Why did God create dinosaurs

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Memaw said:
NO where in the Bible or Catholic teaching is there anything that states there ARE animals in heaven. That thinking only exists in the imagination of those who want to tell God what HE can do. God Bless, Memaw
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Ah…thank you for confirming my post. You’ve taken the negative and tried to make it a positive. No where in the Bible is there any indication of what humans are in heaven. So I guess we’re just not going to make it.
 
spn82756 said:
We know that animals do not have an immortal soul. We also know (well…some of us do) that God can do what He pleases. Nowhere in the Bible or Catholic teaching is there anything that states there are no animals in heaven. That thinking only exists in those that create God in their image.
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Please check out God’s image (what God is) and let me know. Thanks.
 
Memaw said:
NO where in the Bible or Catholic teaching is there anything that states there ARE animals in heaven. That thinking only exists in the imagination of those who want to tell God what HE can do. God Bless, Memaw
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No where in the Bible does it say that you are right. No where in the Bible does it say that Mary is in heaven. No where in the Bible does it say that Peter is in heaven . No where in the Bible does it say that Memaw will go to heaven. Hmmmmm
 
spn82756 said:
Ah…thank you for confirming my post. You’ve taken the negative and tried to make it a positive. No where in the Bible is there any indication of what humans are in heaven. So I guess we’re just not going to make it.
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Do check out the Catholic Deposit of Faith and how this is formed. When you find out, please let me know. Thanks.
 
grannymh said:
Please check out God’s image (what God is) and let me know. Thanks.
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I know who God is. I just don’t paint him into a tiny box that fundamentalists do. LOL… I was just talking to my priest today. All he could say is that we don’t know. I’m sure that many of gnostics on this thread could tell him differently.
 
grannymh said:
Do check out the Catholic Deposit of Faith and how this is formed. When you find out, please let me know. Thanks.
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Actually…I ask you to tell me where there is no chance that animals are in heaven. Good luck. And don’t quote the immortal soul stuff. We know that. The difference between you…a fundamentalist… and me… someone who doesn’t box God is obvious.

BTW…have you ever thought of becoming an apologist on CAF? They’ve answered this question. Of course…not to your liking.

The church has rejected gnostics a long time ago. Hmmmm…about 2000 years ago.

Take it up with the CAF apologists.
 
spn82756 said:
No where in the Bible does it say that you are right. No where in the Bible does it say that Mary is in heaven. No where in the Bible does it say that Peter is in heaven . No where in the Bible does it say that Memaw will go to heaven. Hmmmmm
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You might find that the Catholic Transmission of Divine Revelation and following in the Catechism of the Catholic Church to be of interest.
 
spn82756 said:
Actually…I ask you to tell me where there is no chance that animals are in heaven. Good luck. And don’t quote the immortal soul stuff. We know that. The difference between you…a fundamentalist… and me… someone who doesn’t box God is obvious.

BTW…have you ever thought of becoming an apologist on CAF? They’ve answered this question. Of course…not to your liking.

The church has rejected gnostics a long time ago. Hmmmm…about 2000 years ago.

Take it up with the CAF apologists.
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What a wonderful informative post. 🙂 Makes me feel young again.
This is for you. :flowers:

Blessings,
granny

Isaiah 55
 
spn82756 said:
Ah…thank you for confirming my post. You’ve taken the negative and tried to make it a positive. No where in the Bible is there any indication of what humans are in heaven. So I guess we’re just not going to make it.
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Me thinks you are a bit confused.
 
spn82756 said:
No where in the Bible does it say that you are right. No where in the Bible does it say that Mary is in heaven. No where in the Bible does it say that Peter is in heaven . No where in the Bible does it say that Memaw will go to heaven. Hmmmmm
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No where in the Bible does it say that animals go to heaven, I have asked several times for those who believe that to show me where is says they do, in the Bible or in Catholic Church teaching and all you say is ‘show me where it says they don’t go to heaven’ or ‘God can do anything he wants.’ or we ‘box’ God in. Very intelligent answers but you still can’t show me where the Bible or the Church teaches such a notion. Just your vivid imagination. Seems to me that your trying to make God into what ‘you’ want HIM to be. God Bless, Memaw

P.S. The Assumption of the Blessed Mother into Heaven is a Dogma of Catholic Faith. If you want to be a true Catholic, ya gotta believe that.
 
spn82756 said:
We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Pope Benedict XVI.

