Why celebrate Christmas

[Hisalone]

Did you eat bacon for breakfast?
Those velvet Elvis’ are so trendy did you pick one of them up?
Were you singing Frosty the Snowman? :christmastree1:

 

[Hisalone]

The apostles never used the internet either, so why don’t you stop being such a hypocrite and follow their example?

Contrary to your usage the internet is not a religious practice.

 

[wwolverine]

Lets see Christmas was not celebrated by the apostles.
That would mean Advent is a tradition not of the apostles.
The apostles didnt say rosaries, another tradition,
No statues in homes or places of worship
No icons or relics
No prayers to “saints”
No celibate priesthood
No Easter celebration of Passover and Resurrection Sunday
I guess the list could go on and on

Dear Hisalone

Regarding to your above mail, No prayers to saints, ( dont know what Holy Bible you refer to) but the one i have is NIV and here are some references you will find of use,

New Testament

1. Romans 8:27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God’s will.
2. 1 Cor 6:2 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?
3. Ephesians 1:15, 1:18 & 6:18
   15For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers.
   18I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints,
   18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
   .
   The other part regarding celebrating Christmas or Birth of Jesus, I believe we have something about the Gifts of the Magi, and I dont suppose they reached the place of Birth and saw Jesus on the same day. But do you think they gave up, going to see Jesus and wishing Him even if it was wee bit later than the birthday?

 

[exoflare]

Contrary to your practice the internet is not a religious practice.

Neither are statues, but that doesn’t seem to stop you from mentioning it. I guess you just now conveniently came up with this new standard?

BTW it’s funny you can respond to this but ignore all the countless replies asking you when Jesus’ real birthday is.

 

[Hisalone]

Dear Hisalone

Regarding to your above mail, No prayers to saints, ( dont know what Holy Bible you refer to) but the one i have is NIV and here are some references you will find of use,

New Testament

1. Romans 8:27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God’s will.
2. 1 Cor 6:2 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?
3. Ephesians 1:15, 1:18 & 6:18
   15For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers.
   18I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints,
   18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
   .
   The other part regarding celebrating Christmas or Birth of Jesus, I believe we have something about the Gifts of the Magi, and I dont suppose they reached the place of Birth and saw Jesus on the same day. But do you think they gave up, going to see Jesus and wishing Him even if it was wee bit later than the birthday?

When Paul refers to the saints, who is he refering to?

The Magi were brought up earlier and part of my polemic is that it took months for them to travel to Bethlehem.

 

[Hisalone]

Neither are statues, but that doesn’t seem to stop you. I guess you just now conveniently came up with this standard?

BTW it’s funny you can respond to this but ignore all the countless replies asking you when Jesus’ real birthday is.

I have addressed when Jesus was born on a number of occassions.
Neither are statues?
I have said we do not know with complete asssurance when Jesus was actually born. My vote goes with the Feast of Tabernacles, when God dwelt with us.

 

[LilyM]

So you already have a date in mind (not that I’ve seen an actual day and month named, and freely admit I don’t know when the Feast of Tabernacles is or why that particular Jewish festival should be more relevant than Hanukkah, the Feast of Lights, but no mind).

So do you put your money where your mouth is and actually celebrate Christmas at your proposed time of year then, Hisalone? For example, give gifts to others on that date as the wise men did? Sing carols? Put up a nativity scene? Hold a special prayer service to commemorate His birth?

 

[exoflare]

Neither are statues?

That’s right. Adding a question mark and some nervous laughter won’t change the fact either.

I have said we do not know with complete asssurance when Jesus was actually born.

Then you’re a hypocrite and this whole thread refutes itself.

It’s not as if anyone else here (besides possibly the other Christmas-hater who was posting) took you seriously anyway. I don’t see why you waste all this effort when your arguments are too ridiculous to convince anybody.

 

[rovimax]

As there are many members that make up the body there are many members that make up the body of Christ each supplying what is lacking in the other.

:yup: I completely agree on what you said but we should remember, as one body all parts should act as one to glorify the Head of the body, the head of the Church which is Jesus Christ. 1Cor 12:26-31. That’s is why it can’t be many groups acting differently and independently. It can’t even be united because united is composed of different groups. Chist’s body the church is ONE.

