that I can influence my Catholic grandchildren in the same positive way my grandparents did for me,
 
When I was Catholic, it was because I genuinely believed in it - so probably ‘intellectual pursuit’.
 
  1. Intellectual pursuit - Searched for Truth willing to go where the evidence led you and it took you here to the Bride of Christ.
Yes
  1. Iconic - You came to respect a religious authority or icon, say a great saint or a very persuasive priest
I learned from some
  1. Intuition - life just makes more sense from a Catholic perspective
Man has a built-in sense of and hope for the eternal
  1. Spiritual experience - a miracle or emotional religious experience brought you home.
As confirmation, not as the primary motivator
  1. Something I left out; can you please share?
Reason. Belief in a creator God is reasonable. And, in general, reason is necessarily employed in our coming to know Him, in faith, IOW.
 
The reason I am Catholic is because I was baptised and confirmed a Catholic. This was a prerequisite for my Catholic mother to marry my Protestant (Church of England) father in a Catholic church. Also a requirement was that I attend a Roman Catholic primary school (from age 5 to age 11). What I learned there was affirmed by my Catholic mother and by attending Mass.
 
#7. I had a spritual experience and came fully into the Church on Divine Mercy Sunday (I had no idea what that devotion or day was at the time). For a few years after I struggled with whether my experiences were simply mental illness. I left the Church to become an agnostic in 2012. I came back to the Church on Epiphany of last year because God called me back.
 
Mine was a combination of intellectual pursuit and spiritual experiences.

I already believed in God. I already was convinced that Jesus suffered, died, and rose from the dead. (And determining those things was a combination of things, too.) All that was really left was deciding whose authority I would follow (that is, which religion?).

Where I struggled with unreasonable, illogical, or inconsistent Protestant beliefs, I found the Catholic faith to be reasonable, consistent, and true. But if it was only intellectual, I doubt I’d have really lived out my faith and seen firsthand the changes and blessings in my life (and in myself) that comes from having a real relationship with God.

I also had several spiritual experiences that led me towards the Catholic Church. Some things were (to me) very obvious signs; others were more subtle–it was only looking back that I noticed them and saw the influence they had on my journey. It was a lot like intuition… but it wasn’t quite intuition, either. I mean, I could explain what happened, but not so easily explain what I was feeling and experiencing at the time. It was not so much one, big particular moment, but more like several small spiritual “nudges” and “coincidences” that are hard to explain in a way that really makes sense to someone else. 🤷

I remember, at one point, reading a quote (maybe Bishop Sheen?) that said something like, “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who refuse to believe, no proof is enough.” I knew that I could “explain away” the experiences I’d had if I chose to. I thought on that for a long while, and then I made a decision that all the proof I had (though not quantifiable or tangible proof) was enough for me to believe that the Catholic Church is Christ’s Church, established by His authority and protected by the Holy Spirit.

So here I am, and here I stay. 🙂
 
My reasons are a combination of choices 1, 2, 4, and 5.
  1. I was born into a Catholic home. Mom was Catholic, Dad was Protestant, Dad acquiesced.
  2. I attended 12 years of Catholic school, and found it most agreeable.
  3. After school, I continued to study independently, and was often challenged at work by good people of different faiths or denominations.
  4. This is the hardest to put into words, but the tenets of the Catholic Faith make more sense to me than any of the other choices out there. Who can fully explain the gift of faith? Not me!
 
Reason. Belief in a creator God is reasonable. And, in general, reason is necessarily employed in our coming to know Him, in faith, IOW.
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this topic.

How do you distinguish this from “2. Intellectual pursuit of Truth”?

Don’t mean to pin you down or anything, just curious.
 