No…we are not. I agree completely. We are the product of a God driven/guided evolution…as Popes have taught for decades.
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What Popes?? show us some proof!!. And PLEASE don’t tell me to prove that they didn’t teach it for decades. God Bless, Memaw
 
spn82756 said:
We know that animals do not have an immortal soul. We also know (well…some of us do) that God can do what He pleases. Nowhere in the Bible or Catholic teaching is there anything that states there are no animals in heaven. That thinking only exists in those that create God in their image.
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Steve, when you say “we know that animals do not have an immortal soul,” what is your evidence for this claim? It could be there is a scientific basis for this, but it could be just a saying made up by humans, who naturally assume that they alone have immortal souls.

But is may have a basis in science, and I wonder if this would be genetic, or perhaps neurological. Are you suggesting that possession or not of an immortal soul is a genetic issue? Or is it a matter of only humans having the suitably complex neural structure to receive as soul. I have an active interest in this question, and I’m frustrated that no one has yet been able to answer it for me.

StAnastasia
 
spn82756 said:
We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Pope Benedict XVI.

No…we are not. I agree completely. We are the product of a God driven/guided evolution…as Popes have taught for decades.
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The Pope is wrong.
Memaw said:
Many years ago this article was in the ‘Letter to the Editor’ of our local paper. I thought it so clever I saved it.

Evolution’s Leap of Faith;

A billion or so years ago, in a geothermically heated pool of ooze, a chance gathering of chemicals was energized by lightning, and a life form was created from all supracomplex life forms, including humans, originated.
To believe this notion, preferred by evolutionists, atheists, etc., one must believe that this “life form” was immediately able to ingest nourishment and turn it into energy, thus ensuring its survival. More important qualities, if this miracle in the mud was to survive, would have been the ability and drive to replicate and reproduce. Conceding these qualities to a clump of excited chemicals requires a greater leap of faith than believing in a God-Creator.
Science has never witnessed or caused regenerative life to originate from non-living chemicals. Conversely, it is science’s experience that regenerative life comes only from existing life. Therefore, a living entity, (GOD), existing when life began on Earth, was most probably the origin of life.

God Bless, Memaw
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More evidence that many people do not understand evolution. Evolution is the process of increasing complexity after life already exists. It doesn’t answer the origin question. Scientists still working on that.
 
Memaw said:
Evolution’s Leap of Faith; billion or so years ago, in a geothermically heated pool of ooze, a chance gathering of chemicals was energized by lightning, and a life form was created from all supracomplex life forms, including humans, originated.
To believe this notion, preferred by evolutionists, atheists, etc., one must believe that this “life form” was immediately able to ingest nourishment and turn it into energy, thus ensuring its survival. More important qualities, if this miracle in the mud was to survive, would have been the ability and drive to replicate and reproduce. Conceding these qualities to a clump of excited chemicals requires a greater leap of faith than believing in a God-Creator.
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This has nothing to do with evolution. You are confusing it with the theory of abiogenesis.
 
Memaw said:
Not really, I “think” I will choose to follow Church teaching. There! I can use my free will to choose. Thanks be to God!, God Bless, Memaw
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But, the real question is - Is it really a rational and objective choice, or is it something you’ve been conditioned to from early childhood? Are your parents of the same general faith as you? If you were hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, where you were born and your ancestry too, you’d be defending the Holy Qur’ran and the Hadith. Allah would be your God, and Muhammad his latest Prophet, and a 12th Imam soon to come.

None of us chooses where we’re born.
 
Mr_Skeptic said:
But, the real question is - Is it really a rational and objective choice, or is it something you’ve been conditioned to from early childhood?
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In real life, being conditioned from childhood doesn’t mean much. Especially these days since parents are not as religious as in the past. Family allegiance is disappearing as families break apart due to divorce, remarriage or partnership. Obviously, there are areas in the world where family influence is strong. But overall, in the west, independent thinking drives decisions regarding how much religion is taken seriously.

Blessings,
granny

Isaiah 55
 
grannymh said:
You have that one right, brother. Praise God that He has done the thinking for me.👍

Now I know why God created me with a different nature than the dionsaur and the dog. 😃
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If it makes you happy and fulfills your life, I say, have at it! 👍 (as long as it doesn’t infringe on others’ rights)

You have every right to believe what you want.
 
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