Why do liberals like Islam when Islamic Sharia law condemns homosexuals to death?

[MerryMay]

I should add, by the same token, that obviously babies being burned to death in Africa is worse than gays not being allowed to marry here, but liberals are way more likely to fight for gay rights than to fight for Africa’s witch children. It’s not just conservatives who pay more attention to sexual and marriage issues at home than truly horrific violence abroad.

Again, it’s a matter of proximity. You care most about what’s closer to you and affects you society directly. You also are far more likely to be able to significantly participate in social change at home.

I think killing homosexuals under Sharia law is far more terrible than preventing gay marriage, but what’s the likelihood that I can have any impact on stopping Sharia law in Afghanistan? Not very much. However, when I volunteer and give money to gay rights causes here in the States, there’s a good chance I actually can make a difference. So that’s where I focus my efforts.

I guarantee you if Muslims started becoming a significant vocal group, like if they were actually trying to get Sharia law enacted here, you’d see a lot more liberals getting up in arms about the dangers of Islam.

Just as I’m sure if religious officials started burning babies alive in America as well as Africa, the vast majority of conservatives would be far more concerned with that than gay marriage.

 

[Publisher]

I should add, by the same token, that obviously babies being burned to death in Africa is worse than gays not being allowed to marry here, but liberals are way more likely to fight for gay rights than to fight for Africa’s witch children. It’s not just conservatives who pay more attention to sexual and marriage issues at home than truly horrific violence abroad.

Again, it’s a matter of proximity. You care most about what’s closer to you and affects you society directly. You also are far more likely to be able to significantly participate in social change at home.

I think killing homosexuals under Sharia law is far more terrible than preventing gay marriage, but what’s the likelihood that I can have any impact on stopping Sharia law in Afghanistan? Not very much. However, when I volunteer and give money to gay rights causes here in the States, there’s a good chance I actually can make a difference. So that’s where I focus my efforts.

I guarantee you if Muslims started becoming a significant vocal group, like if they were actually trying to get Sharia law enacted here, you’d see a lot more liberals getting up in arms about the dangers of Islam.

Just as I’m sure if religious officials started burning babies alive in America as well as Africa, the vast majority of conservatives would be far more concerned with that than gay marriage.

Isn’t it “Christians” who are calling for the death of these children? Maybe “Christians” should “clean their houses”?

 

[MerryMay]

Me too, I love Muslims just like anyone else, but I oppose religious laws that promote violence, hatred and discrimination wherever and whatever it is.
Liberals may take a side with Muslims as people because lot’s of them can be good, but I never saw a liberal taking a side with Sharia laws.

this is a really important point. Sharia law doesn’t represent all Muslims, just like anti-gay advocacy does not represent all Christians, as I already said, where I lived in the benelux region of Europe, I never met a single Christian who *wasn’t *in favor of gay marriage.

So it is possible to defend and accept Muslims while being completely disdainful of the fundamentalists who promote intolerance and violence, just like it’s possible to defend and accept moderate Christians while fighting against those Christians who promote intolerance and violence.

 

[User124]

this is a really important point. Sharia law doesn’t represent all Muslims, just like anti-gay advocacy does not represent all Christians, as I already said, where I lived in the benelux region of Europe, I never met a single Christian who *wasn’t *in favor of gay marriage.

So it is possible to defend and accept Muslims while being completely disdainful of the fundamentalists who promote intolerance and violence, just like it’s possible to defend and accept moderate Christians while fighting against those Christians who promote intolerance and violence.

Liberals in Islamic societies attack Sharia laws more than anything. Liberalism and Secularism contradict with Islam but there is many moderate Muslims who belong to that religion as a part of identity more than faith or fanaticism.

 

[JHow]

I’m sort of surprised no one has mentioned the confluence of opinion between liberals and Muslims on the subject of Israel.

 

[User124]

I’m sort of surprised no one has mentioned the confluence of opinion between liberals and Muslims on the subject of Israel.