Since the question isn’t “how did you decided to become Catholic”, but rather “why are you Catholic” I answer the following way.
  1. Nurture - how we were raised at home - Dad told me and that is good enough, thank you!
This is how my Faith began, absolutely.
  1. Intellectual pursuit - Searched for Truth willing to go where the evidence led you and it took you here to the Bride of Christ.
Though I’ve never seriously questioned the truth of my Faith, I’ve researched other religions quite thoroughly, and have only ever had intellectual affirmation of my beliefs.
  1. Iconic - You came to respect a religious authority or icon, say a great saint or a very persuasive priest
Yes. I have had this in my life also. Very inspirational men and women who have again affirmed the truth of this Faith in the way they live and in what they teach.
  1. Intuition - life just makes more sense from a Catholic perspective
Yup. It just does.
  1. Schooled - attended Catholic school and what you learned there was affirmed by family and friends.
Absolutely. From being homeschooled, to attending a private Catholic boarding school for three years, to attending two years of Catholic college, I can certainly say I’ve been schooled in the Faith.
  1. Moment of Epiphany - A specific moment in time or a collection of them led your thoughts to believe that God exists and the Church is His best expression of His Will for you.
I’ve had tons of these. Not specifically about the truth of the Catholic Church overall, but about this teaching or that teaching that just suddenly come into great clarity, or that I see from a whole new angle all of a sudden. These are the most exciting things.
  1. Spiritual experience - a miracle or emotional religious experience brought you home.
Yes. This is a big one. Often when I’m having low spiritual bouts, I remember those moments of deep spiritual experience, and I am elevated to return to deep practice. Very important.
  1. Something I left out; can you please share?
Well, I think you’ve covered pretty well all the bases.
 
In chronological order,

  • *]Nurture
    *]Schooled
    *]Intellectual pursuit
    *]Intuition
 
Thank you for posting your experience and view of this topic.

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6. Moment of Epiphany - A specific moment in time or a collection of them led your thoughts to believe that God exists and the Church is His best expression of His Will for you.

I’ve had tons of these. Not specifically about the truth of the Catholic Church overall, but about this teaching or that teaching that just suddenly come into great clarity, or that I see from a whole new angle all of a sudden. These are the most exciting things.
Yes, it seems that as I grew spiritually, life seemed to be more and more often filled with little lessons and realizations of God’s Truth in my life. Aside from Salvation itself, I think this has been the greatest blessing of a Catholic mindset.

I have been told I think more like a Protestant than a Catholic, which I disagree with. But maybe there are some key differences I don’t yet understand about my own individual Catholic view of things.
 
My reasons are a combination of choices 1, 2, 4, and 5.
  1. I was born into a Catholic home. Mom was Catholic, Dad was Protestant, Dad acquiesced.
  2. I attended 12 years of Catholic school, and found it most agreeable.
  3. After school, I continued to study independently, and was often challenged at work by good people of different faiths or denominations.
  4. This is the hardest to put into words, but the tenets of the Catholic Faith make more sense to me than any of the other choices out there. Who can fully explain the gift of faith? Not me!
Thanks for sharing this.

You sound like your life is similar to how my wife came to her life of faith, that and the cross she bears being my wife. 🙂
 
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this topic.

How do you distinguish this from “2. Intellectual pursuit of Truth”?

Don’t mean to pin you down or anything, just curious.
IDK-maybe they’re the same. Reason is used to some extent in everything we do-all our pursuits, but I thought it might be helpful to isolate it as a major player in arriving at truth, by itself. Philosophy is an intellectual pursuit but not all intellectual pursuits are philosophy. I think. 🙂
 
I like to joke that it’s because I love horror movies (and that was the beginning of my journey) and, “No one calls a Baptist preacher when someone gets possessed!”

Seriously, why not be Catholic? When I began learning about the faith, it all made sense. Christianity never made sense before I began learning about Catholicism. Protestantism never made sense. Why read the Bible from start to finish? What about Jewish context? Whose interpretation of Scripture is correct?

When I heard about the “deposit of faith,” that was a pretty huge selling point for me. I admit, the physical aspects have always been appealing and I believe humans crave the tangibles. The sacramentals. Smelling the incense. The liturgy. Reconciliation. The rubric of the Church herself…all of it.

I think Song of Songs sums up my feelings for the Roman Catholic Church, chapter six, verse three:
“I belong to my love, and my love to me. He pastures his flock among the lilies.” ❤️
 
Where I struggled with unreasonable, illogical, or inconsistent Protestant beliefs, I found the Catholic faith to be reasonable, consistent, and true. But if it was only intellectual, I doubt I’d have really lived out my faith and seen firsthand the changes and blessings in my life (and in myself) that comes from having a real relationship with God.

