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Thanks. It’s heavy lifting for us.I applaud your honesty GKC, but all jokes aside, I feel your pain.
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VARC
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Broad church Anglicans have a different view of what it means to be “catholic” (small c). They believe to be catholic means to practice or to hold firm to…
The Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, as “containing all things necessary to salvation,” and as being the rule and ultimate standard of faith.
The Apostles’ Creed, as the baptismal symbol; and the Nicene Creed, as the sufficient statement of the Christian faith.
The two sacraments ordained by Christ himself - Baptism and the Supper of the Lord - ministered with unfailing use of Christ’s words of institution, and of the elements ordained by him.
The historic episcopate, locally adapted in the methods of its administration to the varying needs of the nations and peoples called of God into the unity of his Church
What do Roman Catholics believe it means to be “catholic”?
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While I am not ***exactly ***sure where the Anglicans lost the Apostolic Commission, I think it has something to do with the consecration of Matthew Parker. I am a Roman Catholic attending a Continuing Anglican college [St. Andrews] and they are ***perfectly ***orthodox though a little hyper-critical of ‘Romanism’. I ***hate ***that word.
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It is usually pinned to Parker’s consecration as Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1559, which is a bottleneck in the Anglican episcopate. It’s a technical matter, involving sacramental form and intention, intertwined,as viewed in the logic of Apostolicae Curae, and it’s complex. Anglicans don’t buy it.
Tell the Continuers to cut that out.
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posterus traditus Anglicanus
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josie_L
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I believe it to be a description as well as a label of the Church that Christ established.
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Matariel
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Well, I consider the traditional, Continuing Anglicans just as legitimate as the Eastern Orthodox, and view them as sister churches. They have a venerable tradition of their own, and I would hope that, if ever reünified, a special provision would be made for them, just as for the Eastern Sui Juris churches within the Catholic Church. Just like the Orthodox, they are our buddies on a lot of moral issues. 
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Peter_J
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Fair enough. Perhaps I should have said “there are a lot of conservative Anglicans in the world, but (mostly) they’re conservative in an Evangelical Protestant way.”
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VARC
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Very vague since Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Nestorians all make that claim. Which would you exclude and why?
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trinitybeliever
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Spiritmeadow;
As you know, the Catholic Church is open to all who seek to be a part of her. So, we as Catholics hope that you will choose to be included, welcome!.
What do you think of the following? Which I sourced from another Catholic website. This pretty much sums up the way many Catholics feel about the qualifier of “Roman” being added to Catholic.
Q: When did the term “Roman Catholic Church” come into being?
A: It is not possible to give an exact year when the Catholic Church began to be called the “Roman Catholic Church,” it is possible to approximate it. The term originates as an insult created by Anglicans who wished to refer to themselves as Catholic. They thus coined the term “Roman Catholic” to distinguish those “other” Catholics and create a sense in which they could refer to themselves as Catholics (by attempting to deprive actual Catholics to the right to the term).
Different variants of the “Roman” insult appeared at different times. The earliest form of the insult was the noun “Romanist” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which appeared in England about 1515-1525. The next to develop was the adjective “Romish” (similar to something done or believed in the Catholic Church), which appeared around 1525-1535. Next came the noun “Roman Catholic” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which was coined approximately 1595-1605. Shortly thereafter came the verb “to Romanize” (to make someone a Catholic or to become a Catholic), which appeared around 1600-10. Then between 1665 and 1675 we got the noun “Romanism” (the system of Catholic beliefs and practices), and finally we got a late-comer term about 1815-1825-the noun “Roman Catholicism,” which is a synonym for the earlier “Romanism.”
A similar complex of insults arose around the term “pope.” About 1515-25 the Anglicans coined the term “papist” and later its derivative “papism.” A quick follow-up, in 1520-1530, was the adjective “popish.” Next came “popery” (1525-1535), and then “papistry” (1540-1550), with its later derivatives, “papistical” and “papistic.” (Source: Random House Webster’s College Dictionary, 1995 ed.)
This complex of insults is revealing as it shows the depths of animosity English Protestants had toward the Church. No other religious body (perhaps no other group at all-even national or racial ones) has such a complex of insults woven into the English language as does the Catholic Church. Even today many Protestants who have no idea what the origin of the term is cannot bring themselves to say “Catholic” without qualifying it or replacing it with a Roman insult.
Source: Nazareth Resource Library
Your objection to the use of the word “Priestess” as offfensive is understandable. Will you stop using words that are bound to offend many Catholics on CAF?
