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rudy2295
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Thank you.
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rudy2295
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i might go and see the priest today.
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ChristianCath
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Hello,
What is the cross made of? If you want to keep the cross, have it blessed by a priest. If the figure is a wolf, it could represent an old form of art. Art history is fascinating, look it up on the web. Many things represent good and evil from long ago.
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What is the cross made of? If you want to keep the cross, have it blessed by a priest. If the figure is a wolf, it could represent an old form of art. Art history is fascinating, look it up on the web. Many things represent good and evil from long ago.
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bengland
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The ebay seller, linked to earlier in this thread, that sells a similar cross with the flowers also sells figurines of dogs and other animals. That thing looks like a manufacturing error that somehow ended up being shoved into the base of the cross. Maybe someone in a sweatshop did it to hide their mistake so they wouldn’t get into trouble? It explains the other quality control issues as well.
Maybe the idol can be broken somehow and have the cross blessed if it bothers you.
Maybe the idol can be broken somehow and have the cross blessed if it bothers you.
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rudy2295
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i think its some kind of melted liquid. its probably not a natural material.
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rudy2295
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okely Dokely.
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BLUEMOON74
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Rudy did you go to your priest yet? What did he say? Is your brother ok?
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LynnGM
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Any updates? Rudy, you were correct in being concerned. I was weirded out by the pics of the cross and figure. The figure has a chubby Buddha look to it. I am bothered by it being “hidden” in the cross, even if it was part of “recycling”.
And yes, I agree there is a trend to blend the occult with Catholicism. There is a store in my neighborhood with huge statues of Catholic saints in the windows. I went inside- the store sells Santeria supplies. I wanted to leave so badly, but I had to make my way through these long, narrow aisles. I also couldn’t open the door fast enough. (Probably just my overactive imagination, but in my Wicca/New Age days, I met a few Santeria/Voodoo practitioners.) I’ve noticed the store is very tricky in its display- little Santeria statues among large Catholic statues.
Ewww, and then there was the dead rat outside the store! Yuck!
IMHO, the cross needs to go.
And yes, I agree there is a trend to blend the occult with Catholicism. There is a store in my neighborhood with huge statues of Catholic saints in the windows. I went inside- the store sells Santeria supplies. I wanted to leave so badly, but I had to make my way through these long, narrow aisles. I also couldn’t open the door fast enough. (Probably just my overactive imagination, but in my Wicca/New Age days, I met a few Santeria/Voodoo practitioners.) I’ve noticed the store is very tricky in its display- little Santeria statues among large Catholic statues.
Ewww, and then there was the dead rat outside the store! Yuck!
IMHO, the cross needs to go.
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abort73catholic
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Oh dear…that really…kinda creeped me out…
lol last summer, when me, my dad, and two of my three younger brothers went on vacation, we went to Washington D.C. Our hotel was in Alexandria, Virginia, so every morning we would commute by the metro into the city. Well…every morning on the drive to the metro station, we would pass this little store that was off the interstate/highway in the business district. In the windows, we could see statues of Mary and Jesus…you know, a nice, Catholic-looking place. Guess what the sign outside also said? Yep…“tarot card readings, fortunes, etc.”…that kind of thing.
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GodIsGracious
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I think that what was probably mistaken for a cross in all innocence is most likely a pagan or wiccan symbol (the actual cross itself.) It’s too “flowery” - almost druidic like. Druids, I believe, worship “nature.”
I know a “wiccan priestess” who has a statue of St. Francis of Assisi in her front yard because she likes him, what he represents, and she loves animals. She even “blessed” it.
Walk into her house and there are pentacles and other wiccan/pagan symbols. She has an “altar room” with the “Horned God” prominently displayed. (That’s the man-goat sitting cross legged symbol.)
So they’re known for combining Christian imagery and symbolism with their own symbols.
First of all, if you bought it in a gift shop, there’s a high probability that it was made in China or Taiwan. Cheap gift shop trinkets are usually made from there.
