Why aren't people being healed today?

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The gospels tells how Jesus healed many people who were paralized, sick, blind etc and even gave the power to the 12 disciples to teach and heal the people. I wonder with the church having healing masses and the congration praying over sick people, why is nobody healed like in NT times? Then you also have tv avangelists lke benny hinn who on tv “supposedly” heals many people and your miracle water cure which i think those are scams for money.
 
The gospels tells how Jesus healed many people who were paralized, sick, blind etc and even gave the power to the 12 disciples to teach and heal the people. I wonder with the church having healing masses and the congration praying over sick people, why is nobody healed like in NT times?.
People are healed through prayer in the Catholic Church today. There are public cases you can find by reading about canonizations and people like Padre Pio, but mostly there are just average folks who pray and are healed and give thanks and move on. There are healing accounts all through history.
 
People are healed through prayer in the Catholic Church today. There are public cases you can find by reading about canonizations and people like Padre Pio, but mostly there are just average folks who pray and are healed and give thanks and move on. There are healing accounts all through history.
Not to mention that we are spiritually sick today and every time we make a valid confession, we are healed.
 
Certainly the healings of Jesus were for a very particular messianic reason…

(and even those of the Apostles)

But healings did not not stop with the first century…they are not like what Jesus did then but they do happen…

Via prayer, Sacraments, intercession of the Saints, those of particular gift while they are living (like Saints)…and places such as Lourdes (much happens there that can not be strictly documented there…for they are very very strict in what they document…)… etc etc.

The greatest “healing” though is that of from death to life …to new life in Christ!

(physical healings point to that more true life …)
 
People are healed through prayer in the Catholic Church today. There are public cases you can find by reading about canonizations and people like Padre Pio, but mostly there are just average folks who pray and are healed and give thanks and move on. There are healing accounts all through history.
Exactly! Numerous saintly Catholics are beatified (which usually requires a miracle) and canonized (which always requires a miracle) every single year.

Then there are tonnes - simply tonnes - of pilgrims constantly streaming to places such as Lourdes in France, Fatima in Portugal and so on, who seek healing, and lots of recorded and verifies instances where cures have happened.
 
The gospels tells how Jesus healed many people who were paralized, sick, blind etc and even gave the power to the 12 disciples to teach and heal the people. I wonder with the church having healing masses and the congration praying over sick people, why is nobody healed like in NT times? Then you also have tv avangelists lke benny hinn who on tv “supposedly” heals many people and your miracle water cure which i think those are scams for money.
I think you are referring to miraculous healing, or instantaneous healing, the kind performed by our Lord and by His disciples in NT times. It is different from the ordinary healing that continue to take place today as answers to our prayers.

Miraculous healing is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. It is a charismatic gift, and it is not given to everyone. The Holy Spirit gives it only to those whom He wills, and He grants it to edify the Church. If we don’t see a lot of miraculous healing today, it is because the Holy Spirit does not give the gift too often, or to too many people anymore. Perhaps the Holy Spirit still grants this gift to some select few, but you don’t hear them a lot because these people who really have the gift are humble enough not to brag about them.

Be careful with those who claim that they have this charismatic gift, whether they are on TV or not, especially if you have to give them money to witness their act. The Holy Spirit grants this gift to edify the Church, not to make somebody’s purse fat. I personally believe in faith healing, if that simply means praying for healing with submission to God’s Will, and as long as it does not involve paying money. I become really skeptical about those who make a living out of faith healing. You give them your money hoping to be healed. And when you don’t get healed, they turn around and say, “It’s because you didn’t have enough faith.” What a scam!

Regarding Benny Hinn - I have many reasons also why I don’t like him. Just go to Youtube.com or use google and you will find plenty of reasons to lose your trust.
 
The gospels tells how Jesus healed many people who were paralized, sick, blind etc and even gave the power to the 12 disciples to teach and heal the people. I wonder with the church having healing masses and the congration praying over sick people, why is nobody healed like in NT times? Then you also have tv avangelists lke benny hinn who on tv “supposedly” heals many people and your miracle water cure which i think those are scams for money.
…there are layers upon layers on this… first of all (which many get very very wrong) what you have described is one of the prophecies pertaining to the Messiah (‘heal the sick, give sight to the blind, make the lame walk, cast evil spirits, the death would rise…’); as it happens, right before his death (another instance, in my understanding, where many fail to see the fullness) John the Baptist sent two of his disciples to Jesus… to their query He replies with something like this: “the lame walk, the sick are heal, the blind see, and the Gospel/Good News is preached to the poor…”

…again, they are signs that would reveal the arrival of the Messiah…

Jesus was not lazy… but early on He delegated power to His disciples so that the people of Israel would experience without doubt that the Lord of Malachi’s prophecy had in deed arrived and, as the Immanuel, was among His people–just imagine 72 disciples, going about in twos, performing all sorts of miracles throughout the various villages and cities in Israel!

