Why do liberals act like they can't live without contraception and abortions?

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Not to start up the firestorm again, but not all liberals support contraception and abortion (though certainly it is probably 90% anymore, though I hope it is less). Also, not all conservatives are pro lifers. There are still pro choice conservatives, especially if you count libertarians as conservatives.
 
Anyone who feels like they can’t live without contraception or abortion simply can’t control themselves.
The question could be turned another way. Why do Christians act as if they MUST use birth control, have an abortion or marry a gay person because civil law allows it?
I understand what you are saying, except for the abortion aspect. Abortion is murder. That’s like saying we should just ignore murder because we aren’t being forced to murder.
 
And so very charitable…

Perhaps they feel that they and their MD are the best people to make their medical decisions and not the government. After all, isn’t that the argument against Obamacare? That we should be allowed to make our own decisions without the government telling us what to do?

Whether abortion and birth control are legal or not changes nothing about the Church position and what a committed follower of Jesus must do. Same with gay marriage-if it was made legal tomorrow I still could not run out and find a partner to marry. I’ve made a commitment to God and my Church that is bigger than anything else.

The question could be turned another way. Why do Christians act as if they MUST use birth control, have an abortion or marry a gay person because civil law allows it?
Some conservatives don’t make that connection between governmental non-intervention in the economic domain and governmental non-intervention in the private domain. Perhaps they do when it comes to selling and drinking large-sized sodas, but not when it comes to the most personal moral and religious values of a woman, her family, and her faith, in consultation with her doctor. Rather, they feel their own moral ideology must be legislated and applied to everyone since it trumps other religious or secular moral ideologies.
 
Liberals have a hard time with the concept of personal responsibility and this extends far past the above issues.🤷
Let’s see. I decided to be sexually active but recognized that I was in college and unable to support a child. So I called a clinic, got a PAP, breast exam, and general physical. Then went over my options, took a few days to do independent research and think it over, made a decision, went back and got a prescription, which I refill every three months and remember to take every night.

During this time I also had a long discussion about monogamy and where our relationship was headed with my then boyfriend, now fiance.

This all seems pretty responsible to me.

And what is with this conservatives don’t have sex attitude? Conservatives have just as much sex and just as many partners as liberals, and they use just as many condoms and birth control pills.
 
The answer is quite simple. All you have to do is look at European and
American society before “THE PILL”. Without contreception and abortion on demand, liberals would have to give up indiscriminate sexual intercours whenever they want it because women would be too afraid of getting pregnant.
In addition, considering who gets most abortions in the US, without abortion on demand, the caucasian population in the US would be in the minority within 25 years. The tacit fact that liberals don’t talk about and couldn’t abide if it happened.
You really don’t think that conservatives have casual sex and contracept?

And you really think that the only people who contracept are having “indiscriminate sexual intercourse”? No married or otherwise committed, monogamous couples use birth control?
 
You really don’t think that conservatives have casual sex and contracept?

And you really think that the only people who contracept are having “indiscriminate sexual intercourse”? No married or otherwise committed, monogamous couples use birth control?
My wife is conservative, has never used contraception, and was a virgin when we got married. That destroys the liberal claim that all women use contraception and can’t live without abortions.
 
All liberals don’t feel that way anymore than all conservatives believe the opposite.

Was this a genuine question, or an opportunity to share some Christian charity? It’s just a rhetorical question asked as food for thought…
 
Some conservatives don’t make that connection between governmental non-intervention in the economic domain and governmental non-intervention in the private domain. Perhaps they do when it comes to selling and drinking large-sized sodas, but not when it comes to the most personal moral and religious values of a woman, her family, and her faith, in consultation with her doctor. Rather, they feel their own moral ideology must be legislated and applied to everyone since it trumps other religious or secular moral ideologies.
I see abortion as murder. Murder is illegal. If I am against you being murdered, how can I not be against an unborn child being murdered and how can I be against legislation that would make either one of your murders illegal?
 
My wife is conservative, has never used contraception, and was a virgin when we got married. That destroys the liberal claim that all women use contraception and can’t live without abortions.
Yeah, but I didn’t make that claim. And what you wrote didn’t actually address what I said…
 
I decided to be sexually active but recognized that I was in college and unable to support a child.
You decided, so why should we have to foot the bill for your decision. If I decide to drive my car without seat belts, should I expect for you to foot the bill if I get seriously injured or die because of my choice?
 
You decided, so why should we have to foot the bill for your decision. If I decide to drive my car without seat belts, should I expect for you to foot the bill if I get seriously injured or die because of my choice?
You don’t, because I’m on birth control. If I wasn’t on bc I’d probably have an abortion, and if that wasn’t legal I’d give the kid up, and then you would be footing the bill for yet another child in the system.
 
You don’t, because I’m on birth control. If I wasn’t on bc I’d probably have an abortion, and if that wasn’t legal I’d give the kid up, and then you would be footing the bill for yet another child in the system.
Most of the ones who get abortions use contraception. That’s why the ones who use contraception are the same ones that insist that they can’t go without abortions.
 
You don’t, because I’m on birth control. If I wasn’t on bc I’d probably have an abortion, and if that wasn’t legal I’d give the kid up, and then you would be footing the bill for yet another child in the system.
If a couple adopted your hypothetical child, wouldn’t they foot the bill?
 
Why not what? We have a very, very broken adoption system. There are plenty of kids who need homes, plenty of families that want to give them homes, but because of the bureaucracy it takes years and tens of thousands of dollars, sometimes more, to adopt. Sadly, many times it is just cheaper and faster to adopt internationally.
 
Liberals see these as issues of religious liberty and personal freedom. Not all liberals agree with the decisions that others make, but they defend their right to make them.
 
Liberals see these as issues of religious liberty and personal freedom. Not all liberals agree with the decisions that others make, but they defend their right to make them.
So, if your mom decided to kill you, we should defend her right to make that choice.
 
You decided, so why should we have to foot the bill for your decision. If I decide to drive my car without seat belts, should I expect for you to foot the bill if I get seriously injured or die because of my choice?
But it’s okay to foot the bill for an unwed pregnant teenager/woman’s pregnancy? See, some people have a problem paying for ‘other people’s’ contraception. Others have a problem paying for other people’s children. Still others have a problem “paying for other people’s healthcare”. Still others have a problem paying for anything and expecting others to pay. There’s always going to be an issue with where the money in the pot is going. That’s part of living in a community full of people with different values and beliefs. 🤷
 
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