Secondly, I think this was really a pagan symbol especially with all the flowers, the fact that it doesn’t really look like a cross (the bars on the top or bottom, or the “square” that is behind the “cross” part), and the fact that there was some animal totem buried inside the cross. Whatever kind of animal it is, doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t even call it a cross at this point. Remember, various practitioners of the occult use christian symbols and even bible verses they like for their items.
I personally believe there are no accidents. It was no accident that piece of this item fell off, it’s RIGHT IN FRONT of the buried totem inside! How obvious could that be?
If you’re really curious about it, send the pictures to the resources listed here, but do get it out of your house. And quickly. This is definitely something of the occult, even though you did buy it in a “mere” gift shop. Sometimes gift shop owners don’t think, they just want inventory and merchandise for their shops. Many times they don’t even KNOW.
And as a Catholic, I think you should stick with crucifixes. I was given a celtic cross from my boyfriend’s dad during confirmation. That’s part of their Irish heritage. But I’m not Irish and I was disappointed it wasn’t a crucifix. As a Catholic it is important. As someone noted, the crucifix is the most “shunned” Christian symbol and yet, the crucifixion of Christ and his resurrection is the reason we’re here.
I know a “wiccan priestess” who has a statue of St. Francis of Assisi in her front yard because she likes him, what he represents, and she loves animals. She even “blessed” it.
Walk into her house and there are pentacles and other wiccan/pagan symbols. She has an “altar room” with the “Horned God” prominently displayed. (That’s the man-goat sitting cross legged symbol.)
So they’re known for combining Christian imagery and symbolism with their own symbols.
First of all, if you bought it in a gift shop, there’s a high probability that it was made in China or Taiwan. Cheap gift shop trinkets are usually made from there.
Secondly, I think this was really a pagan symbol especially with all the flowers, the fact that it doesn’t really look like a cross (the bars on the top or bottom, or the “square” that is behind the “cross” part), and the fact that there was some animal totem buried inside the cross. Whatever kind of animal it is, doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t even call it a cross at this point. Remember, various practitioners of the occult use christian symbols and even bible verses they like for their items.
I personally believe there are no accidents. It was no accident that piece of this item fell off, it’s RIGHT IN FRONT of the buried totem inside! How obvious could that be?
If you’re really curious about it, send the pictures to the resources listed here, but do get it out of your house. And quickly. This is definitely something of the occult, even though you did buy it in a “mere” gift shop. Sometimes gift shop owners don’t think, they just want inventory and merchandise for their shops. Many times they don’t even KNOW.
And as a Catholic, I think you should stick with crucifixes. I was given a celtic cross from my boyfriend’s dad during confirmation. That’s part of their Irish heritage. But I’m not Irish and I was disappointed it wasn’t a crucifix. As a Catholic it is important. As someone noted, the crucifix is the most “shunned” Christian symbol and yet, the crucifixion of Christ and his resurrection is the reason we’re here.
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GodIsGracious
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In my book version of the Douay-Rheims version, what I see in Psalm 113:15 is:
I just purchased this one. Did I buy the wrong one? I got it at a local Catholic bookstore. It has the Imprimatur from Francis J. Spellman, D.D. Archbishop of New York and Nihil Obstat Arthur J. Scanlan, S.T.D., Censor Librorum. It is from Loreto Publications:
loretopubs.org/index.php?target=products&product_id=56
Uhm. Now I’m concerned.
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treeleaf
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Please let us know what your Priest thinks. To me, it looks like a cute bear and I’m with theory of it being made with recycled parts, or failing that, that is was put there on purpose as a feature. From your photo of the cross in one piece, could you not see it through the gap between the cross and the base?
I have absolutely no experience with occult/pagan practices though, so it wouldn’t have occured to me to think that it was anything sinister.
I have absolutely no experience with occult/pagan practices though, so it wouldn’t have occured to me to think that it was anything sinister.
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