Why did YOU leave The Church?

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I don’t know what to say really.
What Church teachings do you disagree on, and why?
Parishes are different, maybe find one which is more friendly.
have you talked to a Holy Priest about how you feel?

It’s sad that these things happen to people you know. Continue to help them. The Lord is among those who suffer.

Are you depressed? To be “okay” with choosing hell is scary.
Eternity is a long time. why would you choose to go there? (if anyone is in hell it is because they chose it)

I am struggling to, It is hard for me to pray. but I am stuborn and still Cling To God and His Holy Church.

I think watching EWTN can help. They have helpful programs.

May The Lord, Our God Bless You and Keep You!
 
I’m blow away at how biased and insulting this poll is? All the choices are written in the negative implying anyone who leaves the Church does so out of foolhardiness, stupidity, ignorance, or a desire to get back at Catholics or prove someone wrong. It’s highly insulting. Why not word it without bias and with objectivity?

Why did you leave the Church?

Disagreement over doctrinal issues

A negative experience at the pastoral level

A bad experience with parishoners, etc.

Disagreement with church polity

Divergence with Catholics’ views of history

Theological disagreement

Moral issue like birth control, etc.

Friends or family joined another church and invited you

Something missing?

A postiive experience while visiting another church got you curious

Church scandals
 
I actually didn’t think of anything else. These are good things to add.

I asked the questions in a way so that those who answered them would admit to something.

For those who left because of different beliefs. “proof” that The Church was wrong.

For those who left because of maybe liberal choices. “doing things The Church says is wrong”

and many Catholics don’t understand their faith very well.
I didn’t know The Church very well when I left. I came back after learning.

Other. This option is because I wanted to think of other things but couldn’t.

maybe I should have written the questions in a more neutral way. but I don’t remember thinking it was wrong.

But those are some of the reasons why people leave The Church.
 
I don’t know what to say really.
What Church teachings do you disagree on, and why?
Parishes are different, maybe find one which is more friendly.
have you talked to a Holy Priest about how you feel?
I’m not sure you could say I completely ‘disagree’ with any one specific teaching, it’s just that I prefer to go about things in a different way. Instead of proclaiming pro-life all the time, why not create a society that welcomes those who choose to keep their children, one which doesn’t pressure and judge the afflicted? Instead of being to concerned with contraception, why not live out a good life helping others and showing them that there’s more to life and love than arguing over that? I just prefer different approaches.
Of course I also have my own opinions on such things, which aren’t always in agreement with the CC as well.
I don’t know any priest that I’d feel comfortable talking with. They’re all so serious and busy, I feel as if they’d be judgmental of my concerns and opinions anyways.
Are you depressed? To be “okay” with choosing hell is scary.
Eternity is a long time. why would you choose to go there? (if anyone is in hell it is because they chose it)
No, I’m not. I’m just so cynical and apathetic because of life that I don’t see a point in stressing and being paranoid about whether I’ll go to Heaven or Hell. I’d rather live out my life and be a good, moral person on my own instead of wondering which sins will condemn me. Of course I’d prefer Heaven, but if my sins aren’t in compliance with God’s will and purity, then I can’t truly enter Heaven, can I? I suppose there’s always purgatory, though.
 
I left a year after joining the Church for two reasons: 1) because I didn’t understand my faith very well, and 2) because of a negative experience at the pastoral level. I joined the Church while I was in boot camp during the first Gulf War. I had a ‘fast-track’ catechesis because of my situation (the priest thought it prudent for me to be baptized in case I got sent to the war). The priest said that even though I didn’t fully understand some of the teachings of the Church, I could complete my catechesis after I got out of boot camp. I learned about RCIA when I got out of boot camp and back to civilian life (long story). I went to the local Catholic church, explained my situation and asked if I could sit in on the classes to finish my catechesis, and was told since I was already Catholic I should already know everything I needed to know and that I couldn’t sit in on the class. I moved and asked at my new parish about sitting in on the RCIA class and was told the same thing. I wondered how I was supposed to learn about everything I was supposed to believe – I had a few things I didn’t completely understand – since I couldn’t find any books on Catholic doctrine in the library. I was also very much put off by the that nobody seemed interested in helping me to understand some of the things I was supposed to believe, so I stopped going to Mass and found another church that accepted me where I was in my walk with Christ. I learned so much about what it means to be a Christian during this time. Five years later, the Catechism of the Catholic Church was published and I finally got answers and explanations for my questions. It took another 5 years for me to get over the hard feelings I had towards the lack of charity I experienced and come back to full communion with the Church.
 
I was brought up strict Roman Catholic and served in the church as lector and alter server as a young boy. I attended Catholic school and learned what the nuns and priest and my devote parents taught me. The trouble is that they did not teach me much regarding the bible. The bible is not brought by the average Catholic to Mass nor is it encouraged. In my younger years also the Mass was in Latin. That is strange for a church to shepard it’s flock with an unfamiliar languge.

The catholic church also teaches that works weather good or bad will determine ones final eternal security. I believed that and was taught that , and it had an (name removed by moderator)act on me for the good i might add. One thing that challanged my thinking an upbringing is when i read the gospel of John straight through and for once saw the life and reality of who Jesus, what he preached and the reality that I did not know much about the bible at all.

I began to read the entire bible and prayed for GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT is teach me the way unto salvation and that if I needed something other than what I had been taught for him to please show me.

