Why choose the Catholic faith?

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ejp123 said:
What would be an acceptable form of proof? ex. something tanglible? material? natural? or reason logic, phiolosophical theoogical?
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I would have recommended a study on the Shroud of Turin if I thought april was sincere. But, she is not. And, she is not an agnostic—she is an atheist. A true agnostic couldn’t care less about whether anyone else believes in God. This april person is bent on destroying the belief in God and in particular the Catholic Church. Plain and simple.
 
Sister_Terese said:
Ahhhh…the truth is revealed! “We will not believe!”
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I am not looking to ‘believe’ on my part. That would be useless pretence. I am looking for answers to questions. Pretending I believe in the Catholic God, gets me no where.
 
aprilfloyd said:
ST I am not providing the answers I am looking for them.
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You keep SAYING that, but you never SHOW it 🤷

Actually, you do have to provide answers, YOU came on this thread making claims. YOU need to back up those claims. You can’t start a debate by going “I believe X, prove me wrong.” You start by saying “I believe X because Y” if you can’t defend your claim then there is no discussion.
 
Sister_Terese said:
I would have recommended a study on the Shroud of Turin if I thought april was sincere. But, she is not. And, she is not an agnostic—she is an atheist. A true agnostic couldn’t care less about whether anyone else believes in God. This april person is bent on destroying the belief in God and in particular the Catholic Church. Plain and simple.
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Distinction between atheist and agnostic: here.
 
aprilfloyd said:
Are you OK Sister Terese, you seem in quite a fuddle. I am not an atheist. I appreciate that you feel it can go around in circles I feel it to. But that is the nature of my questions. I find that a lot of people in the Church, hide behind dogma or doctrine and don’t seem to be able to look at their God and religion in an objective way, to ascertain what the truths are. I always get the ’ It is true because it is’ argument or frustration from those who reply because they obviously have blind faith - I don’t - I need evidence and not philosophical suppositions or the ‘I don’t know the answer - so it must be a god’ thinking of Thomas Aquinas et al.
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Baloney.
 
aprilfloyd said:
I find when I ask questions people, obfuscate, misdirect or dance around the question. It is as if they can’t handle free thinking or simple questions and rather than say ’ I don’ know’ or the ‘Church does not have an answer to that’ - they go to great lengths to insist that what the church teaches is somehow infallible or not open to test or scrutiny - and cannot be wrong. In no other branch of human endeavour would I meet such obstinacy.

I think my favourite is the disingenuous * ‘There is only one God’*

I know that the person typing could easily name about a dozen gods without even trying, off the top of their head.

There are so many people proclaiming absolutes in morality, behaviour and sexuality. It is remarkable!! I can’t help thinking that people are just having a laugh when they make such staunch statements ’ Masturbation is Wrong’ 'Same Sex Marriage is Wrong, ‘there is only one God’.

When I think of man’s progress in the last 150 years. It is hard to imagine how this type of thinking can survive. The church will have to grow via the third world countries. As they are in danger of being nothing more than an anachronism by the civilised world.

I say all of this in the hope - that people are just having fun and that there are some genuine people on the forum who are genuinely interested in providing some answers.
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Again, baloney.
 
aprilfloyd said:
I am not looking to ‘believe’ on my part. That would be useless pretence. I am looking for answers to questions. Pretending I believe in the Catholic God, gets me no where.
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And neither do your “arguments”.
 
dshix said:
You are an agnostic, even if you will not admit it.

You don’t have to call yourself something or believe it for it to be true.
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Why do people use strange labels - I am not an atheist or agnostic, having read both definitions.
 
aprilfloyd said:
Why do people use strange labels - I am not an atheist or agnostic, having read both definitions.
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Well, I’m sorry then to tell you that you are in denial.

If someone asks you if you are American, European, Asian, or something else, you can’t say “none of the above” because that means you are nothing, which is something.
 
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