Most Muslims oppose Israel mostly for religious reasons, the non religious Liberals who oppose Israel do that mostly for ethical reasons, I think.

 

[Pythons]

I believe the operative term for liberals who like Sharia law would be “useful idiots”…
…It’s either that or they simply hate Christianity SO MUCH that they are willing to side with Sharia.

About every state, when put to a vote, declined homosexual marriage ( even CA ) so that means many people would prefer it stay in the closet…
…Perhaps Liberals who praise Sharia law simply would like to use Sharia to do what “the people” couldn’t.

 

[CMatt25]

Liberals call us Catholics bigots for saying we believe that marriage should be as it was in the beginning, Adam and Eve, because Jesus (God in the flesh) told us this is the way it should be. But these same liberals give a free pass to Islam whose Sharia law condemns homosexuals to death. And this isn’t just a belief in Islam, it’s a regular occurrence to see homosexuals sentenced to death and executed for being homosexual in Islamic nations with Sharia law. Yet, liberals bend over backwards to defend Islam while calling us Catholics the bigots. It doesn’t make any sense.

I’m a liberal. I would be nothing else. But I don’t like Islam. By that I mean I’d never consider converting to the faith. I like my Muslim neighbors and friends though. In the aftermath of 911, I did defend them, if by defend you mean in the sense that I did not shun them and other Muslims who had nothing to do with 911. Later they shared with me how thankful they always had been for my kindness during that period when so many others did shun them.
But never would I “bend over backwards to defend” their faith’s views in regard to homosexuality. I think maybe it doesn’t make sense to you because you are confusing liking a faith with liking some of the people of that faith. I have Catholic friends, neighbors and many Catholic family members. And I like some of them too.

 

[benjohnson]

In my opinion, liberals who love Islam fall into two categories.

I) Those who ignorantly love Islam as a way of showing their distaste for western civilization.
II) Those who sincerely enjoy a cacophony of cultures.

Sadly, my experience has lead me to thing the fist group is more numerous.

 

[Seeker1961]

The strongest liberals I know are atheists and they don’t like ANY religion.

 

[Biblepoe]

I am a liberal, and I definitely do not like Islam.

 

[IbnFiktur]

To the OP: Please define what you think “Sharia Law” actually is. For instance, where can I view a copy of “Sharia Law?” And where in that book does it condemn homosexuals to death?

 

[Publisher]

I’m a liberal. I would be nothing else. But I don’t like Islam. By that I mean I’d never consider converting to the faith. I like my Muslim neighbors and friends though. In the aftermath of 911, I did defend them, if by defend you mean in the sense that I did not shun them and other Muslims who had nothing to do with 911. Later they shared with me how thankful they always had been for my kindness during that period when so many others did shun them.

But never would I “bend over backwards to defend” their faith’s views in regard to homosexuality. I think maybe it doesn’t make sense to you because you are confusing liking a faith with liking some of the people of that faith. I have Catholic friends, neighbors and many Catholic family members. And I like some of them too.

Friend, you echo some of my thoughts. I thoroughly enjoy studying Islam and reading the Holy Qur’an…especially though the writings of moderate Muslims…and I have enjoyed the interfaith discussion with Muslims. Those Muslims I have met are kind and compassionate people who often are confused and dumbfounded that so many “Christians” speak angry and hateful words to them…I am thankful I live in a nation of diversity where I am welcomed at the local Islamic Center for lectures on Islamic faith and practice.

I would never embrace Islam as my chosen faith…neither would I embrace Catholicism…but that doesn’t mean I don’t find value in seeking to understand the faith of both people.

 

[IbnFiktur]

to my Quaker friend above. Well put, brother.

To the OP: Please define what you think “Sharia Law” actually is. For instance, where can I view a copy of “Sharia Law?” And where in that book does it condemn homosexuals to death?

To answer my own rhetorical question…

There is no law code entitled “Sharia Law.” It simply means law based on Islamic theology. There are thus as many “Sharia Laws” as there are Islamic theological opinions, and, I assure you, there are and have been thousands throughout history.