Should I celebrate the birth of my child other than the date he/she was born? Obcourse I can, I have the authority, if my child’s birthday falls on a weekday and most of the guests can’t come because of their work I can held it on a date which is convenient for guests, like weekends. I’d rather celebrate the joy of it with guests rather celebrate it on the date that guests can’t come. For me it is like weighing two things.:tiphat:

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

The question is not why do you celebrate Christmas but why do you celebrate Christmas on a day other than Christs birth?

The Mad Hatter and March Hare celebrated Alice’s birthday on another day. You gonna pick on them? Are you? ARE YOU?!

 

[Nine_Two]

Lets see Christmas was not celebrated by the apostles.
That would mean Advent is a tradition not of the apostles.
The apostles didnt say rosaries, another tradition,
No statues in homes or places of worship
No icons or relics
No prayers to “saints”
No celibate priesthood
No Easter celebration of Passover and Resurrection Sunday
I guess the list could go on and on

The list is also incorrect.

 

[Nine_Two]

The Mad Hatter and March Hare celebrated Alice’s birthday on another day. You gonna pick on them? Are you? ARE YOU?!

They were clearly wrong to do so. The day on which something is celebrated is much more important than what is being celebrated. And it must be celebrated every 365.24 days! That’s important because that’s the amount of time it takes the earth to go around the sun! But that’s not in the Bible so it must be something that only the Antichrist would do, and therefore anyone who celebrates Christmas yearly is the Antichrist!

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

They were clearly wrong to do so. The day on which something is celebrated is much more important than what is being celebrated. And it must be celebrated every 365.24 days! That’s important because that’s the amount of time it takes the earth to go around the sun! But that’s not in the Bible so it must be something that only the Antichrist would do, and therefore anyone who celebrates Christmas yearly is the Antichrist!

Pants aren’t in the Bible either, so I abstain from them. Alas, last time I went into a public place not wearing pants, I got kicked out.

 

[Nine_Two]

Pants aren’t in the Bible either, so I abstain from them. Alas, last time I went into a public place not wearing pants, I got kicked out.

Heretic.

 

[zaffiroborant]

The question is not why do you celebrate Christmas but why do you celebrate Christmas on a day other than Christs birth?

No the question is why does it have to be celebrated on the exact day of His birth? And then what is the exact day of His birth, so we can celebrate properly. And then, if we don’t know the exact date does that mean we shouldn’t celebrate the fact that He was indeed born? Can you explain why we should not celebrate His birth please.

 

[wwolverine]

The question is not why do you celebrate Christmas but why do you celebrate Christmas on a day other than Christs birth?

What about Easter Hisalone? do you celebrate it on Sunday or some other day? Do you take sunday as a holiday or is it Friday? You meaning the church you belong to?

 

[wwolverine]

When Paul refers to the saints, who is he refering to?

The Magi were brought up earlier and part of my polemic is that it took months for them to travel to Bethlehem.

So who do you think are the saints Paul mentions? If you can explain it will be better.

 

[Hisalone]

So you already have a date in mind (not that I’ve seen an actual day and month named, and freely admit I don’t know when the Feast of Tabernacles is or why that particular Jewish festival should be more relevant than Hanukkah, the Feast of Lights, but no mind).
So do you put your money where your mouth is and actually celebrate Christmas at your proposed time of year then, Hisalone? For example, give gifts to others on that date as the wise men did? Sing carols? Put up a nativity scene? Hold a special prayer service to commemorate His birth?

Read Leviticus 23

 

[Hisalone]

That’s right. Adding a question mark and some nervous laughter won’t change the fact either.

Then you’re a hypocrite and this whole thread refutes itself.

It’s not as if anyone else here (besides possibly the other Christmas-hater who was posting) took you seriously anyway. I don’t see why you waste all this effort when your arguments are too ridiculous to convince anybody.

thats not nervous laughter if is ROTFLOL
So I assume the statues you have are Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck since they have no religious meaning.

 

[Hisalone]

So who do you think are the saints Paul mentions? If you can explain it will be better.

No If I explain it you will attempt to put me on the defensive seeing as you dont know. Paul refers to those believers still living in the flesh as saints. His understanding is the same as what Protestants hold.