I also had several spiritual experiences that led me towards the Catholic Church. Some things were (to me) very obvious signs; others were more subtle–it was only looking back that I noticed them and saw the influence they had on my journey. It was a lot like intuition… but it wasn’t quite intuition, either. I mean, I could explain what happened, but not so easily explain what I was feeling and experiencing at the time. It was not so much one, big particular moment, but more like several small spiritual “nudges” and “coincidences” that are hard to explain in a way that really makes sense to someone else. 🤷
Thanks. I have had similar experiences though most I think I understood as they happened. The ones I realize in hindsight are also usually with regrets.

My key breakthrough moment came when studying the life of St Joan of Arch. Being an amateur military history fanatic I understand that there is no amount of genius that can replace decades of experience leading men on the battlefield, preparing their logistical support and learning what to do and not do.

What Joan did was extraordinary in that she took a thoroughly demoralized army, re-invigorated it, then led it in battle as a 16 year old peasant girl. She truly led, making key decisions often with the disagreement of her generals, such as approaching Orleans on the north side of the Loire river so she could strike quickly rather than the south side that was safer as it kept the river as a buffer between them and the English. Her breaking of the siege of Orleans was the first French win on the field of battle that the French had had in a very long time and she fought against the best of her day; the English supported with their longbow archers. Simply convincing the Dauphin to give her command was a miracle, leading them to retake lands long held by the English in that war, and this goes beyond miraculous and to the reason defying stupendous.

Imagine the odds of some 16 year old girl who had never played chess before walking into a tournament then beating everyone and finishing by defeating an International Grand Master in 6 out of 6 games? Such a thing has never happened and never will, but St Joan did the equivalent in military terms when she got the King of France crowned and back on the throne of France.

Reading about her life made me realize that God does still work through miraculous events post first century church era as my Protestant background always told me. I realized that the actions of Constantine could not then have been a corruption of the church and thus no ‘Great Apostasy’ and thus the Holy Ghost still led the Magisterium.

That moment of realization made me feel thrilled about learning more of Catholicism and my Protestant mindset and conditioning was nothing more than hindrances to my spiritual journey I longed for.
 
I like to joke that it’s because I love horror movies (and that was the beginning of my journey) and, “No one calls a Baptist preacher when someone gets possessed!”

Seriously, why not be Catholic? When I began learning about the faith, it all made sense. Christianity never made sense before I began learning about Catholicism. Protestantism never made sense. Why read the Bible from start to finish? What about Jewish context? Whose interpretation of Scripture is correct?

When I heard about the “deposit of faith,” that was a pretty huge selling point for me. I admit, the physical aspects have always been appealing and I believe humans crave the tangibles. The sacramentals. Smelling the incense. The liturgy. Reconciliation. The rubric of the Church herself…all of it.

I think Song of Songs sums up my feelings for the Roman Catholic Church, chapter six, verse three:
“I belong to my love, and my love to me. He pastures his flock among the lilies.” ❤️
Thank you.

At first I was repelled by the statues and physical representations of saints, stations of the cross, etc. But what defines Protestantism the most is the particulars on why it rejects Roman Catholicism, and all lower case ‘catholicisms’ usually, which places them well outside the flow of Christian thought prior to 1500 or so.

And so much of it hinges on Constantine’s embrace of the church. If that act was not a COMPLETE apostasy then the basis of Protestantism of all kinds collapses. Various things show that the Magisterium, though it has some corrupt men, it is not itself corrupt and the Holy Ghost still leads it into ‘all Truth’ as the banning of slavery exemplifies.
 
IDK-maybe they’re the same. Reason is used to some extent in everything we do-all our pursuits, but I thought it might be helpful to isolate it as a major player in arriving at truth, by itself. Philosophy is an intellectual pursuit but not all intellectual pursuits are philosophy. I think. 🙂
I can see that. Thanks.

Generally I think of Valid intellectual pursuit of Truth using Reason as a necessity, at least for verification of the process one uses.
 
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