When CNN says that a certain country or group believes in practicing “Sharia Law,” they actually mean that said country or group believes in practicing “Islamic law as interpreted by such-and-such person or sect.”

Naturally, different people and sects are going to have different opinions on what “Sharia Law” means, ranging from modernist to progressive to moderate to fundamentalist to extremist.

My point here is that you should not be generalizing about Muslims and Islam. You shouldn’t generalize about “liberals” either, but that’s another matter.

 

[benjammin]

While I agree that liberals can be too multicultural (i see nothing wrong with other cultures, no culture is superior, but there are some aspects of certain cultures that should be ended) I think the OP is generalizing. Not all liberals like Islam and sharia law. Thats like saying all conservatives are hardcore rightwing ethnocentric christians. It’s wrong to make such accusations of large groups. I do agree though that for some liberals, this new type of cultural relativism will bite them in the butt when they are prohibited their freedom under sharia law

 

[CMatt25]

The strongest liberals I know are atheists and they don’t like ANY religion.

Wow maybe I’m not as strong a liberal as my reputation is here. That would be news to the folks on the World News forum.

 

[Rhubarb]

to my Quaker friend above. Well put, brother.

To answer my own rhetorical question…

There is no law code entitled “Sharia Law.” It simply means law based on Islamic theology. There are thus as many “Sharia Laws” as there are Islamic theological opinions, and, I assure you, there are and have been thousands throughout history.

When CNN says that a certain country or group believes in practicing “Sharia Law,” they actually mean that said country or group believes in practicing “Islamic law as interpreted by such-and-such person or sect.”

Naturally, different people and sects are going to have different opinions on what “Sharia Law” means, ranging from modernist to progressive to moderate to fundamentalist to extremist.

My point here is that you should not be generalizing about Muslims and Islam. You shouldn’t generalize about “liberals” either, but that’s another matter.

+1

 

[Rhubarb]

to my Quaker friend above. Well put, brother.

To answer my own rhetorical question…

There is no law code entitled “Sharia Law.” It simply means law based on Islamic theology. There are thus as many “Sharia Laws” as there are Islamic theological opinions, and, I assure you, there are and have been thousands throughout history.

When CNN says that a certain country or group believes in practicing “Sharia Law,” they actually mean that said country or group believes in practicing “Islamic law as interpreted by such-and-such person or sect.”

Naturally, different people and sects are going to have different opinions on what “Sharia Law” means, ranging from modernist to progressive to moderate to fundamentalist to extremist.

My point here is that you should not be generalizing about Muslims and Islam. You shouldn’t generalize about “liberals” either, but that’s another matter.

+1

 

[mercytruth]

Liberals call us Catholics bigots for saying we believe that marriage should be as it was in the beginning, Adam and Eve, because Jesus (God in the flesh) told us this is the way it should be. But these same liberals give a free pass to Islam whose Sharia law condemns homosexuals to death. And this isn’t just a belief in Islam, it’s a regular occurrence to see homosexuals sentenced to death and executed for being homosexual in Islamic nations with Sharia law. Yet, liberals bend over backwards to defend Islam while calling us Catholics the bigots. It doesn’t make any sense.

One should be careful with generalizations. There are Log Cabin Republicans who support gay civil unions. There are fundamentalist Christians who support the fundamentalist morality of non-violent Muslims. There are liberal secularists who support liberal social ideas, but do support U.S. military interventionist policies in oil-producing Muslim nations. The world out there is not black and white.

We need to chill out a bit, turn off the talking heads, and heed the words of Jesus Christ.

God’s peace

Micah

 

[Publisher]

Wow maybe I’m not as strong a liberal as my reputation is here. That would be news to the folks on the World News forum.

Me either…I am a “dyed in the wool liberal”…but…maybe not as “liberal” as I think since I don’t find Muslims or Islam disgusting.