…then there was the inception of Christ’s Church… Jesus gave them the asurance that He would remain with them, as well as that He would send the Holy Spirit, and there were signs that would accompany the Disciples/Apostles to demonstrate their authenticity (we must take into consideration that they are representing themselves as the revelation of Yahweh God to Israel’s people–a people that has had experience through the various prophets that came with Word and Signs from God); Jesus Apostles (His Sent Ones) would carry no less of a mark than the ancient prophets!

Again, contrary to many people’s perception, Scriptures do not state that these signs would accompany the Church all of the time nor throughout time… at the beginning, these signs were manifestations to demonstrate that the Gospel/Good News that the Apostle preached was True and that they had complete Authorization from God (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit)… as the Chruch began to take shape, even during the Apostles’ life time, we note that these signs are less and less relevant to the preaching and Salvation than the actual Doctrine and Worship that begins to take place…

Signs still do happen… both as a source from good and evil–it is why Christ warned that we should not jump and run every time someone claims that Jesus is here, there or over there… it is why Jesus warned that the evil one, as a spirit, had the ability to pretend to be the angel of Light and that he would perform many signs (and even allow others to perform them in his name) that would deceive even the elect, if it were possible…

As we get more involved in the Scriptures we find that all of the signs are signs for the non-Believers or signs to demonstrate that the Church was founded in God; Scriptures demonstrate that discipleship (“if you Love Me Obey my Commandments”) is the actual measure that we, those who seek Christ, must both attain and teach others to attain–Salvation becomes a matter of Preaching and Living the Gospel and not of prowes and personal abilities.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Look up some of the miracles that have been investigated for canonization of saints. They’ll make your jaw drop.

Nothing that could be explained as a psychosomatic cure is allowed as evidence, so psychological conditions, blindness, paralysis, addictions, etc., are not admitted. Only cures that can’t be explained by medical science.

The medical review committee includes the top specialists in their fields, the heads of medical colleges and board review committes, and so forth.

Someone should write a book which would just present the medical evidence for canonization of each saint in the last two centuries or so. It would make most atheists’ heads explode with the quality of evidence for God and the Saints.

(That really is a good idea, if anyone wants to do the research…)
 
Certainly the healings of Jesus were for a very particular messianic reason…

(and even those of the Apostles)

But healings did not not stop with the first century…they are not like what Jesus did then but they do happen…

Via prayer, Sacraments, intercession of the Saints, those of particular gift while they are living (like Saints)…and places such as Lourdes (much happens there that can not be strictly documented there…for they are very very strict in what they document…)… etc etc.

The greatest “healing” though is that of from death to life …to new life in Christ!

(physical healings point to that more true life …)
…your final thought should not have been in parenthesis since it is the essence of our Faith (remember the ten lepers? …only the one who returned to thank God did receive both temporal and spiritual healing!)

Maran atha!

Angel
 
There are many good, standard answers above - but I am going to go out on a limb here and say that, IMHO, one of the issues is "Faith and “trust”.

Jesus said that for whose with faith, they could move mountains, kill a fig tree, do all that He did and even greater things than He did.
BUT - it requires an absolute faith and trust - without doubt…
And Jesus answered them, "Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and never doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will be done. (Mt 21:21)

Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. (Mk 11:23)

This kind of belief and Trust was easier for those more closely associated with it such as the Apostles who physically saw Jesus, were taught by Jesus, and were “coached” by Jesus as they went about their first mission.
Over time and as this close connection was lost, this kind of absolute faith and trust became more rare. Yet - throughout history God has granted this grace - and found souls open to it such that miraculous healings can be found in every age of the Church.

I do not say this to attack anyone’s faith. To do so I would need to attack my own first. I merely offer this viewpoint for consideration by the group.

Peace
James
 
There are many good, standard answers above - but I am going to go out on a limb here and say that, IMHO, one of the issues is "Faith and “trust”.

