Why did God make us in the first place?

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God didn’t have to make us, He is all powerful, all knowing, and He is love. He didnt’t need to make us, He had everything He would have needed. He chose to make us because he wanted people to love and for the people to love Him. He desired to love people, so He created humans in His image and likeness. God made us so we could love Him and Glorify Himm all of our lives. Does that make sense?
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Couldn’t one contest that God already had perfect Love which showed to his son, through which we call the Holy Spirit, wasn’t tht sufficient?

Just a little thought rolling through my head:rotfl:
 
God created us because He wanted to, not because He needed to, for prior to creation God already enjoyed the full and unchanging love relationships among the persons of the Trinity. Our existence, is sheer gift.

However, God’s love meant that He had to share this loving relationship, already existing fully and eternally within the Trinity, with all other beings. Thus, He created us. Sharing it with others, is therefore love’s greatest manifestation.

Other beings can only love Him truly by giving them free will, so He created us endowed with it. Without free will, one cannot be said to love. He thus wanted us to choose to love Him, just as He freely chose to create and love us. However, free choice works both ways. One who can choose to love can likewise choose to reject, though we have to bear the consequences or reap the rewards of our choices.

Gerry 🙂
 
'Cause we’re a HOOT!

Sorry, couldn’t resist. I suppose it’s as good an answer as any, though. When God tells me, I’ll let you all know 🙂
 
I am trying to save the soul of an athiest. He is open to discussion but has an endless list of questions. He is a member of Mensa and kurt, silly, or cliche answers don’t work with him. I have written three-page e-mails to him regarding a couple of questions and he responds with more questions.

I’m not saying these things to drum up advice on how to handle this guy. I’m saying this so that you will understand the kind of answer I need to my original question.

I, as a Catholic, do not need the level of answer that I keep harping for but I can think the way he does and judge how he would react to the answers I see in this forum. Here is an excerpt from his latest dissertation to me:

"I know that it is a thorn in your
side, my being a heathen non-believer and all. (LOL!)
While I recognize that there are many theories
regarding ‘Why’ an all-knowing, all-perfect God might
need or want to create a race of beings who could grow
to know and love him/her/it, I simply find the
arguement spurious, since there is no actual reason.
If He did, then He did it for reasons we probably
wouldn’t understand or care about, possibly even
reasons we wouldn’t want to hear. "

—CTESLAK
 
I’m afraid that you won’t receive the kind of answer you’re looking for. We simply don’t know the mind of God on this issue other than what has been said in Scripture, namely that we are here to share in existance and glorify God. There is no better answer than that.

I recommend that you simply acknowledge that with your atheist friend. You’re better off admitting when your knowledge is limited then trying to fluff through an answer. Knowing why God created us isn’t going to convert them anyway; it will take a very real conversion of their heart that only God can provide. You can only help guide them on the path once they’ve stepped on it themselves.
 
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cteslak:
Why did God make us in the first place? What’s in it for Him? He doesn’t need us. He’s not lonely. If the answer is that we need God, then we would not have needed God had we never existed. We could not have just sprung out His overflowing abundance of love/life because the Bible tells us that God willed us into being.
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Hi cteslak,
The answer is in the bible. David asked this question, What is man etc? We are a temple. God is building a temple. There are clues in many places. Ie Jesus is a carpenter. Jesus is the cornerstone. Jesus is not a piece of granite but the cornerstone of the temple. We are that temple. Perish the thought of a tin shed. Now our minds can’t grasp the glory that will be ours as a member of this Holy Temple, but by reading Paul’s letters , we see where Paul alluded to that glory.Just look to the stars and the heavens. Revelation says, I will give you the morning star. Not a small gift surely.
Dig around, it is quite clear and certain. Off hand I think Matthew also contains answers.
Why are we here, why not build us straight into the temple. Well He knows us psychologically, he made us and He knows how to make us strong and Holy. We are in the process of being made Holy, which includes knowledge, Adam’s prayer. Although we are being refined, His loving grace is always available. We are in a kindergarten and He is looking through the window at us and we can’t come to any harm. Mostly it is just our fears and pride. If we follow His will, we are on easy street, the cutting off dead branches and the pruning to increase all lead to increased love and pleasure.
Compare the bond between a football team and a non contact sport. THe blows certainly increase the bond, the love and respect. Part of our psychology.
Just trust in Him, He is almighty, He loves us, just follow His will, live in Christ and be glorified in the appropriate time.

Walk in love
edwinG
 
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Peg:
The Old Baltimore Catechism response. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world and to be happy with Him forever in the next.
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Yes the Baltimore Catechism ! That is exactly what I was taught almost 50 years ago in answer to the question: “Why did God Make us?” To Know, the Love and to serve Him now and in the next world.
 
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cteslak:
Why did God make us in the first place? What’s in it for Him? He doesn’t need us. He’s not lonely. If the answer is that we need God, then we would not have needed God had we never existed. We could not have just sprung out His overflowing abundance of love/life because the Bible tells us that God willed us into being.
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Because He wanted to.

Pure and simple.

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