Why did God create if he knew some people would go to hell?

[Paul_theApostle]

God will give every oppurtunity for every soul to respond to His love and to accept and know Jesus.

all the souls who end up in hell,throughout their life God wouldve given them every oppurtunity to accept His love and open their hearts to him,God created them out of his love to share in his divinity and union in the Holy Spirit to be eternally wedded to Him through Jesus Christ and His Church,

If they end up in hell,it is not Gods fault,God can do nothing more than what he has done through Jesus dying on the Cross for us,

If they reject God that is their Choice,God out of his abundant love cannot help but create out of love creatures to be in divine union with him.

God fulfilled his end of the bargain by doing everything he could to save us and even dying for us.

The GIFT of freedom and free will is part of living in union with Christ,as love lets others be free otherwise true love wouldnt exist.

Love and free will is what its all about.

 

[bentcurve]

all the souls who end up in hell,throughout their life God wouldve given them every oppurtunity to accept His love and open their hearts to him,God created them out of his love to share in his divinity and union in the Holy Spirit to be eternally wedded to Him through Jesus Christ and His Church,

When and how?

When I liven in Asia most of them did not even realize Christianity was a religion. So somehow they are going to have the same advantage given to them that someone born in Rome or the US does to encounter God and accept him? I just do not see how what you are saying works right, unless God is unfair and plays favorites.

Does this mean you also believe that there are no Jews who will be part of the vision?

 

[tonyrey]

When and how?

When I liven in Asia most of them did not even realize Christianity was a religion. So somehow they are going to have the same advantage given to them that someone born in Rome or the US does to encounter God and accept him? I just do not see how what you are saying works right, unless God is unfair and plays favorites.

Does this mean you also believe that there are no Jews who will be part of the vision?

It is impossible for everyone to be born into the world with the same advantages and opportunities. Our destiny depends quite simply on the extent to which we** love** others within the limits of our knowledge and understanding. God doesn’t expect an impossible standard of perfection…

 

[Paul_theApostle]

When and how?

When I liven in Asia most of them did not even realize Christianity was a religion. So somehow they are going to have the same advantage given to them that someone born in Rome or the US does to encounter God and accept him? I just do not see how what you are saying works right, unless God is unfair and plays favorites.

Does this mean you also believe that there are no Jews who will be part of the vision?

In their heart and soul then with the laws of God which are written in each mans heart and Conscience tells them what is right and wrong.

How could one believe that Dod does not pour his love upon all creatures and give them the oppurtunity to recieve Him.

No man also goes goes to Heaven because God destined them to ,and no matter what they did good or bad,because God knew they would go to heaven then they would…

Souls in heaven wouldve lived righteously making correct decisions in life how to serve their conscience and God and in denying this life for the next.

Every soul has the same oppurtunity to live righteously but if they choose to remain evil then that is their own doing and their own choice and God did all he can to save every man through dying for us.

 

[NeedImprovement]

God created for this reason…

…BUT, I digress, he created because it was simply better to have something than nothing. It was better to have man than to not.

This would appear to imply that God created us out of self-love , which in turn would imply that He is lacking in the virtues; hence not actually God , or a flawed God at the very least.

… difficult thought to follow .

 

[bentcurve]

Well, having something as opposed to nothing as the source of creation is the only rational reasoning. All of creation is something that exist to server God. If you really read Gensis you will see that God made us because he liked what he had made, but there was no one else to appreciate it.

So god creates because to have something is better to have nothing.
He was very impressed with his own creation, I imagine the same way a painter is with a painting.
He made man so there could be something to appreciate it. Like a painter displays work.

There is not much else that could have spawned creation is we use reason and the Bible.

 

[NeedImprovement]

Well, having something as opposed to nothing as the source of creation is the only rational reasoning. All of creation is something that exist to server God. If you really read Gensis you will see that God made us because he liked what he had made, but there was no one else to appreciate it.

So god creates because to have something is better to have nothing.
He was very impressed with his own creation, I imagine the same way a painter is with a painting.
He made man so there could be something to appreciate it. Like a painter displays work.

There is not much else that could have spawned creation is we use reason and the Bible.

Thankyou for the explanation - that’s a little easier for me to follow.

The Church appears to interpret from the book of Genesis that God created us out of love; it is how we pray during Mass :

PREFACE II , FOR WEEKDAYS IN ORDINARY TIME

Father, all-powerful and ever-living God,
we do well always and everywhere to give You thanks.

In love You created us,
in justice You condemned us,
but in mercy You redeemed us,
through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Through Him the angels and all the choirs of heaven worship in awe before Your presence.
May our voices be one with theirs as they sing with joy the hymn of Your glory:
…

I’m not sure it is the only reason, but as you say,

bentcurve:

Well, having something as opposed to nothing as the source of creation is the only rational reasoning

… is definitely one rational explanation. But it seems a little short of objectivity because it comes from our human minds, and thus in one way, would presume to know God as He knows Himself. We say that God is totally self-sufficient, so he wouldn’t really have any need for us. To me then, the only rational explanation is something not totally rational - Gods unfathomable, love.

God cannot really “have” us, until we exercise our free will . He can say he “created” us, but He can’t really “have” us until we give ourselves to Him - out of love, which must be free - unconstrained .

As those redeemed, our relationship with God is meant to be so much more than a type of master-servant , cognitive thing . We have a much more lofty calling since the fall . God wishes to share his very Divine life with us and invites us to get to know Him personally -

**Matt 11:27 **[NAB]

All things have been handed over to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son wishes to reveal him.

I think it is notable, that when asked what the greatest commandment of all was, Jesus didn’t reply - “You have to *serve *God…”

but rather ( Mark 12:30 )

“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength…”

As Saint Therese of Lisieux says, “Love is repaid by love alone.”