Jesus said that for whose with faith, they could move mountains, kill a fig tree, do all that He did and even greater things than He did.
BUT - it requires an absolute faith and trust - without doubt…
And Jesus answered them, "Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and never doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will be done. (Mt 21:21)

Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. (Mk 11:23)

This kind of belief and Trust was easier for those more closely associated with it such as the Apostles who physically saw Jesus, were taught by Jesus, and were “coached” by Jesus as they went about their first mission.
Over time and as this close connection was lost, this kind of absolute faith and trust became more rare. Yet - throughout history God has granted this grace - and found souls open to it such that miraculous healings can be found in every age of the Church.

I do not say this to attack anyone’s faith. To do so I would need to attack my own first. I merely offer this viewpoint for consideration by the group.

Peace
James
The Bible provides plenty of evidence to show that God often works miracles to those who believe (or to those who have faith). Also, God does not perform a miracle, even if it was attempted by a disciple of Christ, unless the disciple also believes (Matthew 17:14-19). However, I do not think that merely having faith in our Lord is enough to cast out demons or to cause a cure. For example, St. Paul prayed thrice for a cure to a pain in his flesh, but God in His wisdom chose not to heal his infirmity, saying that His grace was sufficient (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). Should we say that St. Paul did not have faith? Of course not! God has also worked other miracles through him before (For example, see Acts of the Apostles 16:16-18). The truth is that God is free to grant or not to grant our prayers according to His wisdom and His good will. The faith of the praying person does not impose an obligation on God to grant the petition! It is false to think that anyone can necessitate God to perform any miracle at any time just by believing in our Lord Jesus. For God to grant the requested miracle or healing, it must first accord with His wisdom and His will. Therefore, when we pray, we must pray with a spirit of submission to God’s will, remembering what St. John said in his epistle: “And this is the confidence which we have in him: that whatsoever we shall ask, according to his will, he heareth us” (1 John 5:14). Remember also how our Lord prayed to the Father in Gethsemani: Father, if thou wilt, remove this chalice from me: nevertheless, not my will, but Thine, be done" (Luke 22:42).
 
Oh, but they are! Read this link about the first miracle attributed to Blessed Mother Teresa.
brothermichael.com/saints/miricle.html:nun1:

In addition, many every day healings occur and some fail to give God the credit. I had terrible chemical burns on my hands recently. All the doctor could do was give me a salve, which didn’t work that well even after three weeks. The expression at a local Catholic hospital is
“We dress the wound, God heals it.” I prayed and prayed, and believe my healing was from God. It may not have made the cover of the NY Times, but I am healed of burns so bad that I thought I might need skin grafts. I give God the glory!:gopray2:

:signofcross: Perhaps we are jaded in these modern times we live in, so it is hard for us to believe, but God does not change. Over many decades in the past century, some have found healing at Lourdes. We don’t know why all illnesses are not cured, but that does not mean there is no healing taking place in our times.
Please have faith. God is a God of love. Miracles and healing can and do happen.:harp::heaven:
 
The Bible provides plenty of evidence to show that God often works miracles to those who believe (or to those who have faith). Also, God does not perform a miracle, even if it was attempted by a disciple of Christ, unless the disciple also believes (Matthew 17:14-19). However, I do not think that merely having faith in our Lord is enough to cast out demons or to cause a cure. For example, St. Paul prayed thrice for a cure to a pain in his flesh, but God in His wisdom chose not to heal his infirmity, saying that His grace was sufficient (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). Should we say that St. Paul did not have faith? Of course not! God has also worked other miracles through him before (For example, see Acts of the Apostles 16:16-18). The truth is that God is free to grant or not to grant our prayers according to His wisdom and His good will. The faith of the praying person does not impose an obligation on God to grant the petition! It is false to think that anyone can necessitate God to perform any miracle at any time just by believing in our Lord Jesus. For God to grant the requested miracle or healing, it must first accord with His wisdom and His will. Therefore, when we pray, we must pray with a spirit of submission to God’s will, remembering what St. John said in his epistle: “And this is the confidence which we have in him: that whatsoever we shall ask, according to his will, he heareth us” (1 John 5:14). Remember also how our Lord prayed to the Father in Gethsemani: Father, if thou wilt, remove this chalice from me: nevertheless, not my will, but Thine, be done" (Luke 22:42).
In all of this good information, the last is the best. We need to keep ourselves ordered to His Will and not ours.

