Why did the lord appear to Mary Magdalene first?

[ConstantLearner]

Are you really going to propose God works like that? Even for a Jewish person, who has God as Lord, Primacy Of position, over and above the monarchs of Jewish history, God does not work by random chance

Well, why don’t you give the poster a reason why you think he appeared to her first? Or why you might not think it?

I will decline to answer you question as it’s off-topic.

 

[Ioannes_L]

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[Roseeurekacross]

In neither passage does Jesus converse with her much, which seems plausible to me. He had things to do with the disciples.

Oh come on, John says, if we are going to quote Sacred Scripture, if everything was written about what Jesus did in those days, There would be no place on earth to keep all the books.

And guess what, Saint Mary Magdalene was a disciple. So yes The Crucified risen Jesus had lots to do with His Christians in those 40 days.

Then Jesus called Paul…

 

[ConstantLearner]

Oh come on, John says, if we are going to quote Sacred Scripture, if everything was written about what Jesus did in those days, There would be no place on earth to keep all the books.

That’s off-topic. Hardly fair to the original poster. Or the person who posted that Jesus first appeared to his mother. Do you believe John Paul II’s belief that Jesus first appeared to his mother?

 

[Dorothy]

I thought it was Mother Mary Agreda, and this site confirms it:

Did Christ Appear First to His Mother after Resurrection? - Taylor Marshall

 

[midori]

I think I ran a decent recap of Agreda’s stance around post 25’ish, fwiw.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

That’s off-topic. Hardly fair to the original poster. Or the person who posted that Jesus first appeared to his mother. Do you believe John Paul II’s belief that Jesus first appeared to his mother?

If you are going to make claims, be prepared for the holes in your attempts to discredit the resurrection to be stated

 

[ConstantLearner]

I thought it was Mother Mary Agreda, and this site confirms it:

Someone posted a tract from JPII in which he says Jesus first appeared to his mother. It’s on the board. I read most of it, and I don’t buy it even though I have the utmost respect for JPII and despite the fact that he knew more about Catholic theology than I’ll ever know. I know he was very, very devoted to the mother of Jesus, even believing she saved his life when he was shot.

If we use scripture as a judge only, then Marry Magdalene was the first to see the risen Jesus. I would have to assume she wasn’t alone, and the other women saw Jesus as well, though they might not have known him as well.

 

[ConstantLearner]

I think I ran a decent recap of Agreda’s stance around post 25’ish, fwiw.

Thank you. I saw an article on the Internet not long ago saying she was the first.

 

[Hope1960]

board. I read most of it, and I don’t buy it even though I have the utmost respect for JPII and despite the fact that he knew more about Catholic theology than I’ll ever know.

Maybe that should tell you something.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

If we use scripture as a judge only, then Marry Magdalene was the first to see the risen Jesus.

Catholics don’t use Scripture as a Judge only. Another little gem of a theologian is Pope Benedict. As is Saint Pope John Paul 11

 

[ConstantLearner]

No, it doesn’t, and you’re off-topic.

 

[Dorothy]

Yes, I do accept that we are to look to Scripture first, regardless of what is said in private revelation.

I had remembered reading about that in her book of private revelations.

 

[Hope1960]

No, it doesn’t, and you’re off-topic.

I’m simply responding to something YOU said.

 

[ConstantLearner]

I’m simply responding to something YOU said.

I was speaking of Mary Magdalene, not me. This is a thread about her.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

The most reasonable conclusion is that Jesus, if he existed, and I think he did, was not resurrected from the dead. The laws of probability tell us that.when something seemingly out of the norm happens, the most probable conclusion is the one that most closely follows natural law. People do not rise from the dead. The near death, now, but not the dead. Therefore, it is most reasonable, and probable, to conclude that Jesus did not.

Jesus was not just a person, He was and is God, so yes He can and He did rise from the dead. That is the reasonable conclusion.

Also, there were 12 apostles (Matthias replaced Judas) that followed Him, that were eye witnesses to His life, death and resurrection. All of these apostles, except for John, were martyred and in some very cruel ways. They were beheaded, burned to death, sawed, hung up side down, pierced with a sword and horribly - skin removed, left to bleed and then beheaded. I am sure if they were lying, at least one of them would have given up the lie rather than go through the torture but none did. They all suffered for Christ.

People don’t go through that for a lie. Jesus was real. Jesus died and rose again and there were witnesses who were willing to die a tortuous death for what they knew was true because they saw it.

Does it matter if MM was the first he met? He didn’t converse with her much.

I think it matters to the OP.

To help answer the question, the gospels say Jesus first appeared to Mary Magdelene but many saints held traditionally that He appeared to His mother first or that they were so connected that His Mother knew or already believed without proof.

Catholics are free to hold either thought.

 

[ConstantLearner]

To help answer the question, the gospels say Jesus first appeared to Mary Magdelene but many saints held traditionally that He appeared to His mother first or that they were so connected that His Mother knew or already believed without proof.

But, as another poster said, you look to Scripture first. Scripture tells the reader he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, in all the gospels. Although the stories differ in details, probably due to recollection, all are in agreement that Jesus appeared first to Mary Magdalene. The poster wants to know why that would be.

I believe G-d is intimately involved in the goings-on in the world, but I don’t believe he micro-manages. I do believe some things happen by chance. Maybe this was just chance. She came there, in the company of others, very early in the morning.

 

[Hope1960]

To help answer the question, the gospels say Jesus first appeared to Mary Magdelene but many saints held traditionally that He appeared to His mother first or that they were so connected that His Mother knew or already believed without proof.

I think whoever (roseeurekacross?) said that we don’t adhere to just Scripture said it best.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

But, as another poster said, you look to Scripture first. Scripture tells the reader he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, in all the gospels.

I think whoever (roseeurekacross?) said that we don’t adhere to just Scripture said it best.

Yes, Catholics are not Bible only people. We also follow Tradition. Tradition helps us understand Scripture.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Catholics have Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. And we have the Holy Spirit to guide the Church. We must also remember that Jesus central message was about the kingdom of God. Everything Jesus taught was about the reign of God, the Parables described it, the miracles showed just how close the reign of God was.
And the New Testament has many Tensive Symbols to peel back, to look at the teachings of the kingdom of God.

So we must look at the Tensive Symbols in each empty tomb story. To really understand.