He did show me as the scripture says in Epeshains 2: 8-9 , that we are saved by faith in Jesus alone, AND NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. This is not a contridiction to the words in the book of JAMES , that we are saved by faith and works. If the passages of the Bible are read in full context , one can easily see that faith , genuine born again faith in Jesus and his sacrifical death , burial and resurresction and ones accepatnce of him as their personal savior and Lord, will produce the good works. It is not the works that save , it is the saving work of Jesus that produce a new creation in Christ that produce the true christ centered good works.

Being a student of the word and understanding the bible and also understanding the History of the Catholic Church and the lack of biblical sincerity it was evident that Luther was 100% correct. That just shall live by faith.

Crosstalker :
 
In the parish where I was raised, nothing was said about the social justice teachings of the Catholic Church. Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton were regarded as aberrations. Our parish priest had favorite families, mostly well-to-do. The only financially feasible option was public school.

When I went to a Catholic College, in 1969-1972, the disconnect was obvious. This was not the Catholic Church I was raised in. The other students had mostly gone to Catholic schools, and had a much better foundation in Catholic teachings than I had. I was confused, and wandered away, although I did have some good philosophy professors.

Mormon culture permeated the town where I was raised, and to some extent, I absorbed some of those beliefs and characteristics. It would have been appropriate for some of the professors at the Catholic College I attended to have studied Mormon history literature, and teachings, as it was not far from where I was raised. However, they were more concerned about the needs of the majority of the students who came from large metropolitan areas than local students.

After college, I got involved in a nondenominational charismatic movement, but something was seriously wrong there. It appeared to have some of the same characteristics of Mormonism. I left, and returned to the Catholic Church. For many years, I grimly hung on.

Since finding out ten years ago that a lot of my problems were spiritual, resulting from the cultural issues surrounding Mormonism, I have finally found the Catholic Church I always knew existed.

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What does “purity of heart” have to do with one’s marital state?
A chaste purity of heart is not a question of being married or not. I strive for chastity in marriage at all times…I was accentuating the virtue of being a ‘eunuch’ for the sake of the Kingdom *- *this can foster a fervent purity of heart. Especially Holy are those who sacrifice marriage in the name of a greater good i.e. a vow of chastity (religious sense) or the religious life, ministerial priesthood.
 
Re: Cross Talker
Step forward Jimmy Akin - This Rock 1997 :tiphat:

One passage Fundamentalists often cite as a prooftext against the Catholic view of salvation is Ephesians 2:8–9: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.” Though this passage can stymie Catholics in conversation, they need not feel threatened by it. Even if we assume that Paul is speaking of “good works” when he says we have not been saved by works, this in no way conflicts with Catholic theology.

Notice that the passage speaks of salvation in the past tense—“you have been saved.” In Greek this is the perfect tense, which denotes a past, completed action. We know from the Bible that salvation also has present and future.aspects, so the kind of salvation Paul is discussing in Ephesians 2:8–9 is initial salvation. It is the kind which we received when we first came to God and were justified, not the kind of salvation we are now receiving (1 Pet. 1:8–9, Phil. 2:12) or the kind we one day will receive (Rom. 13:11, 1 Cor. 3:15, 5:5).

But the Catholic Church does not teach that we receive initial justification by good works. You do not have to do good works in order to come to God and be justified. The Council of Trent states: “And we are said to be justified by grace because nothing that precedes justification, whether faith or works, merits the grace of justification. For ‘if it is by grace, it is no longer by works; otherwise,’ as the apostle says, ‘grace is no more grace’ [Rom. 11:6]” (Decree on Justification 8).

So even if Paul were using “works” to mean “good works” in Ephesians 2:8–9, there is no conflict with Catholic theology. However, Paul probably does not mean “good works.” Normally when he says “works,” he means “works of the Law”—those done out of the Law of Moses. His point is to stress that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and not by obeying the Mosaic Law. Jews may not boast of having a privileged relationship with God because they keep the Mosaic Law and its requirement of circumcision (Rom. 2:6–11, 17–21, 25–29, 3:21–22, 27–30).

Paul discusses how Jew and Gentiles are united together in the body of Christ and mentions works in connection with boasting, before turning to the whole subject of circumcision and membership in Christ: “Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision . . . remember that you were at that time separated from Christ. . . . But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the Law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two . . . and might reconcile us both to God in one body. . . . So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God” (Eph. 2:11–19).

Paul is probably using “works” and “boasting” here as he does in Romans, of Jews boasting before Gentiles of having privilege with God due to their keeping the Mosaic Law. He says we are not saved in that manner, but by faith—meaning faith in Christ—so no one, either Jew or Gentile, can boast of having a more privileged position with God. We are all saved on the same basis—through faith in Christ and union in his body, the Church.

The apostle then turns our attention away from works of the Mosaic Law and toward the kind of works a Christian should be interested in—good works: “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them” (Eph. 2:10). The sense of what Paul is saying is: “God has raised up both of us—Jews and Gentiles—to sit in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, for we received initial salvation as a gift. We obtained it by faith in Christ (which itself is a gift from God), not by works of obedience to the Mosaic Law—so neither Jew or Gentile can boast over the other of having privilege with God. Instead, we Christians are the result of God’s work, for he created us anew in the body of Christ so that we might do good works—the kind of works we should be concerned about—for God intended ahead of time for us to do them” (paraphrase of Eph. 2:6–10).
 
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