Something else that we should remember in these kinds of discussions that even a complete healing is only “temporary”. A miraculous healing will not produce immortality. Jesus healed many and even raised people from the dead, yet where are they now? They have died and are buried.
So - this fact should be a great lesson to us - let us not worry so much about corporeal healing. Let us focus rather on the healing that will lead us to Eternal Life with Christ in heaven.

Peace
James
 
St. Gregory the Great was asked this same thing, and he wrote about many accounts of healing that he knew of.

Now the reason why those healings happened so often among Apostolic times was for the purpose of getting people to believe. Christianity was new, and the proclamation of Christ needed signs and wonders as a way to validate the message in order to leave people with no excuse to not believe. But after the Gospel has spread and the Church has grown, the pure impact of Christianity through history is even more miraculous than healing. The greatness and the influence of God through the Church is evident and really undeniable to any honest critic. I would rather have two thousand years of Church history to strengthen my faith than for a miracle to be performed in front of me. I tend to second guess my eyes, and I am also prone to forgetting those miracles that God has done in my own life. But knowing that the Church has been in the buisness of leading people to heaven for a very long time is something that meets my need in times of doubt!
 
There are many, many healings today.

There are some very well documented ones that have happened at the sites of Marian Apparitions. There are others that are never reported.
 
There are many, many healings today.

There are some very well documented ones that have happened at the sites of Marian Apparitions. There are others that are never reported.
This is so true. But I do not find it incompatible with Copland3’s post (Post#15) above, which I like very much. He is saying that even if there are fewer healing reported today than during Apostolic times, the continued existence of our Catholic Church is itself a miracle greater than healing. Well said.
 
This is so true. But I do not find it incompatible with Copland3’s post (Post#15) above, which I like very much. He is saying that even if there are fewer healing reported today than during Apostolic times, the continued existence of our Catholic Church is itself a miracle greater than healing. Well said.
I don’t see how the two posts are incompatible.In fact, I think they are compatible in the sense that we really don’t know the number of miracle healings in biblical times. We know Jesus did many more healings and miricles than documented in the Bible and I’m sure more were done by the Apostles than were documented there as well.

For all we know we may be having more healings now than then. If that is the case it’s because the healings are done via a different mode (not by a prophet or the Messiah). I think also the rise of science and medical technology may be affecting people’s opinons of what is or isn’t a miracle. We may have many miracles that people write off because of medical technology of the day (eventhough they may very well be miracles).

Either way, I don’t see how any of this would be incompatible with post #15.
 
…there are layers upon layers on this… first of all (which many get very very wrong) what you have described is one of the prophecies pertaining to the Messiah (‘heal the sick, give sight to the blind, make the lame walk, cast evil spirits, the death would rise…’); as it happens, right before his death (another instance, in my understanding, where many fail to see the fullness) John the Baptist sent two of his disciples to Jesus… to their query He replies with something like this: “the lame walk, the sick are heal, the blind see, and the Gospel/Good News is preached to the poor…”

…again, they are signs that would reveal the arrival of the Messiah…

Angel
were in the OT does it say that?
 
St. Gregory the Great was asked this same thing, and he wrote about many accounts of healing that he knew of.

Now the reason why those healings happened so often among Apostolic times was for the purpose of getting people to believe. Christianity was new, and the proclamation of Christ needed signs and wonders as a way to validate the message in order to leave people with no excuse to not believe. But after the Gospel has spread and the Church has grown, the pure impact of Christianity through history is even more miraculous than healing. The greatness and the influence of God through the Church is evident and really undeniable to any honest critic. I would rather have two thousand years of Church history to strengthen my faith than for a miracle to be performed in front of me. I tend to second guess my eyes, and I am also prone to forgetting those miracles that God has done in my own life. But knowing that the Church has been in the buisness of leading people to heaven for a very long time is something that meets my need in times of doubt!
I’m agree that the 2000 year history of the Church is powerful testimony, but I dislike the argument that:
“…the reason why those healings happened so often among Apostolic times was for the purpose of getting people to believe. Christianity was new, and the proclamation of Christ needed signs and wonders as a way to validate the message in order to leave people with no excuse to not believe.” (from above post)
I don’t really see any reason to assume that healings were needed then to get people to believe, but are not needed (as much) now…If miraculous healings truly convinced and convicted people in faith then - why would they not do the same thing now???

I have to say that, if I were a non-christian - unchurched - person and was looking into the bible and the Church and such I would not find this argument convincing at all. 🤷

Peace
James
 
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