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God Bless.
As you know, the Catholic Church is open to all who seek to be a part of her. So, we as Catholics hope that you will choose to be included, welcome!.
What do you think of the following? Which I sourced from another Catholic website. This pretty much sums up the way many Catholics feel about the qualifier of “Roman” being added to Catholic.
Q: When did the term “Roman Catholic Church” come into being?
A: It is not possible to give an exact year when the Catholic Church began to be called the “Roman Catholic Church,” it is possible to approximate it. The term originates as an insult created by Anglicans who wished to refer to themselves as Catholic. They thus coined the term “Roman Catholic” to distinguish those “other” Catholics and create a sense in which they could refer to themselves as Catholics (by attempting to deprive actual Catholics to the right to the term).
Different variants of the “Roman” insult appeared at different times. The earliest form of the insult was the noun “Romanist” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which appeared in England about 1515-1525. The next to develop was the adjective “Romish” (similar to something done or believed in the Catholic Church), which appeared around 1525-1535. Next came the noun “Roman Catholic” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which was coined approximately 1595-1605. Shortly thereafter came the verb “to Romanize” (to make someone a Catholic or to become a Catholic), which appeared around 1600-10. Then between 1665 and 1675 we got the noun “Romanism” (the system of Catholic beliefs and practices), and finally we got a late-comer term about 1815-1825-the noun “Roman Catholicism,” which is a synonym for the earlier “Romanism.”
A similar complex of insults arose around the term “pope.” About 1515-25 the Anglicans coined the term “papist” and later its derivative “papism.” A quick follow-up, in 1520-1530, was the adjective “popish.” Next came “popery” (1525-1535), and then “papistry” (1540-1550), with its later derivatives, “papistical” and “papistic.” (Source: Random House Webster’s College Dictionary, 1995 ed.)
This complex of insults is revealing as it shows the depths of animosity English Protestants had toward the Church. No other religious body (perhaps no other group at all-even national or racial ones) has such a complex of insults woven into the English language as does the Catholic Church. Even today many Protestants who have no idea what the origin of the term is cannot bring themselves to say “Catholic” without qualifying it or replacing it with a Roman insult.
Source: Nazareth Resource Library
Your objection to the use of the word “Priestess” as offfensive is understandable. Will you stop using words that are bound to offend many Catholics on CAF?
?God Bless.
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VARC
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Your objection to the use of the word “Priestess” as offfensive is understandable. Will you stop using words that are bound to offend many Catholics on CAF?
?God Bless.
I do not use the term “Roman Catholic” to offend anyone. Two local parishes in my area have the title on the signs in front of their buildings. I use the term for two reasons
- To distinguish christians who a in sacramental union with Rome from those who aren’t
- To emphasize that there are other catholic christians other than those under papal authority.
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charela
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newadvent.org/cathen/01491a.htm
Please read a full history at this link of why the Catholic church declared Anglican priesthood invalid, and thus our Anglican brothers and sisters separated. Politics should never override theology.
Please read a full history at this link of why the Catholic church declared Anglican priesthood invalid, and thus our Anglican brothers and sisters separated. Politics should never override theology.
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josie_L
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Well, which has been known as Catholic throughout its history and bears a resemblance to the early Church?
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Peter_J
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Sorry if I’m a little behind the times … but why would we be offended at being called “Roman Catholic”?Your objection to the use of the word “Priestess” as offfensive is understandable. Will you stop using words that are bound to offend many Catholics on CAF?
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I do not use the term “Roman Catholic” to offend anyone. Two local parishes in my area have the title on the signs in front of their buildings. I use the term for two reasons
And yes I do consider Roman Catholics as catholic christians.
- To distinguish christians who a in sacramental union with Rome from those who aren’t
- To emphasize that there are other catholic christians other than those under papal authority.
I think this is a case of political correctness run amok.
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VARC
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The Anglicans, the Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, the Oriental Orthodox, and the Nestorians have identified themselves as catholic throughout there histories and all bear some resemblance to the early church.
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VARC
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see post 4904448 by trinity believerSorry if I’m a little behind the times … but why would we be offended at being called “Roman Catholic”?
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josie_L
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When did the Anglican church come into being?
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Peter_J
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So noted.
Should we enacted disciplinary measures against the Anglican - Roman Catholic International Commission (ARCIC) immediately? Or should we first give them 60 days to change their name, and then enact disciplinary measures if they fail to comply?
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